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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2023 4:06:59 GMT
Assuming average Cross-river silverbacks (ie guessing 350 lbs) vs 430 lb Bengal tiger, I actually think the two gorillas have the physical tools to beat the tiger given there are two of them. This is assuming bulldog-like gameness plus working together and supporting one another completely on the part of the two silverbacks. Still a very difficult win, but I think these two silverbacks could have the advantage if they were just on complete savage mode plus working together completely. However in practice the gorillas won't bring in that kind of gameness to the table and won't want to work well-enough together to manage it either. Say you get two silverbacks as motivated as silverbacks can be vs a tiger as motivated as a tiger can be, I just think each gorilla will be too cowed by and indecisive with a tiger of that size to do what needs to be done. Reason being the tiger could fairly easily chew out any one of the silverbacks by themselves, therefore the gorillas would find it hard to look past that possibility and are not combat savvy-enough and experienced in teamwork like a pack of wild canids are in defeating a greater adversary. A very motivated tiger could charge in on Silverback 1 like a bulldog and go straight for the gorilla's neck. Silverback 1 WILL go to ground and then you have one tiger mauling the shit out of a silverback in the process of killing him. While this is happening, Silverback 2 won't do enough in supporting Silverback 1 by closing in and savaging the occupied tiger to cause the tiger to disengage from Silverback 1 before he's disabled. Silverback 2 won't do this because he will be afraid that when he causes the tiger enough pain to get the tiger to disengage from Silverback 1, the tiger's automatic reaction will be to go for the cause of that pain ie Silverback 2. Correction: Tiger threatens gorilla troop, gorillas somehow force tiger to fight, 2 silverbacks punch, maul and pull the tiger to death. Nah you don't really understand gorillas. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2023 4:47:26 GMT
Correction: Tiger threatens gorilla troop, gorillas somehow force tiger to fight, 2 silverbacks punch, maul and pull the tiger to death. Ehhh maybe. Gorillas can't actually punch, when fighting they really just fling their arms around and bite their opponent. The tiger is also stronger. I think pfp as well lol. The two will give it more trouble than one, but I have yet to see a pair of gorillas "working "together". That's right tigers are still p4p stronger. It's also supposed by some that champion wild great ape super-strength that gorillas and chimps have the thick long bones to justify super-strength. I posted a study in the Studies and Articles sub-board which provides limb long bone dimensions for many individuals within various gorilla subspecies, along with chimp and bonobo. A year or two ago I added up all four limb long bones for every single male individual for both gorilla and chimp and found the robusticity averages. Just trying to remember the exact figures but humerus average was either 7.6 or 7.8 for gorilla and 7.6 or 7.4 for chimp. I've done the same with all four human long bones and human humerus averages around the ballpark 7.0 for male and low 6s for females. Other recent studies coming at strength from different angles support this with estimates of chimps being 1.5-times stronger than an average man P4P. Gorilla won't be a lot different especially given male chimps have less than 1% bodyfat while gorillas are have a lot more (comparable to human athletes). Folks still buy into the myth of king kong gorillas fucking shit up with super-strength. Empirical evidence doesn't support king kong gorilla either, when I looked up online every single case of gorilla-on-human attack (irrc about 7 accounts) none of those gorilla performed the feats people assume they would. And I remember a lot or most of these were women. The gorillas always ended up mauling the people and the worse injuries being mauling injuries (and I remember that most or all of those humans survived). That implies the gorilla's biggest weapon is their maul. If a gorilla could snap your arms and legs just like that they'd go about disabling you that way rather than mauling. King kong gorilla feats are just supposition based off those flawed chimp studies of the 1920s. Plus I think people's brain gets short-circuited by the combination of chimps and gorillas being morphologically so alike us while obviously being stronger. For some reason this combination causes us to inflate their strength and capabilities to unusual proportions. And compared to humans gorillas ARE ridiculous. But ridiculous like a human bodybuilder x strongman. There's not much more them than that - really mobile strongmen that have huge hands plus a maul and insane flexibility and slightly thicker skin nowhere near a cat or canid. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2023 5:58:55 GMT
Correction: Tiger threatens gorilla troop, gorillas somehow force tiger to fight, 2 silverbacks punch, maul and pull the tiger to death. Nah you don't really understand gorillas. You don't understand gorillas. This is the worst mismatch on this board, even for joke standards. Make this a 1v1 and it is heavily in favor of the tiger and STILL not a mismatch. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2023 8:47:56 GMT
Nah you don't really understand gorillas. You don't understand gorillas. This is the worst mismatch on this board, even for joke standards. Make this a 1v1 and it is heavily in favor of the tiger and STILL not a mismatch. There was a cagefight between a leopard and a silverback gorilla and the leopard killed the ape. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2023 10:31:45 GMT
You don't understand gorillas. This is the worst mismatch on this board, even for joke standards. Make this a 1v1 and it is heavily in favor of the tiger and STILL not a mismatch. There was a cagefight between a leopard and a silverback gorilla and the leopard killed the ape. Is there a gorilla vs leopard thread? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2023 11:06:39 GMT
There was a cagefight between a leopard and a silverback gorilla and the leopard killed the ape. Is there a gorilla vs leopard thread? Leopard kills Gorilla almost twice its size.  Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2023 11:07:23 GMT
Is there a gorilla vs leopard thread? Leopard kills Gorilla almost twice its size. View AttachmentI can't wait to have a gorilla vs leopard thread so that your account can be relevant. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2023 11:11:16 GMT
I can't wait to have a gorilla vs leopard thread so that your account can be relevant. I do favour a gorilla over a leopard lol. I'm just saying that you're overrating them. Stop making a fuss about nothing and realise the evidence is factual and not made up. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2023 11:11:57 GMT
I can't wait to have a gorilla vs leopard thread so that your account can be relevant. I do favour a gorilla over a leopard lol. I'm just saying that you're overrating them. Stop making a fuss about nothing and realise the evidence is factual and not made up. I'm saying you need to post it in a gorilla vs leopard thread as it won't help the tiger now. Are gorillas significantly less formidable than mandrills which beat the shit out of all leopards? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2023 11:15:42 GMT
I do favour a gorilla over a leopard lol. I'm just saying that you're overrating them. Stop making a fuss about nothing and realise the evidence is factual and not made up. I'm saying you need to post it in a gorilla vs leopard thread as it won't help the tiger now. Are gorillas significantly less formidable than mandrills which beat the shit out of all leopards? Leopards are pussies. They get scared very easily. Also they kill mandrills lol...I could find like 50 photos of mandrills in the jaws of leopards. And you can't blame an animal for running away from like 42 monkeys. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2023 11:17:19 GMT
I'm saying you need to post it in a gorilla vs leopard thread as it won't help the tiger now. Are gorillas significantly less formidable than mandrills which beat the shit out of all leopards? Leopards are pussies. They get scared very easily. Also they kill mandrills lol...I could find like 50 photos of mandrills in the jaws of leopards. And you can't blame an animal for running away from like 42 monkeys. 200* monkeys. Btw don't you mean baboons? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2023 11:27:16 GMT
I'm saying you need to post it in a gorilla vs leopard thread as it won't help the tiger now. Are gorillas significantly less formidable than mandrills which beat the shit out of all leopards? Leopards are pussies. They get scared very easily. Also they kill mandrills lol...I could find like 50 photos of mandrills in the jaws of leopards. And you can't blame an animal for running away from like 42 monkeys. I said ''Man''drills, I want to see leopards killing ''Man''drills. Not femdrills. A leopard is stupid to try and ambush a mandrill, but the pathetic monkeys behind the mandrill they can take out. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2023 11:29:04 GMT
Ok so I actually want to post some pro-gorilla evidence since it's starting to seem like I love leopards. And also I thought this was cool: Gorillas and Lions uses to co-exist in Africa. There is a report of both species fighting and seemingly hurting eachother badly. No died.  Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2023 11:29:41 GMT
Leopards are pussies. They get scared very easily. Also they kill mandrills lol...I could find like 50 photos of mandrills in the jaws of leopards. And you can't blame an animal for running away from like 42 monkeys. 200* monkeys. Btw don't you mean baboons? Baboons and mandrills, same deal. Running away from 199 monkeys hiding in trees and 1 monkey not hiding in a tree is absolutely cowardly. Like a man walking into a boxing ring and going ''No... the spectators are rooting for my opponent. This is horrifying, nooo! *flees*'' |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2023 11:31:20 GMT
Ok so I actually want to post some pro-gorilla evidence since it's starting to seem like I love leopards. And also I thought this was cool: Gorillas and Lions uses to co-exist in Africa. There is a report of both species fighting and seemingly hurting eachother badly. No died. I thought gorillas were just blacklisted in lion country. Like, they're too slow to get away and the lions match them in number and 7-8/10 troop members are 150lb vegan combat-averse pacifist monkeys. Just sounded like a bad match. So if multiple lions have a lot of respect for even single silverback gorillas, what suggests a tiger has any chance? I mean... if the tiger has any shot at all those lions would've ate those gorillas easily. |
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