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Post by Bolushi on Mar 4, 2023 7:19:10 GMT
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Post by Colein on Mar 4, 2023 7:22:54 GMT
Those weren't the measurements I was talking about. They were from canada, dunno from what province though, they're on carnivora. 76cm chest girth for a 70kg puma- I hope you understand isn't accurate. It's more around 81cms for 64kgs so the measurements might be off just fyi I can post some indian leopard measurements where they fail to reach 50cm neck sizes at over 60kgs, but I have no need. They are similar in neck and chest if we are to use impressive specimens of both. No it didn't, pause the video when the Puma is on the same plane as the Boar and you can see their shoulder heights are similar, indicating an adult boar, plus the scream of the boar has more bass to it... That's an adult. Turkmen horses are kinda lanky, mustangs are far more impressive imo. Red deer can APPARENTLY reach 300kgs though I see no proof of that. They usually hover around maximum mule deer weight more often than not (200-230kgs) for big stags. And regardless elk are more impressive anyways, bigger, stronger, more dangerous antlers etc. I highly doubt any eland kill goes over 500kgs, their weight is greatly varied. Pumas also take domestic cattle. I wasn't talking about the shiras moose variety, the Canadian subspecies, whatever they are called can reach upto 700kgs and more. Shiras moose can also reach 550kgs, even if they are the smallest sub species, look it up. Bull moose predation is pretty extraordinary, and nothing really tops it imo. A female Puma likewise killed a wolf from the largest, strongest sub species of wolf on the planet that was not only a male- but also larger than herself. (McKenzie vally wolve's were introduced into Yellowstone) so the Puma edges out impressive predation on wolves bar non. Pumas have killed anatolian Shepherds (I think) and have almost killed gamebred, field tested dogo argentino's in one on one fights. Dunno about wolfhound, barely anybody owns them for the Puma to have a chance to kill one in the first place... If a wolf isn't going to be a problem a wolfhound especially will not. A wolfhound would eat a wolf. They take feral donkeys, guanaco and red deer stags. Wolfhounds are also physically superior to wolves, noted in that a wolfhound of the same height as a wolf is 180lbs while the wolf is 120lbs. An Irish Wolfhound is perfectly crafted to destroy a wolf hand over fist. Horrible matchup for wolf. Horrible matchup for cougar. Somewhat okay catch dog outsizing the animals by 65 and 55lbs respectively. There are maybe 10 instances of cougars killing domestic cattle, escaped pampered pet dogs have also killed domestic cattle. And also, these are lowest of the low cattle taken by exceptional cougars. I've not read one account of a cougar killing an adult bull moose. BTW let's not forget cougars hunt by ambush and ambush only. Sure, they do it, they're great at cervids and equids. Complete shit at suids and bovines. That's cougars. Cougars also deliberately select compromised or small opponents. Sol running a magnifying glass over this kills is a little bit necessary. There is an account of a cougar ambushing and skull biting an Anatolian Shepherd in the middle of the night, and the dog didn't even see it coming at all. I've seen cougars "almost kill" yearling Dogo Argentinos, and that's it. There is no such thing as gamebred Dogo Argentinos, but there are field tested ones. Field tested Dogos will have already beat cougars. Cougars can beat Dogos, but it is not to be expected and I haven't seen it happen w/o there being a good excuse for the dog. Wasn't even me looking for one, I instantly saw a pup that wasn't filled out running towards a cougar. The result isn't a surprise, a surprise would be the yearling Dogo winning. Good on team cougar that didn't happen. Lol, those dogos were no yearlings bro. Just stop coping, please. Pumas kill adult boars so I guess boars are extra shit. Good, a Puma kills a wolf everytime, maybe a wolfhound can hang for longer than 30 seconds, I'd reckon 35 on a good day. Kinda like how dogos select for toddlers and babies to maul when their owner leaves the room. The only excuses the dogs have is that they suck, that's it. Nope, free ranging cattle. If I could post pictures i would post a excerpt of 2 Puma adult moose predations. It's all ambush, it's all fake news, avoid the vaxx!
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Post by Bolushi on Mar 4, 2023 7:25:13 GMT
A wolfhound would eat a wolf. They take feral donkeys, guanaco and red deer stags. Wolfhounds are also physically superior to wolves, noted in that a wolfhound of the same height as a wolf is 180lbs while the wolf is 120lbs. An Irish Wolfhound is perfectly crafted to destroy a wolf hand over fist. Horrible matchup for wolf. Horrible matchup for cougar. Somewhat okay catch dog outsizing the animals by 65 and 55lbs respectively. There are maybe 10 instances of cougars killing domestic cattle, escaped pampered pet dogs have also killed domestic cattle. And also, these are lowest of the low cattle taken by exceptional cougars. I've not read one account of a cougar killing an adult bull moose. BTW let's not forget cougars hunt by ambush and ambush only. Sure, they do it, they're great at cervids and equids. Complete shit at suids and bovines. That's cougars. Cougars also deliberately select compromised or small opponents. Sol running a magnifying glass over this kills is a little bit necessary. There is an account of a cougar ambushing and skull biting an Anatolian Shepherd in the middle of the night, and the dog didn't even see it coming at all. I've seen cougars "almost kill" yearling Dogo Argentinos, and that's it. There is no such thing as gamebred Dogo Argentinos, but there are field tested ones. Field tested Dogos will have already beat cougars. Cougars can beat Dogos, but it is not to be expected and I haven't seen it happen w/o there being a good excuse for the dog. Wasn't even me looking for one, I instantly saw a pup that wasn't filled out running towards a cougar. The result isn't a surprise, a surprise would be the yearling Dogo winning. Good on team cougar that didn't happen. Lol, those dogos were no yearlings bro. Just stop coping, please. Pumas kill adult boars so I guess boars are extra shit. Good, a Puma kills a wolf everytime, maybe a wolfhound can hang for longer than 30 seconds, I'd reckon 35 on a good day. Kinda like how dogos select for toddlers and babies to maul when their owner leaves the room. The only excuses the dogs have is that they suck, that's it. Nope, free ranging cattle. If I could post pictures i would post a excerpt of 2 Puma adult moose predations. It's all ambush, it's all fake news, avoid the vaxx! You can't post pictures, nor can you post evidence, as you are wrong and you are dumb. I will leave CoolJohnson to flaming you on cougars being an objectively shit animal a tiny baby step over cheetahs that get ragdolled all over the place by whippet-sized lurchers even with a 40lb size advantage. Cougar vs gripping dog or greyhound of the same weight is a mismatch in the dog's favor. Cougar vs 2 pet bloodhounds is a mismatch in the dog's favor. Any large dog that sees a cougar causes it to flee, as the cougar is aware of exactly how shit of an animal it is. South American hunters have captured 8 month old cougars, raised them for many months and then came home to a bloody fucking mess with a dead cougar and a pampered pet dog. Hard to lose to a fucking cougar. The fodder of the LGD world, single Great Pyrenees, have bodied cougars. Large male ones, at that. How sad, how so so so sad. So sad in fact I've seen a golden retreiver and border collie kill a cougar.
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Post by Colein on Mar 4, 2023 7:30:57 GMT
Pretty unimpressive. Just some dogs thrown on cougar cubs for the most part, the only 2 that were adult pumas one the Puma got dragged down a hill and the other the Puma beat the living fuck out of the dog and was saved by the guy with a knife. Typical. Super tiny leopard, like 25kgs maybe? Being generous. And declawed/defanged Pumas being set on by dogos. Again, typical. Not impressed. The one video you did post with an actual intact puma caught in a trap though was really a good indication of what would actually happen to the dog in any given unaltered fight, minus the large neck collar. Post the other one with the dogo running in without a neck collar and being subdued in like half a second. That one is my favorite🔥💯 Yeah, Puma wins.
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Post by Bolushi on Mar 4, 2023 7:31:58 GMT
Pretty unimpressive. Just some dogs thrown on cougar cubs for the most part, the only 2 that were adult pumas one the Puma got dragged down a hill and the other the Puma beat the living fuck out of the dog and was saved by the guy with a knife. Typical. Super tiny leopard, like 25kgs maybe? Being generous. And declawed/defanged Pumas being set on by dogos. Again, typical. Not impressed. The one video you did post with an actual intact puma caught in a trap though was really a good indication of what would actually happen to the dog in any given unaltered fight, minus the large neck collar. Post the other one with the dogo running in without a neck collar and being subdued in like half a second. That one is my favorite🔥💯 Yeah, Puma wins. Go dig up the 100s of cougars killed by bird dogs. You can't see what's going on, you're a total retard reject nobody knows and everyone in their right mind would hate no matter which animals you like. This is tiresome, and retarded, believing there are cougars that are jaguar level is already a sign of below 100IQ. Cougars can't even kill spanish greyhounds and sheepdogs. When caught in the open, they lose miserably. Millions of years evolving to be an animal that loses to fat cancerous labradors when brought home by sympathetic owners.
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Post by Colein on Mar 4, 2023 7:36:54 GMT
Lol, those dogos were no yearlings bro. Just stop coping, please. Pumas kill adult boars so I guess boars are extra shit. Good, a Puma kills a wolf everytime, maybe a wolfhound can hang for longer than 30 seconds, I'd reckon 35 on a good day. Kinda like how dogos select for toddlers and babies to maul when their owner leaves the room. The only excuses the dogs have is that they suck, that's it. Nope, free ranging cattle. If I could post pictures i would post a excerpt of 2 Puma adult moose predations. It's all ambush, it's all fake news, avoid the vaxx! You can't post pictures, nor can you post evidence, as you are wrong and you are dumb. I will leave CoolJohnson to flaming you on cougars being an objectively shit animal a tiny baby step over cheetahs that get ragdolled all over the place by whippet-sized lurchers even with a 40lb size advantage. Cougar vs gripping dog or greyhound of the same weight is a mismatch in the dog's favor. Cougar vs 2 pet bloodhounds is a mismatch in the dog's favor. Any large dog that sees a cougar causes it to flee, as the cougar is aware of exactly how shit of an animal it is. South American hunters have captured 8 month old cougars, raised them for many months and then came home to a bloody fucking mess with a dead cougar and a pampered pet dog. Hard to lose to a fucking cougar. The fodder of the LGD world, single Great Pyrenees, have bodied cougars. Large male ones, at that. How sad, how so so so sad. So sad in fact I've seen a golden retreiver and border collie kill a cougar. I have nothing to really say to any of that... You are just wrong my brother lol. Dumbass. Like you can only say so much stupid shit before you start being ignored or just insulted for continuing to say stupid crap. Truth is... Pumas are superior to any dog 1v1, talking a male Puma of course. You can cope and not want to believe it, and that's cool.
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Post by Bolushi on Mar 4, 2023 7:39:29 GMT
You can't post pictures, nor can you post evidence, as you are wrong and you are dumb. I will leave CoolJohnson to flaming you on cougars being an objectively shit animal a tiny baby step over cheetahs that get ragdolled all over the place by whippet-sized lurchers even with a 40lb size advantage. Cougar vs gripping dog or greyhound of the same weight is a mismatch in the dog's favor. Cougar vs 2 pet bloodhounds is a mismatch in the dog's favor. Any large dog that sees a cougar causes it to flee, as the cougar is aware of exactly how shit of an animal it is. South American hunters have captured 8 month old cougars, raised them for many months and then came home to a bloody fucking mess with a dead cougar and a pampered pet dog. Hard to lose to a fucking cougar. The fodder of the LGD world, single Great Pyrenees, have bodied cougars. Large male ones, at that. How sad, how so so so sad. So sad in fact I've seen a golden retreiver and border collie kill a cougar. I have nothing to really say to any of that... You are just wrong my brother lol. Dumbass. Like you can only say so much stupid shit before you start being ignored or just insulted for continuing to say stupid crap. Truth is... Pumas are superior to any dog 1v1, talking a male Puma of course. You can cope and not want to believe it, and that's cool. Cougars haven't exhibited their superiority over anything its size that fights tooth and claw. Nor any suid vaguely close to its size. There are warthogs in Texas cougars refuse to kill because they are inferior to leopards. Warthogs run them off the land and don't even run to their holes in cougar presence.
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Post by Colein on Mar 4, 2023 7:42:27 GMT
Pretty unimpressive. Just some dogs thrown on cougar cubs for the most part, the only 2 that were adult pumas one the Puma got dragged down a hill and the other the Puma beat the living fuck out of the dog and was saved by the guy with a knife. Typical. Super tiny leopard, like 25kgs maybe? Being generous. And declawed/defanged Pumas being set on by dogos. Again, typical. Not impressed. The one video you did post with an actual intact puma caught in a trap though was really a good indication of what would actually happen to the dog in any given unaltered fight, minus the large neck collar. Post the other one with the dogo running in without a neck collar and being subdued in like half a second. That one is my favorite🔥💯 Yeah, Puma wins. Go dig up the 100s of cougars killed by bird dogs. You can't see what's going on, you're a total retard reject nobody knows and everyone in their right mind would hate no matter which animals you like. This is tiresome, and retarded, believing there are cougars that are jaguar level is already a sign of below 100IQ. Cougars can't even kill spanish greyhounds and sheepdogs. When caught in the open, they lose miserably. Millions of years evolving to be an animal that loses to fat cancerous labradors when brought home by sympathetic owners. Blah blah blah blah:) Pumas are closer to Jaguars in terms of robustity than are Leopard's my brother, so it's backed by something lol. Your little toothpick greyhound dogs would make a nice appetizer for a Puma, kid yourself not that dog 1 on 1? 2 on 1? Not worth shit against a puma, straight the fuck up. Snap out of it and stop spamming like a dumbass saying this nonsensical bullshit lol. Watch more videos of puma cubs getting mobbed and killed, maybe somehow it will translate into an adult male Puma and be relevant to fuck all. Puma beats the shit out of a dogo ITS A YEALING OMFG IM COPING SO FUCKING HARD RN Multiple dogs beat a puma cub SEE, SEE! Dumbass.
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Post by Colein on Mar 4, 2023 7:43:39 GMT
I have nothing to really say to any of that... You are just wrong my brother lol. Dumbass. Like you can only say so much stupid shit before you start being ignored or just insulted for continuing to say stupid crap. Truth is... Pumas are superior to any dog 1v1, talking a male Puma of course. You can cope and not want to believe it, and that's cool. Cougars haven't exhibited their superiority over anything its size that fights tooth and claw. Nor any suid vaguely close to its size. There are warthogs in Texas cougars refuse to kill because they are inferior to leopards. Warthogs run them off the land and don't even run to their holes in cougar presence. Ehh wrong
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Post by Bolushi on Mar 4, 2023 7:45:40 GMT
Go dig up the 100s of cougars killed by bird dogs. You can't see what's going on, you're a total retard reject nobody knows and everyone in their right mind would hate no matter which animals you like. This is tiresome, and retarded, believing there are cougars that are jaguar level is already a sign of below 100IQ. Cougars can't even kill spanish greyhounds and sheepdogs. When caught in the open, they lose miserably. Millions of years evolving to be an animal that loses to fat cancerous labradors when brought home by sympathetic owners. Blah blah blah blah:) Pumas are closer to Jaguars in terms of robustity than are Leopard's my brother, so it's backed by something lol. Your little toothpick greyhound dogs would make a nice appetizer for a Puma, kid yourself not that dog 1 on 1? 2 on 1? Not worth shit against a puma, straight the fuck up. Snap out of it and stop spamming like a dumbass saying this nonsensical bullshit lol. Watch more videos of puma cubs getting mobbed and killed, maybe somehow it will translate into an adult male Puma and be relevant to fuck all. Puma beats the shit out of a dogo ITS A YEALING OMFG IM COPING SO FUCKING HARD RN Multiple dogs beat a puma cub SEE, SEE! Dumbass. And you have no evidence because a Dogo is superior to a Golden Retriever and Border Collie. Greyhounds in the middle. You know how cougars never prey on larger constrictor snakes? Yeah, that's what fighting a bull breed or sighthound will be like for it. A constrictor snake wrapped around its neck. The Golden Retriever and Border Collie kill on an exceptionally large male cougar was just really sad, perhaps we should sweep that under the rug considering it completely tarnishes cougar reputation.
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Post by Colein on Mar 4, 2023 7:52:56 GMT
Blah blah blah blah:) Pumas are closer to Jaguars in terms of robustity than are Leopard's my brother, so it's backed by something lol. Your little toothpick greyhound dogs would make a nice appetizer for a Puma, kid yourself not that dog 1 on 1? 2 on 1? Not worth shit against a puma, straight the fuck up. Snap out of it and stop spamming like a dumbass saying this nonsensical bullshit lol. Watch more videos of puma cubs getting mobbed and killed, maybe somehow it will translate into an adult male Puma and be relevant to fuck all. Puma beats the shit out of a dogo ITS A YEALING OMFG IM COPING SO FUCKING HARD RN Multiple dogs beat a puma cub SEE, SEE! Dumbass. And you have no evidence because a Dogo is superior to a Golden Retriever and Border Collie. Greyhounds in the middle. You know how cougars never prey on larger constrictor snakes? Yeah, that's what fighting a bull breed or sighthound will be like for it. A constrictor snake wrapped around its neck. The Golden Retriever and Border Collie kill on an exceptionally large male cougar was just really sad, perhaps we should sweep that under the rug considering it completely tarnishes cougar reputation. Static pictures = fairy tales lol Pumas kill boa constrictors? I'd love to see a sighthound try a neck bite on a physically superior male Puma with a large neck and massive forelimbs. I'd pay to see it but it'd probably be over before I got to my seat... Seasoned hunters would laugh you out of the room or prescribe you a visit to the nut house. You need multiple formidable dogs for a big male Puma (big being 60kgs) 1 on 1 a 60kg male will kill any dog in under 15 seconds with beautiful ease and discernment. 2 makes it fair and 3 it becomes unfair... It takes multiple though.
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Post by Bolushi on Mar 4, 2023 7:55:56 GMT
This cougar is huge and this is a collie and golden
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Post by Bolushi on Mar 4, 2023 7:57:27 GMT
Dressed out at 184lbs BTW. Dogs caught it in a blueberry bush and black dog crushed its throat.
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Post by Dogo king on Mar 4, 2023 11:19:03 GMT
And you have no evidence because a Dogo is superior to a Golden Retriever and Border Collie. Greyhounds in the middle. You know how cougars never prey on larger constrictor snakes? Yeah, that's what fighting a bull breed or sighthound will be like for it. A constrictor snake wrapped around its neck. The Golden Retriever and Border Collie kill on an exceptionally large male cougar was just really sad, perhaps we should sweep that under the rug considering it completely tarnishes cougar reputation. Static pictures = fairy tales lol Pumas kill boa constrictors? I'd love to see a sighthound try a neck bite on a physically superior male Puma with a large neck and massive forelimbs. I'd pay to see it but it'd probably be over before I got to my seat... Seasoned hunters would laugh you out of the room or prescribe you a visit to the nut house. You need multiple formidable dogs for a big male Puma (big being 60kgs) 1 on 1 a 60kg male will kill any dog in under 15 seconds with beautiful ease and discernment. 2 makes it fair and 3 it becomes unfair... It takes multiple though. Wrong. A dogo would absolutely murder any puma, even the largest. Prove me wrong!
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Post by Comfylounge on Mar 4, 2023 13:54:31 GMT
This cougar is huge and this is a collie and golden Sure buddy, in your dreams. Everyone with functional eyes and a functional brain can see that you photoshopped that image. 1 V 1, cougar decimates dogo argenshitto
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