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Post by Hardcastle on Jan 6, 2023 23:39:40 GMT
I consider them basically equal prey, as do wolves and bears and mountain lions. Allowing for exceptionally pathetic "hobby" cattle, dairy cattle and zebu, and disregarding them. A substantial serious bull, a bull bison and a bull cape buffalo are actually, IMO, all fairly equal in regards to the challenge they pose for wild carnivoran predators.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2023 3:26:37 GMT
I consider them basically equal prey, as do wolves and bears and mountain lions. Allowing for exceptionally pathetic "hobby" cattle, dairy cattle and zebu, and disregarding them. A substantial serious bull, a bull bison and a bull cape buffalo are actually, IMO, all fairly equal in regards to the challenge they pose for wild carnivoran predators. No dice on cape buffalo, they are a bit special and definitely superior. I would agree if we were talking water buffalo. |
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Post by Hardcastle on Jan 7, 2023 3:43:49 GMT
I think cape buffalo and cattle both might be a little better at killing predators than bison, I consider them all basically equally difficult to kill... although if anything the cape buffalo may be more durable. The bison I may support in a fight between the 3 bovines.
All in all I think the differences through the eyes of a predator shouldn't be overestimated.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2023 3:58:20 GMT
I think jag has zero, zilch, nada chance against any cape buffalo while I think they could take take cow bison or maybe a bull rarely for a large male jaguar in a really good ambush.
I think it would be totally fucked with scrub bull too. I view them as equal to cape buffalo.
But yeah all would be somewhat similar.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2023 3:59:39 GMT
Where would you guys rank Gaur on that scale?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2023 4:03:48 GMT
Where would you guys rank Gaur on that scale? They are a very dumb in particular animal and their ability to kick ass is kind of lacking. They have poor eyesight too, or are just horribly dumb. Tigers take them, but due to their size and the fact that they can sometimes kick ass with their horns they manage to survive tiger attacks but never pose a danger to tigers. If a tiger pushed its luck with a gaur there is not much a gaur can do to stop it. Tigers take more impressive prey than gaurs, though the gaur predation is still impressive. I believe a jaguar could kill a gaur but would never stick around to find out. |
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Post by Hardcastle on Jan 7, 2023 4:17:44 GMT
This would be my take on that question-
Bison
Offense (against predators) - 6
Offense (against bovines) - 10
Durability (against predators) - 8
Durability (against bovines) - 10
Strength - 9
Speed - 9
Agility - 8
Aggression - 7
AVG Overall - 8.375
Gaur
Offense (against predators) - 6
Offense (against bovines) - 6
Durability (against predators) - 10
Durability (against bovines) - 6
Strength - 9
Speed - 6
Agility - 6
Aggression - 6
AVG Overall - 6.875
Cape Buffalo
Offense (against predators) - 9
Offense (against bovines) - 8
Durability (against predators) - 9
Durability (against bovines) - 8
Strength - 9
Speed - 8
Agility - 7
Aggression - 9
AVG Overall - 8.375
Iberian Cattle
Offense (against predators) - 10
Offense (against bovines) - 8
Durability (against predators) - 7
Durability (against bovines) - 7
Strength - 7
Speed - 9
Agility - 9
Aggression - 10
AVG Overall - 8.375
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2023 4:19:18 GMT
This would be my take on that question- BisonOffense (against predators) - 6 Offense (against bovines) - 10 Durability (against predators) - 8 Durability (against bovines) - 10 Strength - 9 Speed - 9 Agility - 8 Aggression - 7 AVG Overall - 8.375GaurOffense (against predators) - 6 Offense (against bovines) - 6 Durability (against predators) - 10 Durability (against bovines) - 6 Strength - 9 Speed - 6 Agility - 6 Aggression - 6 AVG Overall - 6.875Cape BuffaloOffense (against predators) - 9 Offense (against bovines) - 8 Durability (against predators) - 9 Durability (against bovines) - 8 Strength - 9 Speed - 8 Agility - 7 Aggression - 9 AVG Overall - 8.375Iberian CattleOffense (against predators) - 10 Offense (against bovines) - 8 Durability (against predators) - 7 Durability (against bovines) - 7 Strength - 7 Speed - 9 Agility - 9 Aggression - 10 AVG Overall - 8.375I remember that. |
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Post by Hardcastle on Jan 7, 2023 4:19:44 GMT
How though, I just made it.
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Post by Hardcastle on Jan 7, 2023 4:20:20 GMT
Maybe I am braindamaged from the booze and forgot doing the same thing another time, doubt the results are the same though.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2023 4:20:51 GMT
I disagree with that but I will make my own when I get back to a computer. Interesting inquiry.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2023 4:21:36 GMT
How though, I just made it. You made one and messaged it to me on Quora. Might've even been a graph. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2023 4:21:56 GMT
(It was on my TM account)
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Post by Hardcastle on Jan 7, 2023 4:22:46 GMT
Yeah I vaguely remember doing something similar before, but not exactly the same.
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Post by Hardcastle on Jan 7, 2023 4:23:15 GMT
I disagree with that but I will make my own when I get back to a computer. Interesting inquiry. I'm not even sure I agree, but yes you should do it, it's a fun exercise. Would be fun to do similar things for other animals too. |
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