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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2022 2:01:22 GMT
@hardcastle On Quora, you say your “family has bred hunting dogs for generations”. What breeds specifically are they?
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Post by Hardcastle on Oct 26, 2022 10:53:02 GMT
Basically Bull Arabs. Though it's quite complicated, and strictly speaking it's not accurate to call them bull arabs.
My dad and his 3 brothers were born in the late 50s and grew up on a farm where they'd hunt pigs with cattle dogs (blue heeler) and bully cattle dogs (ebt x blue heeler), like their dad and his dad and etc had been doing since who knows when. They would also have the odd greyhound or staghound kicking around and the odd collie or terrier. But mostly it was the same dogs used to round up cattle that were also used to "round up" feral pigs. They'd just do both jobs basically at the same time on any given day. Back then it was mostly just about removing the pesky pigs, and maybe they'd eat them as well if they looked good or make dog food out of them. In the 70s my uncle Greg was a young man of about 17-18 (people were grown men earlier back then) and he got a little more serious about hunting pigs. Now with the purpose of selling the carcasses at "chillers" around the state. The price for boar meat at that time was very high and there was an explosion of pig dogging for profit in the 70s. Lots of different people started their own line, and my uncle Greg was one of them. Mick Hodgens, the guy who created the bull arab was another one of them. This is also when Rod Barker started his "bullzons", when Cecil Tyice started "dane x bms" (later carried on by O'Halloran), when Doug Mummery started "Ebt x mastiffs", when Butters (don't know first name) started his mish-mash line of I dunno whats. Bully Greys and bullstags started then also (Not sure if Burr Lee started in the 70s though). Not entirely sure but Bloom brothers may have started then too. Another one was a family friend named "Cole", who ended up being my grandmas second husband. He had his own line. Thousands of people did.
My uncle Greg's line were a bit like bull arabs but leaning a bit more to bully greys. They weren't very big, maybe 30-35 kgs (65 - 80 lbs) and just looked like leggy ebts, they were usually mostly white and even often had prick ears and maybe an eye patch or something. My Dad and his brothers would frequently go pig hunting with Greg and his dogs out west, who would also hunt scrub bulls and roos and basically anything. Even Brumbies (feral horse). He didn't really "break" them to be pig focussed, and in fact was a bit of an outlaw/petty crim kind of guy at the time. There's even rumours of him fighting them in casual amateur little pissing contest matchups when other guys would argue their dogs were better or whatever. This was apparently pretty common around the "chiller culture" of the 70s. Another uncle of mine, his brother, is the one who told me he witnessed that first hand and also said one time he let one of his dogs attack one of his racing greyhounds and that uncle is still pissed off about it (yes that uncle bred racing greyhounds). Uncle Greg's version is that Kent (the uncle who bred greyhounds) was bragging his greyhounds could kill a pig dog and Greg wanted shut him up. Who knows... For about 20 years uncle greg bred his line and hunted pigs for the chillers. In 1989 I was 6 and wanted a puppy and my dad said "I'll take care of it" and he went and got me a pig dog. Not one of my uncles, as we actually lived far away from him at that time. He just got some mongrel pig dog pup from close by, but did so because he figured if we have to have a dog it might as well be a useful pig dog.
Anyway, in 1995 something happened to the pig meat prices and the chillers all largely shut down and lots of people moved away from pig dogging. My uncle Greg was one of them. He went and became a builder and his line actually died out. Meanwhile, I had this maniac pig dog that was tough as hell and it was kind of legendary among my friends and family for being like the hannibal lecter of dogs. One of my cousins, Dean, was especially impressed and interested and he ended up buying his own pig dogs and taking up pig hunting in the late 90s when he was a teenager. Dean actually lived with my Grandma because his mother was braindamaged. And that's where "Cole" comes in. My grand-dad had moved on to greener pastures, lived at the coast with a new wife and no longer lived the country life. Cole actually became my Grandma's new "boyfriend", and basically raised Dean as a son. He didn't live with him, he lived on like a massive ranch way out in the outback where he still bred his line of pig dogs. They were also like bull arabs. His were very very very similar to bull arabs (ebt/pointer/grey), but strictly speaking aren't because they aren't related to Mick Hodgens' bull arabs, they probably pre-date bull arabs, but they are basically the same animal. When Cole died he actually tried to leave Dean most of his money (later contested by his real kids who got most of it back), but asked Dean to continue his pig dog line since he liked hunting pigs and was still a country boy, unlike his real kids. Dean has been doing that ever since, and my "bull arab" was bred by Dean and is from that line, so it's technically not a "bull arab", BUT also it gets complicated because Dean has freely introduced actual bull arabs into his line over the last 20 years. That said he has also introduced bull stag. And bullwolfhound actually (Not diesel, which was Dean's dog, but a different one named "Woofy"). My dog very much looks like a bull arab and basically is, so I just say it is a bull arab.
But yeah my family's original 70s line died out in 1995, but "we" "adopted" a different "70s line" in the early 00s. Separate to all this, my Great Grandfather, my Grandmother(Cole's Girlfriend)'s father, was an Englishman who settled in Australia after serving in world war 1 as a light horsemen. He was given a HUUUUGE chunk of outback land, hundreds of thousands of acres (it takes nearly an hour to drive from the house to the front gate and mailbox), and on that land bred sheep, cattle and horses. And dogs. These are like cattle dogs and also were part time hog hunting cattle dogs. MY grandma's sister, despite being 80 something, STILL lives on that huge farm with the original line of horses and cattle dogs and cattle and etc. Her son, my dad's cousin, has the neighbouring property and he also breeds pig dogs and has since the 70s, which he uses to hunt over both expansive properties. I actually don't know much about them but they have a bull-staggy sort of look. Then I could go on and list lots of other relatives and friends breeding pig dogs and/or embroiled in the history of pig dogs. It's just the part of Australia where I'm from, that's what it's like, it's all about pig dogs and cattle dogs. So yeah it's "in my blood" so to speak.
I've merely owned some over the years. I personally did one breeding once (bull arab x ddb/apbt) but it was stupid and luckily all the offspring got desexed. I do intend to breed my current "Cole-line" female because she is very very legit and NEARLY exactly what I want for the rest of my life dog-wise (especially in temperament, instincts and drives, which is the difficult to find "gold dust" stuff- I wouldn't mind steering the line towards being taller and faster, but that's easy). I'm trying to move to my own farm asap where I can hunt with my dogs more regularly and keep more dogs to actually sustain a line. My cousin Dean currently has some unrelated dogs (as well as the related ones), one in particular is a tall bully stag which would be ideal for a mate for my dog IMO. So I'm hoping that will be the foundation and I will go from there. I actually want to hunt boars and ALSO red deer.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2022 18:34:20 GMT
Basically Bull Arabs. Though it's quite complicated, and strictly speaking it's not accurate to call them bull arabs. My dad and his 3 brothers were born in the late 50s and grew up on a farm where they'd hunt pigs with cattle dogs (blue heeler) and bully cattle dogs (ebt x blue heeler), like their dad and his dad and etc had been doing since who knows when. They would also have the odd greyhound or staghound kicking around and the odd collie or terrier. But mostly it was the same dogs used to round up cattle that were also used to "round up" feral pigs. They'd just do both jobs basically at the same time on any given day. Back then it was mostly just about removing the pesky pigs, and maybe they'd eat them as well if they looked good or make dog food out of them. In the 70s my uncle Greg was a young man of about 17-18 (people were grown men earlier back then) and he got a little more serious about hunting pigs. Now with the purpose of selling the carcasses at "chillers" around the state. The price for boar meat at that time was very high and there was an explosion of pig dogging for profit in the 70s. Lots of different people started their own line, and my uncle Greg was one of them. Mick Hodgens, the guy who created the bull arab was another one of them. This is also when Rod Barker started his "bullzons", when Cecil Tyice started "dane x bms" (later carried on by O'Halloran), when Doug Mummery started "Ebt x mastiffs", when Butters (don't know first name) started his mish-mash line of I dunno whats. Bully Greys and bullstags started then also (Not sure if Burr Lee started in the 70s though). Not entirely sure but Bloom brothers may have started then too. Another one was a family friend named "Cole", who ended up being my grandmas second husband. He had his own line. Thousands of people did. My uncle Greg's line were a bit like bull arabs but leaning a bit more to bully greys. They weren't very big, maybe 30-35 kgs (65 - 80 lbs) and just looked like leggy ebts, they were usually mostly white and even often had prick ears and maybe an eye patch or something. My Dad and his brothers would frequently go pig hunting with Greg and his dogs out west, who would also hunt scrub bulls and roos and basically anything. Even Brumbies (feral horse). He didn't really "break" them to be pig focussed, and in fact was a bit of an outlaw/petty crim kind of guy at the time. There's even rumours of him fighting them in casual amateur little pissing contest matchups when other guys would argue their dogs were better or whatever. This was apparently pretty common around the "chiller culture" of the 70s. Another uncle of mine, his brother, is the one who told me he witnessed that first hand and also said one time he let one of his dogs attack one of his racing greyhounds and that uncle is still pissed off about it (yes that uncle bred racing greyhounds). Uncle Greg's version is that Kent (the uncle who bred greyhounds) was bragging his greyhounds could kill a pig dog and Greg wanted shut him up. Who knows... For about 20 years uncle greg bred his line and hunted pigs for the chillers. In 1989 I was 6 and wanted a puppy and my dad said "I'll take care of it" and he went and got me a pig dog. Not one of my uncles, as we actually lived far away from him at that time. He just got some mongrel pig dog pup from close by, but did so because he figured if we have to have a dog it might as well be a useful pig dog. Anyway, in 1995 something happened to the pig meat prices and the chillers all largely shut down and lots of people moved away from pig dogging. My uncle Greg was one of them. He went and became a builder and his line actually died out. Meanwhile, I had this maniac pig dog that was tough as hell and it was kind of legendary among my friends and family for being like the hannibal lecter of dogs. One of my cousins, Dean, was especially impressed and interested and he ended up buying his own pig dogs and taking up pig hunting in the late 90s when he was a teenager. Dean actually lived with my Grandma because his mother was braindamaged. And that's where "Cole" comes in. My grand-dad had moved on to greener pastures, lived at the coast with a new wife and no longer lived the country life. Cole actually became my Grandma's new "boyfriend", and basically raised Dean as a son. He didn't live with him, he lived on like a massive ranch way out in the outback where he still bred his line of pig dogs. They were also like bull arabs. His were very very very similar to bull arabs (ebt/pointer/grey), but strictly speaking aren't because they aren't related to Mick Hodgens' bull arabs, they probably pre-date bull arabs, but they are basically the same animal. When Cole died he actually tried to leave Dean most of his money (later contested by his real kids who got most of it back), but asked Dean to continue his pig dog line since he liked hunting pigs and was still a country boy, unlike his real kids. Dean has been doing that ever since, and my "bull arab" was bred by Dean and is from that line, so it's technically not a "bull arab", BUT also it gets complicated because Dean has freely introduced actual bull arabs into his line over the last 20 years. That said he has also introduced bull stag. And bullwolfhound actually (Not diesel, which was Dean's dog, but a different one named "Woofy"). My dog very much looks like a bull arab and basically is, so I just say it is a bull arab. But yeah my family's original 70s line died out in 1995, but "we" "adopted" a different "70s line" in the early 00s. Separate to all this, my Great Grandfather, my Grandmother(Cole's Girlfriend)'s father, was an Englishman who settled in Australia after serving in world war 1 as a light horsemen. He was given a HUUUUGE chunk of outback land, hundreds of thousands of acres (it takes nearly an hour to drive from the house to the front gate and mailbox), and on that land bred sheep, cattle and horses. And dogs. These are like cattle dogs and also were part time hog hunting cattle dogs. MY grandma's sister, despite being 80 something, STILL lives on that huge farm with the original line of horses and cattle dogs and cattle and etc. Her son, my dad's cousin, has the neighbouring property and he also breeds pig dogs and has since the 70s, which he uses to hunt over both expansive properties. I actually don't know much about them but they have a bull-staggy sort of look. Then I could go on and list lots of other relatives and friends breeding pig dogs and/or embroiled in the history of pig dogs. It's just the part of Australia where I'm from, that's what it's like, it's all about pig dogs and cattle dogs. So yeah it's "in my blood" so to speak. I've merely owned some over the years. I personally did one breeding once (bull arab x ddb/apbt) but it was stupid and luckily all the offspring got desexed. I do intend to breed my current "Cole-line" female because she is very very legit and NEARLY exactly what I want for the rest of my life dog-wise (especially in temperament, instincts and drives, which is the difficult to find "gold dust" stuff- I wouldn't mind steering the line towards being taller and faster, but that's easy). I'm trying to move to my own farm asap where I can hunt with my dogs more regularly and keep more dogs to actually sustain a line. My cousin Dean currently has some unrelated dogs (as well as the related ones), one in particular is a tall bully stag which would be ideal for a mate for my dog IMO. So I'm hoping that will be the foundation and I will go from there. I actually want to hunt boars and ALSO red deer. '' Another uncle of mine, his brother, is the one who told me he witnessed that first hand and also said one time he let one of his dogs attack one of his racing greyhounds and that uncle is still pissed off about it (yes that uncle bred racing greyhounds). Uncle Greg's version is that Kent (the uncle who bred greyhounds) was bragging his greyhounds could kill a pig dog and Greg wanted shut him up. Who knows...'' Wow, Australian hunters are stupid. Lmao.
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Post by Hardcastle on Oct 26, 2022 18:58:48 GMT
This side of my family are total hillbilly retards. My cousin who bred my dog I genuinely thought was actually a retard my whole life, and then later on I learned no he's just a dumb hick who looks funny. I thought he maybe had full blown down's syndrome. When I would have him over and show him my dog and stuff I thought I was like doing a charitable deed for a special guy.
Doesn't matter, it actually helps to make better dogs. Its like if dogs had to survive living with chimps, they'd be fucking great.
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Post by lincoln on Nov 7, 2022 17:52:00 GMT
Basically Bull Arabs. Though it's quite complicated, and strictly speaking it's not accurate to call them bull arabs. My dad and his 3 brothers were born in the late 50s and grew up on a farm where they'd hunt pigs with cattle dogs (blue heeler) and bully cattle dogs (ebt x blue heeler), like their dad and his dad and etc had been doing since who knows when. They would also have the odd greyhound or staghound kicking around and the odd collie or terrier. But mostly it was the same dogs used to round up cattle that were also used to "round up" feral pigs. They'd just do both jobs basically at the same time on any given day. Back then it was mostly just about removing the pesky pigs, and maybe they'd eat them as well if they looked good or make dog food out of them. In the 70s my uncle Greg was a young man of about 17-18 (people were grown men earlier back then) and he got a little more serious about hunting pigs. Now with the purpose of selling the carcasses at "chillers" around the state. The price for boar meat at that time was very high and there was an explosion of pig dogging for profit in the 70s. Lots of different people started their own line, and my uncle Greg was one of them. Mick Hodgens, the guy who created the bull arab was another one of them. This is also when Rod Barker started his "bullzons", when Cecil Tyice started "dane x bms" (later carried on by O'Halloran), when Doug Mummery started "Ebt x mastiffs", when Butters (don't know first name) started his mish-mash line of I dunno whats. Bully Greys and bullstags started then also (Not sure if Burr Lee started in the 70s though). Not entirely sure but Bloom brothers may have started then too. Another one was a family friend named "Cole", who ended up being my grandmas second husband. He had his own line. Thousands of people did. My uncle Greg's line were a bit like bull arabs but leaning a bit more to bully greys. They weren't very big, maybe 30-35 kgs (65 - 80 lbs) and just looked like leggy ebts, they were usually mostly white and even often had prick ears and maybe an eye patch or something. My Dad and his brothers would frequently go pig hunting with Greg and his dogs out west, who would also hunt scrub bulls and roos and basically anything. Even Brumbies (feral horse). He didn't really "break" them to be pig focussed, and in fact was a bit of an outlaw/petty crim kind of guy at the time. There's even rumours of him fighting them in casual amateur little pissing contest matchups when other guys would argue their dogs were better or whatever. This was apparently pretty common around the "chiller culture" of the 70s. Another uncle of mine, his brother, is the one who told me he witnessed that first hand and also said one time he let one of his dogs attack one of his racing greyhounds and that uncle is still pissed off about it (yes that uncle bred racing greyhounds). Uncle Greg's version is that Kent (the uncle who bred greyhounds) was bragging his greyhounds could kill a pig dog and Greg wanted shut him up. Who knows... For about 20 years uncle greg bred his line and hunted pigs for the chillers. In 1989 I was 6 and wanted a puppy and my dad said "I'll take care of it" and he went and got me a pig dog. Not one of my uncles, as we actually lived far away from him at that time. He just got some mongrel pig dog pup from close by, but did so because he figured if we have to have a dog it might as well be a useful pig dog. Anyway, in 1995 something happened to the pig meat prices and the chillers all largely shut down and lots of people moved away from pig dogging. My uncle Greg was one of them. He went and became a builder and his line actually died out. Meanwhile, I had this maniac pig dog that was tough as hell and it was kind of legendary among my friends and family for being like the hannibal lecter of dogs. One of my cousins, Dean, was especially impressed and interested and he ended up buying his own pig dogs and taking up pig hunting in the late 90s when he was a teenager. Dean actually lived with my Grandma because his mother was braindamaged. And that's where "Cole" comes in. My grand-dad had moved on to greener pastures, lived at the coast with a new wife and no longer lived the country life. Cole actually became my Grandma's new "boyfriend", and basically raised Dean as a son. He didn't live with him, he lived on like a massive ranch way out in the outback where he still bred his line of pig dogs. They were also like bull arabs. His were very very very similar to bull arabs (ebt/pointer/grey), but strictly speaking aren't because they aren't related to Mick Hodgens' bull arabs, they probably pre-date bull arabs, but they are basically the same animal. When Cole died he actually tried to leave Dean most of his money (later contested by his real kids who got most of it back), but asked Dean to continue his pig dog line since he liked hunting pigs and was still a country boy, unlike his real kids. Dean has been doing that ever since, and my "bull arab" was bred by Dean and is from that line, so it's technically not a "bull arab", BUT also it gets complicated because Dean has freely introduced actual bull arabs into his line over the last 20 years. That said he has also introduced bull stag. And bullwolfhound actually (Not diesel, which was Dean's dog, but a different one named "Woofy"). My dog very much looks like a bull arab and basically is, so I just say it is a bull arab. But yeah my family's original 70s line died out in 1995, but "we" "adopted" a different "70s line" in the early 00s. Separate to all this, my Great Grandfather, my Grandmother(Cole's Girlfriend)'s father, was an Englishman who settled in Australia after serving in world war 1 as a light horsemen. He was given a HUUUUGE chunk of outback land, hundreds of thousands of acres (it takes nearly an hour to drive from the house to the front gate and mailbox), and on that land bred sheep, cattle and horses. And dogs. These are like cattle dogs and also were part time hog hunting cattle dogs. MY grandma's sister, despite being 80 something, STILL lives on that huge farm with the original line of horses and cattle dogs and cattle and etc. Her son, my dad's cousin, has the neighbouring property and he also breeds pig dogs and has since the 70s, which he uses to hunt over both expansive properties. I actually don't know much about them but they have a bull-staggy sort of look. Then I could go on and list lots of other relatives and friends breeding pig dogs and/or embroiled in the history of pig dogs. It's just the part of Australia where I'm from, that's what it's like, it's all about pig dogs and cattle dogs. So yeah it's "in my blood" so to speak. I've merely owned some over the years. I personally did one breeding once (bull arab x ddb/apbt) but it was stupid and luckily all the offspring got desexed. I do intend to breed my current "Cole-line" female because she is very very legit and NEARLY exactly what I want for the rest of my life dog-wise (especially in temperament, instincts and drives, which is the difficult to find "gold dust" stuff- I wouldn't mind steering the line towards being taller and faster, but that's easy). I'm trying to move to my own farm asap where I can hunt with my dogs more regularly and keep more dogs to actually sustain a line. My cousin Dean currently has some unrelated dogs (as well as the related ones), one in particular is a tall bully stag which would be ideal for a mate for my dog IMO. So I'm hoping that will be the foundation and I will go from there. I actually want to hunt boars and ALSO red deer. I used to have “family has had protection dogs for generations” in my Quora bio but studman told me it probably wasn’t the best idea
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Post by Hardcastle on Nov 7, 2022 19:51:18 GMT
Don't see how it's a bad idea, lol.
I'd be curious to hear about it. Like where and what protection dogs.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2022 20:05:17 GMT
When you hunt boar and red deer will you record it? It'd be cool to have some videos of a dog hunting red deer. And also boars 1-out. Could you current BA catch a red deer or is that going to be the domain of the hairy arabs?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2022 20:05:33 GMT
How big and tough are red deer?
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Post by Hardcastle on Nov 8, 2022 1:47:50 GMT
They're big, a stag can weigh over 200 kgs or nearly 500 lbs. That said, they're not that tough or dangerous really. They should be more dangerous, their antlers are insane weapons but they don't use them very intelligently or bravely against predators. It would almost be a mishap or accident if your dog got impaled, rather than like a purposeful murder like a bull or boar will dog. I think my current BA could catch one. She's unfortunately only seen deer once and they were a pair of small fast male fallow deer that got away from her. They had a decent headstart. Bones actually bailed up a Rusa stag when he was a pup, he ran it down and overtook it and put it into a defensive position but then he just blasted it in the face with his stupidly loud barks until I dragged him away. He didn't really know what to do and never really did mature into a hunting dog. I made a mistake buying him from a guy who also bred catahoulas and said "they're the same thing, like american bull arabs" and I was like "wtf? and I should have walked away right there because I think bones may have even been crossed with catahoula. Either that or this guy just bred cur barky bull arabs.
Winnie would have lugged that same deer for sure. Rusa stags are about 120-150 kgs (around 300 lbs). Reds are a step up but I think any legit one out pig dog should lug a Red stag. Deerhounds are basically designed specifically to lug red stags so that indicates what you need.
I'd love to get footage of hunting, even with drones and stuff, that would be the dream.
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Post by lincoln on Nov 8, 2022 4:05:36 GMT
Don't see how it's a bad idea, lol. I'd be curious to hear about it. Like where and what protection dogs. My great grandparents had protection Dobermans and my grandmother had protection Dobermans (they would also use some to guard property as well) even earlier generations may have had some but I’m not sure i guess it skipped the generation before me, I would like to resume it in the generations one day
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2022 4:20:18 GMT
They're big, a stag can weigh over 200 kgs or nearly 500 lbs. That said, they're not that tough or dangerous really. They should be more dangerous, their antlers are insane weapons but they don't use them very intelligently or bravely against predators. It would almost be a mishap or accident if your dog got impaled, rather than like a purposeful murder like a bull or boar will dog. I think my current BA could catch one. She's unfortunately only seen deer once and they were a pair of small fast male fallow deer that got away from her. They had a decent headstart. Bones actually bailed up a Rusa stag when he was a pup, he ran it down and overtook it and put it into a defensive position but then he just blasted it in the face with his stupidly loud barks until I dragged him away. He didn't really know what to do and never really did mature into a hunting dog. I made a mistake buying him from a guy who also bred catahoulas and said "they're the same thing, like american bull arabs" and I was like "wtf? and I should have walked away right there because I think bones may have even been crossed with catahoula. Either that or this guy just bred cur barky bull arabs. Winnie would have lugged that same deer for sure. Rusa stags are about 120-150 kgs (around 300 lbs). Reds are a step up but I think any legit one out pig dog should lug a Red stag. Deerhounds are basically designed specifically to lug red stags so that indicates what you need. I'd love to get footage of hunting, even with drones and stuff, that would be the dream. Lol, were you happy with Bones? Why'd you go through with it? That guy was an idiot. Were you dumb back then? Did Bones ever get into dog fights? Did he perform alright?
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Post by Hardcastle on Nov 8, 2022 5:28:28 GMT
They're big, a stag can weigh over 200 kgs or nearly 500 lbs. That said, they're not that tough or dangerous really. They should be more dangerous, their antlers are insane weapons but they don't use them very intelligently or bravely against predators. It would almost be a mishap or accident if your dog got impaled, rather than like a purposeful murder like a bull or boar will dog. I think my current BA could catch one. She's unfortunately only seen deer once and they were a pair of small fast male fallow deer that got away from her. They had a decent headstart. Bones actually bailed up a Rusa stag when he was a pup, he ran it down and overtook it and put it into a defensive position but then he just blasted it in the face with his stupidly loud barks until I dragged him away. He didn't really know what to do and never really did mature into a hunting dog. I made a mistake buying him from a guy who also bred catahoulas and said "they're the same thing, like american bull arabs" and I was like "wtf? and I should have walked away right there because I think bones may have even been crossed with catahoula. Either that or this guy just bred cur barky bull arabs. Winnie would have lugged that same deer for sure. Rusa stags are about 120-150 kgs (around 300 lbs). Reds are a step up but I think any legit one out pig dog should lug a Red stag. Deerhounds are basically designed specifically to lug red stags so that indicates what you need. I'd love to get footage of hunting, even with drones and stuff, that would be the dream. Lol, were you happy with Bones? Why'd you go through with it? That guy was an idiot. Were you dumb back then? Did Bones ever get into dog fights? Did he perform alright? It didn't really register that the breeder being stupid would mean the dog was gonna suck. I was just like "hmm that was an odd thing to say..." and then over the following months I would slowly notice the dog was off. For what it's worth he performed good in his few fights. He was a really impressive athlete, extremely fast and strong with a big strong head. He didn't like getting hurt but his offense was pretty powerful. He was oddly dog aggressive, but had no hunting instincts at all. He only wanted to play fetch and had no interest in animals. It was annoying. He was also annoyingly hyperactive and barked way too loud and way too often. He was a dud, not physically, but mentally and in drives/temperament. I've gotten better at interpreting breeders that are legit since then. TBH I was hellbent on getting him for his tuxedo colouring, lol. Yeah he wasn't good. Still sad when he died prematurely from a twisted stomach though.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2022 0:30:21 GMT
@hardcastle
How long have you known Tristan/Bolushi for?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2022 0:35:36 GMT
@hardcastle How long have you known Tristan/Bolushi for? I do know I've commented on his answer a year and a few months ago and he upvoted it. So I guess that might count... even though it's not ''knowing''. Antonio could probably remember things better.
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Post by Hardcastle on Dec 3, 2022 1:34:16 GMT
I don't remember shit. When did you first join carnivora? Was Dale Earnfart still there? I feel like I've seen you around but only clearly met you when you reached out and asked if I was Dale. It wasn't that long ago really.
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