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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2023 8:54:51 GMT
How are dogs in S tier with 700 kg tanks? I could kill them myself lol. ''Argentine Bulldog'' ''American Bulldog'' ''American Pit Bulldog'' It's a subjugation tierlist, you yourself know Spanish Bulldogs can subjugate bulls, the badass fighting bulls in Spain... Everything up there is more or less the same animal. This montage I made recently happens to justify my placements very well: rumble.com/v24m452-hunting-dog-combat-montage-v2.htmlDexterity and intelligence is a bitch, that's the secret if you want to not die to a gripper. Yeah, but lol those breeds were designed to combat against the animals they usually hunt, so they shouldn't be killed or wounded by them - really can't even put them in the tier list lol. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2023 9:15:22 GMT
''Argentine Bulldog'' ''American Bulldog'' ''American Pit Bulldog'' It's a subjugation tierlist, you yourself know Spanish Bulldogs can subjugate bulls, the badass fighting bulls in Spain... Everything up there is more or less the same animal. This montage I made recently happens to justify my placements very well: rumble.com/v24m452-hunting-dog-combat-montage-v2.htmlDexterity and intelligence is a bitch, that's the secret if you want to not die to a gripper. Yeah, but lol those breeds were designed to combat against the animals they usually hunt, so they shouldn't be killed or wounded by them - really can't even put them in the tier list lol. Well they do get killed and wounded plenty, otherwise you'd have a pool of worthless dogs who don't die, but yeah you can get away injury-free if your opponent can't move or dislodge yourself from its main offense point. Gripping dogs live a very hazardous life, on the frontline just taking what they've got coming in stride. Gored, kicked, flung, scratched, face ripped completely off with dangling bites of flesh everywhere so horrific even r/banpitbulls felt extremely bad... these are deathly injuries that regularly occur to grippers. It's just that they go about 6 years before one of these incidents kills them or retires them. The list was for shock value but nobody here is actually that stupid, so everyone roughly agrees that gripping dogs excel above all wild carnivores at big game predation... |
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Post by Hardcastle on Jan 13, 2023 9:20:10 GMT
I'll be honest I'm a little confused by your Tier list bolushi. It should be ranking one thing, so like if it's about the ability of dogs to subjugate big game, it should just have dogs. If it's about how hard to subjugate various species of big game are, it should just have those species. I think I see what you're doing but it doesn't really align with how Tier Lists are intended to work so I can definitely see why it's confusing.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2023 9:21:46 GMT
I'll be honest I'm a little confused by your Tier list bolushi. It should be ranking one thing, so like if it's about the ability of dogs to subjugate big game, it should just have dogs. If it's about how hard to subjugate various species of big game are, it should just have those species. I think I see what you're doing but it doesn't really align with how Tier Lists are intended to work so I can definitely see why it's confusing. It was both a ''how hard is X to subjugate than Y, and which of these animals are best suited to subjugate these animals. Where is their limit?'' Fairly straightforward. It's like doing a ranking of speed and then which predators can outrun which herbivores. |
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Post by Hardcastle on Jan 13, 2023 9:44:07 GMT
Why'd I put the giant forest hog under the wild boar? Didn't intend to do that. Saw them on the DVD and they look cool, they didn't set the dogs on them for fear of getting shot down with heavy artillery. Wonder if they were being dramatic/sensational on the DVD (Bloom brothers sometimes get criticised by hunters for that reason). You could definitely dog giant forest hogs, they'd be comparable to a large sub-species of boar, so pretty nasty. If they were on par with Ussuri boar I think that would be a compliment to them, but understandable. They should definitely not be higher. Also it's kind of weird they ran into giant Forest hogs, who live in the equatorial jungles of the congo and west africa. I thought they were in south africa? Down there the other hog they have apart from the warthog is "the bush pig", Potamochoerus Larvatus. "Africa" from ozziedoggers said in his experience Bush Pigs are equal to feral pigs in Australia (and size range is the same), and he said warthogs were lesser for fighting but higher for running ability. I consider bush pigs, aussie pigs, american hogs, Indian boars, all in the same tier. Giant forest hogs higher as are probably some other sub-species of sus scrofa like carpathian boars, and ussuri boars probably higher still. Warthogs lower, then red river hogs and various south east asian pig species lower still. There are also some other small sub-species of sus scrofa in this category. Lower than that would be peccaries just due to size, even though they are very feisty. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2023 9:46:53 GMT
Why'd I put the giant forest hog under the wild boar? Didn't intend to do that. Saw them on the DVD and they look cool, they didn't set the dogs on them for fear of getting shot down with heavy artillery. Wonder if they were being dramatic/sensational on the DVD (Bloom brothers sometimes get criticised by hunters for that reason). You could definitely dog giant forest hogs, they'd be comparable to a large sub-species of boar, so pretty nasty. If they were on par with Ussuri boar I think that would be a compliment to them, but understandable. They should definitely not be higher. Also it's kind of weird they ran into giant Forest hogs, who live in the equatorial jungles of the congo and west africa. I thought they were in south africa? Down there the other hog they have apart from the warthog is "the bush pig", Potamochoerus Larvatus. "Africa" from ozziedoggers said in his experience Bush Pigs are equal to feral pigs in Australia (and size range is the same), and he said warthogs were lesser for fighting but higher for running ability. I consider bush pigs, aussie pigs, american hogs, Indian boars, all in the same tier. Giant forest hogs higher as are probably some other sub-species of sus scrofa like carpathian boars, and ussuri boars probably higher still. Warthogs lower, then red river hogs and various south east asian pig species lower still. There are also some other small sub-species of sus scrofa in this category. Lower than that would be peccaries just due to size, even though they are very feisty. They said they would if the rangers wouldn't shoot them down with machine guns. |
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Post by Hardcastle on Jan 13, 2023 9:48:46 GMT
Ooohhh ok.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2023 7:59:50 GMT
 It's a ''Who would win?'' tierlist but it has to go off of ABC logic so some rankings are inevitably going to be wrong. I am still making and adjusting it but that is roughly correct. Tried to avoid females, will add them if pressed. Also I don't know if the greyhound is actually a whippet or not, but I placed it like I would an english greyhound. I want to add more stuff to it manually, but don't want to scrap the tierlist. Hmm... |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2023 8:11:24 GMT
I don't know WTF to do with panda. It's so bad but not that bad but it also kinda is that bad.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2023 11:30:29 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2023 20:52:36 GMT
Animals I could take in a fight. Why would the paper plane wolf beat you but not the bulldog thingy below? One rough tug of the leg rips open the wolf's sternum. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2023 20:59:54 GMT
Animals I could take in a fight. Why would the paper plane wolf beat you but not the bulldog thingy below? One rough tug of the leg rips open the wolf's sternum. Because it's smaller. They'll both be rushing at me anyways lol. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2023 21:06:18 GMT
Why would the paper plane wolf beat you but not the bulldog thingy below? One rough tug of the leg rips open the wolf's sternum. Because it's smaller. They'll both be rushing at me anyways lol. Yes it is smaller but its limbs can move in ways a wolf's limbs cannot without snapping. For the wolf even if you are losing, grab its leg. You'll cripple it eventually. If you end up in a comparable situation with a gripping dog you will need to choke it out which is considerably more difficult because it is latched onto you and is not letting go. The worst part about wolf is if it circles and picks you apart. Herders do it with baboons and flawless them. Much stronger bulldogs can die. The same bulldogs that would thrash 10 herders. |
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Post by s on Sept 1, 2023 13:15:11 GMT
Animals I could take in a fight. Why would the paper plane wolf beat you but not the bulldog thingy below? One rough tug of the leg rips open the wolf's sternum. Lol, unlike Bulldog (who is unremarkable in weaponry, Pitbulls have dentition only slighty better than that of Coyotes) Wolf has great weaponry. Also the Wolf's skin is probably thicker than that of the Bulldog as well, if anyone is going to get it's insides opened by a "rough tug of the legs" it would be the Bulldog. |
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Post by Bolushi on Sept 1, 2023 13:56:46 GMT
Why would the paper plane wolf beat you but not the bulldog thingy below? One rough tug of the leg rips open the wolf's sternum. Lol, unlike Bulldog (who is unremarkable in weaponry, Pitbulls have dentition only slighty better than that of Coyotes) Wolf has great weaponry. Also the Wolf's skin is probably thicker than that of the Bulldog as well, if anyone is going to get it's insides opened by a "rough tug of the legs" it would be the Bulldog. Wolves have skin thinner than a lot of sighthounds. A bulldog's skin is about 5x thicker or more, it is not close. Then on top of that wolves are extremely gracile compared to lots of dogs. They just come crashing down like a sack of potatoes and cannot regain their footing afterwards. There is a video of 2 big Spitz dogs killing a wolf (one did most of the work) and the resistance in the wolf's body was absolutely pathetic. Also the wolf has a better "punch" but a bulldog has a better "grappling arm". A gripping dog's teeth suit its style perfectly. "A boxer punches harder than Khabib does sooo that's a stronger punch boxer wins" is dumb and you are doing that here. For personal reference if I tug on the leg of my Spitz mutt (better than wolf btw but close enough) and feel its neck and then try the same with my uncle's pitbull it is very apparent which dog would get its sternum broken and get screwed first, and also who had thicker skin which was not close. My dog would get trashed horribly despite his superior tooth length and whatever. Also some pitbulls I have known where about equal in weight to my dog but an inch or so shorter meaning it is considerably stronger. Math checked out in reality when a fight did happen. |
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