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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2022 20:51:18 GMT
Banning pitbulls is a good way to start a civil war, that's why it doesn't happen. It is impossible to enforce a pitbull ban and I know someone who has shipped APBTs into banned countries and the guys on the plane don't give a shit. Then you just call it a Lab x Boxer or whatever and you're set. There are thousands of pitbulls in countries that have banned them, banning will not help the problem. It will make a lot of people criminals. Not too unlike banning pythons and exotic reptiles where you make innocent guys criminals. Banning pythons won't save the everglades, banning pitbulls won't save 1 child from being mauled.
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Post by Johnson on Dec 4, 2022 20:54:54 GMT
Media focus on a narrative can create the impression of an epidemic. It's like recently when they focussed on videos of black people randomly attacking asian people, and acted like it was because of Corona virus. They had like 15 cases on the ready of black people randomly walking up and punching old chinese ladies in the face or whatever, and it was like "this is crazy! Something has to be done!!!". What people don't understand is, they actually have 800 000 videos of mentally ill people attacking strangers for no reason. All colours on both sides of the beating (although admittedly black people are more likely to be desitute and brain damaged by drugs and mentally ill, due to higher rates of being impoverished) Mentally ill people are doing that all day everywhere in every city all over the world. You can make up any story you want. You can say people in green trousers are attacking people in pink shirts, and scour through the 800 000 videos and find 10 videos with that dynamic and show only them on the news. Pink shirts people will hence-forth live in fear, but it's a fabricated problem. Same with pitbulls. Dog attacks are very much a tiny non-issue. Are pitbull types more likely to do damage when they attack? Sure, but the problem of dog attacks is just a drop in the ocean of problems anyway. Bicycles are a way way bigger problem. Around 60 000 cyclists are killed on the roads each year, vs 50 people killed by dogs. That's the reality. Why not campaign against bicycles? Your comparison is weird but I will try to answer the reply. First off, if there are mentally ill/drugged out people, then capture as much as you can, put them in a facility till they recover, and try your best to prevent drugs from being spread or increase incentives for treating mental illness. For bicyclists, I guess the best way is to make better infrastructure for safer travel? The problem with the pitbull is that it is a useless, violent breed that can just be banned to ensure safety for people and pets. For example, a safe neighborhood with good infrastructure will become more unsafe with the addition of pitbulls. On the other hand, a relatively unsafe área can still start with certain safety features. For example, they can remove pitbulls to make the neighborhood safer as well as take care of the people and the infrastructure of the areas. The countries that banned pitbulls already have their own problems. The pitbull was a bad element that could be removed easily, so once that is gone then they can focus on the other issues of their city or nation. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2022 20:59:53 GMT
Media focus on a narrative can create the impression of an epidemic. It's like recently when they focussed on videos of black people randomly attacking asian people, and acted like it was because of Corona virus. They had like 15 cases on the ready of black people randomly walking up and punching old chinese ladies in the face or whatever, and it was like "this is crazy! Something has to be done!!!". What people don't understand is, they actually have 800 000 videos of mentally ill people attacking strangers for no reason. All colours on both sides of the beating (although admittedly black people are more likely to be desitute and brain damaged by drugs and mentally ill, due to higher rates of being impoverished) Mentally ill people are doing that all day everywhere in every city all over the world. You can make up any story you want. You can say people in green trousers are attacking people in pink shirts, and scour through the 800 000 videos and find 10 videos with that dynamic and show only them on the news. Pink shirts people will hence-forth live in fear, but it's a fabricated problem. Same with pitbulls. Dog attacks are very much a tiny non-issue. Are pitbull types more likely to do damage when they attack? Sure, but the problem of dog attacks is just a drop in the ocean of problems anyway. Bicycles are a way way bigger problem. Around 60 000 cyclists are killed on the roads each year, vs 50 people killed by dogs. That's the reality. Why not campaign against bicycles? Your comparison is weird but I will try to answer the reply. First off, if there are mentally ill/drugged out people, then capture as much as you can, put them in a facility till they recover, and try your best to prevent drugs from being spread or increase incentives for treating mental illness. For bicyclists, I guess the best way is to make better infrastructure for safer travel? The problem with the pitbull is that it is a useless, violent breed that can just be banned to ensure safety for people and pets. For example, a safe neighborhood with good infrastructure will become more unsafe with the addition of pitbulls. On the other hand, a relatively unsafe área can still start with certain safety features. For example, they can remove pitbulls to make the neighborhood safer as well as take care of the people and the infrastructure of the areas. The countries that banned pitbulls already have their own problems. The pitbull was a bad element that could be removed easily, so once that is gone then they can focus on the other issues of their city or nation. They can't remove them at all, bans don't help one tiny bit. The UK banned pitbulls, then Australia and everyone else ignorantly followed despite there being not many pitbulls at all in Australia to begin with. This goes for most other countries, and they still have many banned breeds amongst them. Recently Animal Watch did a video on the UK where some guys had working Dogos, they're banned and they were in an area where people walk their dogs. Not one person gave a shit, the creator did not give a shit, just blurred out their faces. It is unavoidable that people will not heed to those laws, if some hoodlum has a pitbull in an area where they're banned I bet you not one person is going to touch his dog. And where there are pitbull bans in place, they kill dogs that aren't pitbulls and they try to appease the public that they're doing something when they're not. Bikes are a useless tool when people can just use scooters, banning bikes will make communities safer. Banning cars will too, just use scooters. Oh, people are falling off of scooters too, ban those. Humans can walk. Approximately 50 old people die a year from falling over, let's force people to slither around like snakes etc. etc. |
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Post by Hardcastle on Dec 4, 2022 22:02:12 GMT
"Better safe than sorry." How do you respond to the fact that humans are literally 8000 times more likely to murder you than dogs in general? Don't you think maybe this is a weird obscure cause to get behind given that fact? Humans aren't 8000 times the population of dogs btw, they are about 7 times the population. So when you see a random person they are significantly more than 1000 times more likely to kill you than a pitbull. Why would you worry about pitbulls? Of all things? Lol. Bad humans are a long time problem. Shitbull are a useless child killing breed that can still properly be banned. It just demonstrates that they aren't REALLY a problem, in the scheme of things. You're whipped up into a Karen-esque frenzy over a non-issue. This means you're either very impressionable, OR for you this is convenient because you just don't like pitbulls and think think they look ugly and hate the idea of them beating up cool noble wild animals (I'd lean towards the latter, it doesn't seem like you're generally passionate about public safety). Anything you care to mention is a bigger threat to public safety. Literally the only thing that isn't, is other breeds of dog. Everything else; from bicycles to bic lighters to stairs to horses to ladders to etc etc etc kills more people per year than pitbulls. I don't think you care about public safety, I think you hate pitbulls, and probably mostly because they have the capacity to say "cool story" to noble wild animals before they rip them to pieces, to that I say -  |
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Post by lincoln on Dec 4, 2022 22:06:33 GMT
Pure A.P.B.Ts in shelters are very rare, and even if you find one that is pure A.P.B.T it likely has poor genetics, purebred does not mean well bred. This goes for any breed. A well bred A.P.B.T should not be human aggressive most of the dogs in those pictures do not look like A.P.B.Ts. Dogs like Ezekiel and sweetie I find very hard to believe, dogs like Venus and luna it’s hard to tell because of how small they are in the picture, the puppies it’s harder to tell because they are not fully developed. Even if they were pure A.P.B.Ts that’s just 12 dogs. A DNA test isn’t even a great thing to go off of because you don’t know what dogs genetics they originally used in their database to see what a “purebred Pitbull” was, likely they did it based off their looks because before they have the DNA to go off they have to be like, “this looks like a purebred, let’s add this breeds genetics to our database” without actually being sure if it’s actually a purebred dog or not you often can’t take a breeders word unless you sure it is a responsible breeder that knows what they are doing ”better safe then sorry” I guess we better ban mosquitos then, have you seen the amount of people they kill? this is what a legit true A.P.B.T is supposed to look like: Your bs is getting boring. You seem to be making up too much stuff on the spot. I respect the bans since the countries don't care about hurting pit mommy feelings. If it makes you feel any better, all pitbull type dogs need a ban. Your cluelessness and lack of knowledge is getting boring you don’t even know what a real American Pitbull Terrier is, you’ve probably never even seen one in your life like I said before, don’t speak on breeds you know nothing about Random dog bites someone? Know one cares. “Pitbull looking” bites someone? It’s on the news |
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Post by Johnson on Dec 5, 2022 4:02:51 GMT
Your comparison is weird but I will try to answer the reply. First off, if there are mentally ill/drugged out people, then capture as much as you can, put them in a facility till they recover, and try your best to prevent drugs from being spread or increase incentives for treating mental illness. For bicyclists, I guess the best way is to make better infrastructure for safer travel? The problem with the pitbull is that it is a useless, violent breed that can just be banned to ensure safety for people and pets. For example, a safe neighborhood with good infrastructure will become more unsafe with the addition of pitbulls. On the other hand, a relatively unsafe área can still start with certain safety features. For example, they can remove pitbulls to make the neighborhood safer as well as take care of the people and the infrastructure of the areas. The countries that banned pitbulls already have their own problems. The pitbull was a bad element that could be removed easily, so once that is gone then they can focus on the other issues of their city or nation. They can't remove them at all, bans don't help one tiny bit. The UK banned pitbulls, then Australia and everyone else ignorantly followed despite there being not many pitbulls at all in Australia to begin with. This goes for most other countries, and they still have many banned breeds amongst them. Recently Animal Watch did a video on the UK where some guys had working Dogos, they're banned and they were in an area where people walk their dogs. Not one person gave a shit, the creator did not give a shit, just blurred out their faces. It is unavoidable that people will not heed to those laws, if some hoodlum has a pitbull in an area where they're banned I bet you not one person is going to touch his dog. And where there are pitbull bans in place, they kill dogs that aren't pitbulls and they try to appease the public that they're doing something when they're not. Bikes are a useless tool when people can just use scooters, banning bikes will make communities safer. Banning cars will too, just use scooters. Oh, people are falling off of scooters too, ban those. Humans can walk. Approximately 50 old people die a year from falling over, let's force people to slither around like snakes etc. etc. They banned 'pitbulls' but kept staffies and bullies in the UK. So they still suffer from pitbull type dog attacks. This is why the BSL is good for all the pitbull type dogs. The falling over is like comparing apples to oranges. Bikes can be used for exercising in many areas and can be used properly if the user and creator follow the correct safety precautions. A pitbull is akin to a pest. You can call pest removal if your house is affected by them. Same way you can ban a dangerous dog if it is killing the people of your community. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2022 4:05:32 GMT
They can't remove them at all, bans don't help one tiny bit. The UK banned pitbulls, then Australia and everyone else ignorantly followed despite there being not many pitbulls at all in Australia to begin with. This goes for most other countries, and they still have many banned breeds amongst them. Recently Animal Watch did a video on the UK where some guys had working Dogos, they're banned and they were in an area where people walk their dogs. Not one person gave a shit, the creator did not give a shit, just blurred out their faces. It is unavoidable that people will not heed to those laws, if some hoodlum has a pitbull in an area where they're banned I bet you not one person is going to touch his dog. And where there are pitbull bans in place, they kill dogs that aren't pitbulls and they try to appease the public that they're doing something when they're not. Bikes are a useless tool when people can just use scooters, banning bikes will make communities safer. Banning cars will too, just use scooters. Oh, people are falling off of scooters too, ban those. Humans can walk. Approximately 50 old people die a year from falling over, let's force people to slither around like snakes etc. etc. They banned 'pitbulls' but kept staffies and bullies in the UK. So they still suffer from pitbull type dog attacks. This is why the BSL is good for all the pitbull type dogs. The falling over is like comparing apples to oranges. Bikes can be used for exercising in many areas and can be used properly if the user and creator follow the correct safety precautions. A pitbull is akin to a pest. You can call pest removal if your house is affected by them. Same way you can ban a dangerous dog if it is killing the people of your community. Oh, so you mean like pitbulls? ''Bikes can be used for exercising in many areas and can be used properly if the user and creator follow the correct safety precautions.'' |
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Post by Johnson on Dec 5, 2022 4:08:08 GMT
They banned 'pitbulls' but kept staffies and bullies in the UK. So they still suffer from pitbull type dog attacks. This is why the BSL is good for all the pitbull type dogs. The falling over is like comparing apples to oranges. Bikes can be used for exercising in many areas and can be used properly if the user and creator follow the correct safety precautions. A pitbull is akin to a pest. You can call pest removal if your house is affected by them. Same way you can ban a dangerous dog if it is killing the people of your community. Oh, so you mean like pitbulls? ''Bikes can be used for exercising in many areas and can be used properly if the user and creator follow the correct safety precautions.'' You can control bikes. You can't control shitbulls. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2022 4:09:07 GMT
Killing the occasional human doesn't mean anything because 50 people would still die from unrelated dogs anyway, you won't save the 50 people.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2022 4:09:51 GMT
Oh, so you mean like pitbulls? ''Bikes can be used for exercising in many areas and can be used properly if the user and creator follow the correct safety precautions.'' You can control bikes. You can't control shitbulls. Prove it, write 5 paragraphs, minimum of 3 sentences each, explaining your stance with sources to backup your information. |
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Post by Johnson on Dec 5, 2022 4:10:47 GMT
Killing the occasional human doesn't mean anything because 50 people would still die from unrelated dogs anyway, you won't save the 50 people. More like most will be saved if you ban the shitbull. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2022 4:13:23 GMT
Killing the occasional human doesn't mean anything because 50 people would still die from unrelated dogs anyway, you won't save the 50 people. More like most will be saved if you ban the shitbull. Prove they will be saved and not die to another breed. |
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Post by Johnson on Dec 5, 2022 4:43:03 GMT
More like most will be saved if you ban the shitbull. Prove they will be saved and not die to another breed. Considering pitbulls make 65-70% of fatal attacks by dogs, then I can still save 30-35 people just by simply banning shitbulls. The other dogs just need some retraint and I save all the humans. Even if I do not focus on the other dogs, saving 70% of the population is still a better progression than saving none. Does not need to that much explanation. The bike is an inanimate vehicle that one can choose to ride with safety procedures. The only other option would be for a pitbull to get shot since they go on making rampages. This is why a ban is urgent for this mutt. |
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Post by lincoln on Dec 5, 2022 8:56:56 GMT
Prove they will be saved and not die to another breed. Considering pitbulls make 65-70% of fatal attacks by dogs, then I can still save 30-35 people just by simply banning shitbulls. The other dogs just need some retraint and I save all the humans. Even if I do not focus on the other dogs, saving 70% of the population is still a better progression than saving none. Does not need to that much explanation. The bike is an inanimate vehicle that one can choose to ride with safety procedures. The only other option would be for a pitbull to get shot since they go on making rampages. This is why a ban is urgent for this mutt. And very little and maybe even none of those attacks are real American Pitbull terriers. Those dogs you see attacking people are poorly bred as well a well bred A.P.B.T should not be human aggressive also if a “Pitbull” looking dog bites someone it’s on the news but if a dog like a lab or Golden retriever bites then you will rarely hear about it. At the place I work a lab came in because he bit his human on the face but it didn’t get reported, another mix came in after biting children and it didn’t get reported, a cattle dog mix came in because it bit people and it didn’t get reported and more. If it’s not a “Pitbull” looking dog then usually no one cares |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2022 13:45:41 GMT
Prove they will be saved and not die to another breed. Considering pitbulls make 65-70% of fatal attacks by dogs, then I can still save 30-35 people just by simply banning shitbulls. The other dogs just need some retraint and I save all the humans. Even if I do not focus on the other dogs, saving 70% of the population is still a better progression than saving none. Does not need to that much explanation. The bike is an inanimate vehicle that one can choose to ride with safety procedures. The only other option would be for a pitbull to get shot since they go on making rampages. This is why a ban is urgent for this mutt. Not how it works, pitbulls will be replaced. The media started with dobermans, then german shepherds, then rottweilers, then pitbulls. They finally found a tough dog they can demonize, dobermans are weak and pathetic, german shepherds are mediocre and you can make them quit by throwing a rock, rottweilers are still up there but they also don't have the guts to continue their assault. Pitbulls do. This is an awfully recent phenomenon don't you think? I mean in the 1990s and early 2000s I've not observed pitbulls causing destruction, ApexBoy. You cosplaying as a ''Johnson'' doesn't help your case. |
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