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Post by PumAcinonyx SuperCat on Aug 31, 2023 17:07:55 GMT
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Post by PumAcinonyx SuperCat on Aug 31, 2023 17:08:44 GMT
It is a really interesting tiger-involving fight that isn't something contentious like "Tiger vs Lion" or "Tiger vs Ussuri Bear", and one that I am really interested in knowing more about. I don’t see it talked much about in the base, so I thought it would be good to have it on this forum. There's no specific subspecies of tiger or boar being referred to here, it's just "Tiger vs Boar" in general, and deciding who is really stronger. For starters, wild boars are really strong for their size, like really really strong. They definitely are much stronger than any other class of ungulate (bovines, equines, and certainly cervines), pound for pound. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that they actually rival predators in pound for pound strength, which is absolutely unheard of in the prey world; for while it is very possible for a cougar to kill an elk or a horse 7 times its size, it is BY NO MEANS possible for it to stand any sort of chance against a boar 3 times its size. And 3 is even stretching it, I sincerely doubt it could even kill one twice its size. Although I did read some account on the Carnivora Forum of a leopard killing a 200 kg boar (which really caught me unawares). Though there are some doubts surrounding that account: like whether the boar was really legitimately killed by the leopard, whether it hadn't been shot by a hunter before, or whether it was even healthy. I certainly, even as a leopard supporter, don't take that account as gospel truth. It seems to good to be true. The wild boar is in the list of the most dangerous prey animals that any tiger could ever hope to face during its predatory career, only being rivalled by the likes of gaurs and water buffaloes (and possibly bantengs, maybe bull moose too? Who knows?). In fact, the wild boar might actually have a greater chance of killing the tiger, considering that it is more mobile and flexible than a cattle beast, so, it's not easy to just keep it still and try to hamstring it, like a tiger can do to a gaur or buffalo (even though the boar is weaker than either of these animals). Hamstringing is not something that can work on a boar. A tiger has to legitimately wrestle it to the ground, a very laborious task, one which has many times resulted in the death of both combatants, or even only the tiger, with the boar emerging victorious, as will be posted in this thread. I don't have a WEALTH of information regarding this battle, but I will still be able to post pictures, videos and pages regarding interactions between the 2. Accounts of both animals winning and dying will be posted. Also post whatever info you find regarding interactions between tigers and boars. Thoughts everyone: Hardcastle Bolushi lincoln @ling grippingwhiteness CoolJohnson grampa oldgreengrolar s Ransik @espinola Methane |
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Post by PumAcinonyx SuperCat on Aug 31, 2023 17:20:18 GMT
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Post by PumAcinonyx SuperCat on Aug 31, 2023 17:37:32 GMT
Boars are very formidable even in old age, as evidenced by an instance where a tiger fought savagely against an OLD boar and managed to kill it, but was later found dead itself (the tiger) some 45 km from the kill site, apparently, from the wounds it sustained during the struggle  |
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Post by PumAcinonyx SuperCat on Aug 31, 2023 17:43:46 GMT
According to this page, boars are one of tigers' main prey. The cats follow sounders and kill weak or sick members (they are also documented to kill healthy adult specimens in their prime that are without compromise, this page shouldn't mislead you). Tigers treat wild boars differently from how they treat other prey in that they are more persistent in their pursuit of boars. Could be they like the taste of boar flesh more, or something? (Last I checked, cats don't have taste buds for sweetness, but who knows?) It also says that there are MANY cases where boars gored tigers to death.  |
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Post by PumAcinonyx SuperCat on Aug 31, 2023 17:50:54 GMT
Videos of tigers killing boars:
Very formidable and hard-to-bring-down opponents. Literally 11 minutes passed by in this tiger's attempt to pull the boar down:
Tiger faces great difficulty in pulling boar down. Most other ungulates of similar mass, or even much larger, would have gone down very easily. A wildebeest or zebra (both of which are bigger than the boar) for example would have gone down in a couple of minutes, if not in seconds:
My personal favourite: A tiger is attacking a boar, a crocodile approaches, and yet the tiger is able to masterfully keep on attacking the boar, restrain it, and not let the boar either get stolen by the crocodile or escape from both predators. Tigers are truly amazing:
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Post by PumAcinonyx SuperCat on Aug 31, 2023 18:08:00 GMT
Pictures of tigers interacting with boars: Tiger chases boar:   Drawing of a fight between a tiger and a boar:  |
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Post by PumAcinonyx SuperCat on Aug 31, 2023 18:15:58 GMT
Chases a boar:  |
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Post by s on Aug 31, 2023 18:18:41 GMT
VS Right now there is an overpopulation of Wild Boar in my country after their natural predators, Wolves, Bear and to a lesser extent Lynxes were nearly extinguished. Keep in mind a 200kg+ Boar is as rare as a 100kg+ Puma. A few years back they hunted a 200kg Boar in Murcia but he turned out to be a mix with feral pig. If a small pack of Iberian Wolves (smallish Wolf sub-species) was able to defeat one without excessive difficulty i don't see how a Tiger would struggle |
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Post by s on Aug 31, 2023 18:23:18 GMT
Assuming we are talking about a normal 90kg Boar that is. Not a 200kg Monster. Which would put up a good fight with the Tiger.
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Post by PumAcinonyx SuperCat on Aug 31, 2023 18:28:48 GMT
Tiger with dead wild boar:  |
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Post by PumAcinonyx SuperCat on Aug 31, 2023 18:36:03 GMT
s I have yet to watch the video you posted (I'll still watch it), but wild boars for sure give tigers a lot of trouble, and can even kill them. The boar which the wolves killed might have been a lower tier type or maybe not in the peak of its prime. There are different subspecies and tiers of boars. The ones tigers face are the Indian boar and the Ussuri boar. Those are top level. Indian boars bully leopards off kills, while the Ussuri boar is totally immune to virtually, if not LITERALLY any wolf pack or leopard in existence.
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Post by PumAcinonyx SuperCat on Aug 31, 2023 18:37:34 GMT
Assuming we are talking about a normal 90kg Boar that is. Not a 200kg Monster. Which would put up a good fight with the Tiger. I mean "Tiger vs Wild boar" in general. Like, who's the stronger species ultimately. |
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Post by PumAcinonyx SuperCat on Aug 31, 2023 18:46:13 GMT
Tiger hunting boar:  |
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Post by PumAcinonyx SuperCat on Aug 31, 2023 19:01:51 GMT
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