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Post by grippingwhiteness on Jul 5, 2023 22:05:49 GMT
The problem is that the size disparity is too much for the shark to become actually dangerous to an orca, male or female. Sharks will naturally flee as they see one.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2023 22:19:26 GMT
The problem is that the size disparity is too much for the shark to become actually dangerous to an orca, male or female. Sharks will naturally flee as they see one. Yes, but out of millions of years of co-existence between orcas and great whites, there has to be at least one case where a shark killed a full-grown specimen. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2023 0:41:32 GMT
Someone requested "Dire wolf vs Gorilla" on carnivora...
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Post by Bolushi on Jul 9, 2023 1:04:44 GMT
Someone requested "Dire wolf vs Gorilla" on carnivora... Is anyone surprised? |
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Post by Hardcastle on Jul 9, 2023 9:29:57 GMT
I love the dire wolf but it definitely is the most hyped canine by far. People think it's like at jaguar level or something, when it is more like a largish awd.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2023 22:13:12 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2023 12:43:44 GMT
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Post by Hardcastle on Jul 19, 2023 13:09:34 GMT
Maybe we need some kind of general primate appreciation thread? I kind of hate primates, but have in the past been obsessed with Mandrills, Hamadryas baboons, and kind of weirdly I went through a significant capuchin monkey phase.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2023 13:12:10 GMT
Maybe we need some kind of general primate appreciation thread? I kind of hate primates, but have in the past been obsessed with Mandrills, Hamadryas baboons, and kind of weirdly I went through a significant capuchin monkey phase. Do you hate gorillas? You can't hate gorillas surely. |
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Post by Hardcastle on Jul 19, 2023 13:28:48 GMT
You're right actually. Gorillas are un-hateable.
I hate chimps, and I hate monkeys generally. Orangutans also can't really muster up hate, but I find them kind of boring.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2023 13:47:50 GMT
You're right actually. Gorillas are un-hateable. I hate chimps, and I hate monkeys generally. Orangutans also can't really muster up hate, but I find them kind of boring. I hate chimps too. They're scary, vicious and hostile. They even eat other chimps from different troops... crazy. Orangutans? Eh, I don't know. I wish they were more fighter-ish, kind of around the level that gorillas are at. It'd make them way more interesting imo. |
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Post by CoolJohnson on Jul 19, 2023 23:15:20 GMT
While the gorilla usually will win this match, the leopard would give a good fight. There was a fight where neither was killed, but the adult gorilla gave off a 'fear odor'.  there is also the case of three male Gorillas, two Silverbacks and a Blackback, that were suspected to have been killed by a Leopard. Two Silverbacks and a Blackback were killed by Leopards. "Leopard predation was strongly suspected in three deaths (although scavenging cannot be ruled out): a silverback in very poor physical condition at Mbeli Bai, a silverback at Bai Hokou, and a blackback at Lossi." A Silverback who lost his females ended up getting killed by a Leopard. " Two cases of group formation were observed at Mbeli Bai, the only site where repeated observations of solitary males were made. Of the nine solitary males, one acquired two females who have subsequently bred, but the other eventually lost all of his females. His body was later found with signs of leopard predation." This study shows how Leopard predation is an important factor in Gorilla mortality. " Given the difficulty of observing predation events, and the slow life histories of gorillas, the discovery of three cases of probable leopard predation suggests that it is an important cause of mortality in certain populations." Robbins, Martha M., et al. "Social structure and life‐history patterns in western gorillas (Gorilla gorilla gorilla)." American Journal of Primatology: Official Journal of the American Society of Primatologists 64.2 (2004): 145-159. The accounts of leopard predation combined with the fight where it appeared the leopard gave the gorillas some trouble indicates that this fight could be suprisingly closer than expected. As in a Gorilla would win 6-8 out of 10 times rather than a 100% winning rate. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2023 23:28:13 GMT
While the gorilla usually will win this match, the leopard would give a good fight. There was a fight where neither was killed, but the adult gorilla gave off a 'fear odor'. there is also the case of three male Gorillas, two Silverbacks and a Blackback, that were suspected to have been killed by a Leopard. Two Silverbacks and a Blackback were killed by Leopards. "Leopard predation was strongly suspected in three deaths (although scavenging cannot be ruled out): a silverback in very poor physical condition at Mbeli Bai, a silverback at Bai Hokou, and a blackback at Lossi." A Silverback who lost his females ended up getting killed by a Leopard. " Two cases of group formation were observed at Mbeli Bai, the only site where repeated observations of solitary males were made. Of the nine solitary males, one acquired two females who have subsequently bred, but the other eventually lost all of his females. His body was later found with signs of leopard predation." This study shows how Leopard predation is an important factor in Gorilla mortality. " Given the difficulty of observing predation events, and the slow life histories of gorillas, the discovery of three cases of probable leopard predation suggests that it is an important cause of mortality in certain populations." Robbins, Martha M., et al. "Social structure and life‐history patterns in western gorillas (Gorilla gorilla gorilla)." American Journal of Primatology: Official Journal of the American Society of Primatologists 64.2 (2004): 145-159. The accounts of leopard predation combined with the fight where it appeared the leopard gave the gorillas some trouble indicates that this fight could be suprisingly closer than expected. As in a Gorilla would win 6-8 out of 10 times rather than a 100% winning rate. I still can't believe that gorillas are sometimes getting destroyed by leopards. Like come on?!?!? They should be able to manhandle jaguars ffs. |
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Post by Hardcastle on Jul 20, 2023 0:16:59 GMT
Not to mention farting embarrassingly out of fear.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2023 0:19:23 GMT
I want to see a real confrontation between a gorilla and a leopard. Just to see how the silverback is getting slaughtered. Imo, assumptionally, the gorilla isn't actually bad at "fighting", it's just, it won't fight. It'll freak out and panic instead of throwing its fists around.
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