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Post by Hardcastle on Jan 7, 2023 21:04:16 GMT
I can only seem to find evidence of Gracilis living in Florida and Venezuela...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2023 21:09:45 GMT
I will concede that I wasn't aware it was some mega huge bison Gracilis was hunting... and actually now that I look into it... are you sure it was Gracilis? Seems to me it was fatalis hunting those Bison. Whoops, yeah, that's my bad. Anyways I think I still favour Smilodon. They seem a lot more specialised towards forelimb control and subjugation than modern pantherines. Those long teeth would have required precision and control to be used effectively. The teeth show they must have been very good at controlling things with their forelimbs. And forelimb control wins fights. The cat who can achieve forelimb grappling mastery will land their killing bite and win the match. And I believe Smilodon would out-grapple a jaguar because it had another layer of specialisation towards forelimb control and subjugation. Also iirc even the more gracile S. gracilis was more robust than a jaguar. Realistically it holds every advantage. |
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Post by Hardcastle on Jan 7, 2023 21:09:54 GMT
In fact, it seems Gracilis is only known from one partial canine found... how the fuck do we know it ate mega bison? For all we know it specialised on deer (not saying it did, just saying).
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Post by Hardcastle on Jan 7, 2023 21:12:20 GMT
Also we don't really know how robust it was. I'm kind of just assuming gracilis and the jaguar are equal in size, but smilodon being a smilodon, and jaguar being a pantherine (but an especially robust one), so to me... I consider them probably pretty equal. I do typically favour smilodons over pantherines. But smallest least impressive smilodon with most impressive (proportionately) pantherine... meh, seems pretty even.
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