Size Comparisons

[Hardcastle]

I will say size comparisons bode well for wolves, they are really huge and look like a problem (and I actually think they are), but it's interesting when you understand how light they are. Despite the "square millimetres" they take up on the screen. They are very narrow, have very light gracile bones and not very dense muscle.

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Dec 31, 2022 10:30:27 GMT Hardcastle said:

I re-did the wolf-boarhound comparison with all real specimens.


Bigger version- 


link

Any thoughts? 

Neat, should've added another wolf at the end though.

[Hardcastle]

I was going to put a eurasian wolf on the other side, but couldn't find a good pic. Was also gonna add the O'Halloran but got lazy. You are welcome to take my pic and modify it if you are ever bored enough.

[oldgreengrolar]

Dec 31, 2022 1:09:48 GMT @ling said:

oldgreengrolar

I know they aren’t great but I only had 15 minutes and I’m on phone ^

No you did well. They look quite real:).

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Safety crew spot a female Megalodon.

[oldgreengrolar]

/\ I wonder if it is actually a whale shark . Unless Megalodons are still alive 😲.

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Jan 2, 2023 11:42:12 GMT oldgreengrolar said:

/\ I wonder if it is actually a whale shark . Unless Megalodons are still alive 😲.

I made it sorry, it isn't a real shark...

sadly.

[theundertaker45]

This is the largest bull shark of all time in terms of total length; there have been heavier ones (mostly pregnant females) and there might have been larger sharks when you look at the biggest bull shark teeth and apply some reliable equations in order to estimate size. However, this individual here is what I consider the largest "reliable bull shark", safe from the occasional fisherman adding a few inches/feet to his catch. 






In case you want further information, I'll attach a PDF right here: eprints.cmfri.org.in/6636/1/World_record_sized_giant_bull_shark.pdf

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theundertaker45
Can we get a near parity wolf and cougar comparison? (Actual parity would be quite difficult no? 110-120 v 130 would do)
Coyote and bobcat would also be neat.

[Hardcastle]

To do "weight parity" size comparisons you really need to figure out how tall an animal is at all the different points within it's weight range.

Something similar to my Optimal Top Weights for Functional Dog Types thread but made for other wild animals.

I mean how tall is a 130 lbs puma if a 210 lbs puma is 30 inches (for example)? I don't know but I'd lean towards it being no more than 24 inches tall at the shoulder, and I couldn't begin to try and help with length.

The height difference however will be really massive. 130 lbs is basically a timberwolf at full glory. So with weight parity we are talking about a genuine 10 inch height difference at the shoulder, or the wolf will be 40+% taller.

[Hardcastle]

My estimated attempt at what weight parity would look like.


I agree it's startling, but wolf vs anything at weight parity usually will be startling. Wolves are so unusually light.

At the same time, I don't claim to be a size comparison expert (I'm using mspaint FFS), so I'd be curious to see theundertaker45 's effort.

[Hardcastle]

Dogo and wolf at weight parity-



You can see how much more space is taken up on the screen by the wolf, also contrast the shoulder heights and don't be fooled by the dogo's upright head. That's a 33 inch wolf vs a 27 inch dogo- which is about right for 110 lbs specimens of each animal. The dogo is a heavy leaning boarhound and a bit over the boarhound average for 27 inches - which normally would be about 100 lbs. Most adult male northwestern timberwolves are actually around 110 lbs and 33-34 inches. Some however get to 36 inches and 140 lbs. That was the wolf I presented in the "timberwolves vs boarhound" comparison. A rare max wolf. This is more your normal adult male timberwolf and a rather large but still operational dogo argentino. Both 110 lbs. The wolf is much taller and much longer. The dogo would be wider from the front, has far denser muscle, and more of it, heavier skin, and every single bone in it's body is thicker and heavier. Thus the visual discrepancy at weight parity. The wolf would also look quite different shaved. Very very sleek and gracile.

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Jan 6, 2023 2:03:06 GMT Hardcastle said:

Dogo and wolf at weight parity-



You can see how much more space is taken up on the screen by the wolf, also contrast the shoulder heights and don't be fooled by the dogo's upright head. That's a 33 inch wolf vs a 27 inch dogo- which is about right for 110 lbs specimens of each animal. The dogo is a heavy leaning boarhound and a bit over the boarhound average for 27 inches - which normally would be about 100 lbs. Most adult male northwestern timberwolves are actually around 110 lbs and 33-34 inches. Some however get to 36 inches and 140 lbs. That was the wolf I presented in the "timberwolves vs boarhound" comparison. A rare max wolf. This is more your normal adult male timberwolf and a rather large but still operational dogo argentino. Both 110 lbs. The wolf is much taller and much longer. The dogo would be wider from the front, has far denser muscle, and more of it, heavier skin, and every single bone in it's body is thicker and heavier. Thus the visual discrepancy at weight parity. The wolf would also look quite different shaved. Very very sleek and gracile.

I highly doubt that is accurate unless that Dogo is a rare tall 130lb Dogo. That wolf is horribly doomed if that is accurate. Would a Bullwolf/O'Halloran Hound be taller?

[Hardcastle]

Are you sure it's not just that the dogo has it's head up?
I went by shoulder height. I measured it so the dogo is 80% as tall as the wolf, or I tried to (holding a tape measure up against my work computer screen, lol). Because at 110 lbs, that is true. 27 inches is 80% of 34 inches (give or take).
At max height for the wolf that is insufficient, but 110 lbs isn't a max size northwestern timberwolf.

[Hardcastle]

Jan 6, 2023 2:37:10 GMT Bolushi said:

Jan 6, 2023 2:03:06 GMT Hardcastle said:

Dogo and wolf at weight parity-



You can see how much more space is taken up on the screen by the wolf, also contrast the shoulder heights and don't be fooled by the dogo's upright head. That's a 33 inch wolf vs a 27 inch dogo- which is about right for 110 lbs specimens of each animal. The dogo is a heavy leaning boarhound and a bit over the boarhound average for 27 inches - which normally would be about 100 lbs. Most adult male northwestern timberwolves are actually around 110 lbs and 33-34 inches. Some however get to 36 inches and 140 lbs. That was the wolf I presented in the "timberwolves vs boarhound" comparison. A rare max wolf. This is more your normal adult male timberwolf and a rather large but still operational dogo argentino. Both 110 lbs. The wolf is much taller and much longer. The dogo would be wider from the front, has far denser muscle, and more of it, heavier skin, and every single bone in it's body is thicker and heavier. Thus the visual discrepancy at weight parity. The wolf would also look quite different shaved. Very very sleek and gracile.

I highly doubt that is accurate unless that Dogo is a rare tall 130lb Dogo. That wolf is horribly doomed if that is accurate. Would a Bullwolf/O'Halloran Hound be taller?

An O'Halloran or Bullwolf would be about equal in shoulder height to THAT wolf, so yes taller than the dogo by a lot.

However, those dogs would weigh far far more than both in this image. They'd also weigh far more than a max 36 inch wolf.