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Post by PumAcinonyx SuperCat on Jun 12, 2023 15:17:18 GMT
I'm not very sure about using a study as evidence. what There's a reason I said that. The carnivore limb robustness study also has lions scoring above tigers, but reality doesn't seem to agree with this. Lions struggle to take down cape buffaloes in large groups, yet tigers have singlehandedly killed gaurs and water buffaloes 6 to 7 times their size, both species being larger than cape buffaloes. Even if you try to say, "gaurs have thinner necks", well what do you have to say about water buffaloes? Why does the tiger ROUTINELY and SINGLEHANDEDLY kill bigger prey than what lion prides kill when the lion scores above the tiger in that very same robusticity study? Answer that question. |
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Post by Wyatt on Jun 12, 2023 15:17:36 GMT
The difference in head-size...   This doesn’t look like at parity. Come on! Can you name this region on the map? The region in this is the Go Fuck Yourself, Dirty Cocksucking Hockey Puck Cunt |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2023 15:24:30 GMT
This doesn’t look like at parity. Come on! Can you name this region on the map? The region in this is the Go Fuck Yourself, Dirty Cocksucking Hockey Puck Cunt There'd be no difference. The head if the jag would still be far larger. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2023 15:29:32 GMT
Btw I'm pretty sure I posted an image of a dead cougar that was killed and partially eaten by a jaguar.
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Post by PumAcinonyx SuperCat on Jun 12, 2023 15:33:57 GMT
Btw I'm pretty sure I posted an image of a dead cougar that was killed and partially eaten by a jaguar. But in what region was that? I asked you that question, but you didn't answer. That cougar looked pretty small too. Haven't you gotten my point yet? ALL I'm saying is that generally, Jaguar > Cougar, but a fight at EQUAL MASSES (how many times do I have to say "EQUAL MASSES" before you understand?) is much closer than what people think. If it wasn't, we would see reports of jaguars CLEARLY harassing similar-sized cougars and the cougars totally living in fear of them. But we don't. We see mutual respect. How can you have mutual respect for something that is clearly far beneath you. This is not even up for debate. If you can’t show proof of cougars being terrified of similar-sized jaguars, then you're just wasting your time. It's that simple. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2023 15:34:27 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2023 15:38:12 GMT
Btw I'm pretty sure I posted an image of a dead cougar that was killed and partially eaten by a jaguar. But in what region was that? I asked you that question, but you didn't answer. That cougar looked pretty small too. Haven't you gotten my point yet? ALL I'm saying is that generally, Jaguar > Cougar, but a fight at EQUAL MASSES (how many times do I have to say "EQUAL MASSES" before you understand?) is much closer than what people think. If it wasn't, we would see reports of jaguars CLEARLY harassing similar-sized cougars and the cougars totally living in fear of them. But we don't. We see mutual respect. How can you have mutual respect for something that is clearly far beneath you. This is not even up for debate. If you can’t show proof of cougars being terrified of similar-sized jaguars, then you're just wasting your time. It's that simple. Spírito Santa. Jaguars are smaller there and are only slightly larger than Cougars. |
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Post by PumAcinonyx SuperCat on Jun 12, 2023 15:41:18 GMT
Thanks for answering at last. But I'm still very curious about why there's no dominance, no "lording over" cougars in such regions. Surely, if the jaguar was much stronger, it would know it and it wouldn't be hesitant to attack something that it knows it would EASILY defeat, would it?
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Post by PumAcinonyx SuperCat on Jun 12, 2023 15:43:27 GMT
@ling , I'm having a hard time playing the video you posted. And I can't see the picture below it very clearly.
Is there something that you could do about it?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2023 15:47:59 GMT
@ling , I'm having a hard time playing the video you posted. And I can't see the picture below it very clearly. Is there something that you could do about it? I'll try get the link. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2023 15:48:45 GMT
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Post by PumAcinonyx SuperCat on Jun 12, 2023 15:51:08 GMT
Thank you @ling
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Post by PumAcinonyx SuperCat on Jun 12, 2023 15:57:08 GMT
First off, the video is literally ZERO SECONDS long!
Secondly, as the title says, that was in BRAZIL, where jaguars are much larger than cougars. Jaguars are at their largest in Brazil. The chances of that being a fight at close to similar weights is extremely close to zero. And that's a generous statement.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2023 16:03:44 GMT
First off, the video is literally ZERO SECONDS long! Secondly, as the title says, that was in BRAZIL, where jaguars are much larger than cougars. Jaguars are at their largest in Brazil. The chances of that being a fight at close to similar weights is extremely close to zero. And that's a generous statement. The fuck do you want me to do then? Fly over to South America and force a jag and cougar to fight each other? |
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Post by Hardcastle on Jun 12, 2023 21:36:32 GMT
There's a reason I said that. The carnivore limb robustness study also has lions scoring above tigers, but reality doesn't seem to agree with this. Lions struggle to take down cape buffaloes in large groups, yet tigers have singlehandedly killed gaurs and water buffaloes 6 to 7 times their size, both species being larger than cape buffaloes. Even if you try to say, "gaurs have thinner necks", well what do you have to say about water buffaloes? Why does the tiger ROUTINELY and SINGLEHANDEDLY kill bigger prey than what lion prides kill when the lion scores above the tiger in that very same robusticity study? Answer that question. There have been many cases of lionesses killing cape buffalo single handedly. I've watched it many times, and yes sometimes a pride struggles as well. This just shows that our perception of the benefits of numbers are a little overblown or too oversimplified. This one did it the hard way, but honestly I grew up seeing it happen on tv every other week and have been surprised when I see people try to say a lion can't kill a buffalo 1 on 1. Another - Males - Guar and water buffalos are also worse at fighting predators than cape buffalo. Have also seen a tiger get shit whipped by what looked like a half starved dairy cow, so yeah we can't get too carried away seeing this or that failure. Lions and tigers both are adapted to take large bovines alone. Lions are social primarily to compete with AWDs and Spotted hyenas. |
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