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Post by Hardcastle on Jul 5, 2023 15:13:58 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2023 15:16:01 GMT
Very nice Hardcastle. Funny to see Bulldogs smashing all of the large predators like Lions and Tigers.
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Post by kevin on Jul 5, 2023 15:21:40 GMT
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Post by Hardcastle on Jul 5, 2023 15:24:02 GMT
So the whole "pitbull variation" and "ancient roman bulldog" thing in the original was unnecessary and based on many layers of confusion. Once I really knuckled down and looked at the dimensions and proportions it is clear that one figure was for bulldogs, specifically baiting bulldogs around 18 inches tall though (as opposed to "farm bulldogs"), and the other was for boarhounds in the 26" tall range, basically like smallish dogos and bullarabs, in that basic zone. Most working dogs just were smaller as you go back in history, so that makes sense and that is the distinction. There's no need to speculate on "pitbulls" or any crap like that, these were simply working bulldogs and working boarhounds, and that is that. We don't have "pitbulls". Realistically they're probably about halfway in between those 2, but whatever. Don't care. We have boarhounds and bulldogs still, as functional animal types, so those are what we are talking about here.
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Post by Hardcastle on Jul 5, 2023 15:27:53 GMT
Of course I can never quite upload anything without making one small mistake, this time it was leaving the circle I was copy and pasting at the top left corner.
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Post by Hardcastle on Jul 5, 2023 15:33:05 GMT
Very nice Hardcastle. Funny to see Bulldogs smashing all of the large predators like Lions and Tigers. BTW for people not familiar with working dogs... they might see "bulldog" and think it means the "english bulldog" breed. No. That would actually probably be TOTALLY off the charts (but with no functionality to support the score), the bulldog in question is a working bulldog from around 400AD or so, but it would be the same animal as a modern compact baiting bulldog would be. Again I think the SBT is probably the best analogue for the kind of dog we are talking about.
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Post by Hardcastle on Jul 5, 2023 15:39:11 GMT
And I promised to add eurasian red fox, since it featured in the vindolanda study and only the american red fox was in the limb robusticity study, but it turned out its score was exactly the same as the american red fox, so no need.
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Post by Hardcastle on Jul 5, 2023 16:00:27 GMT
One I would LOVE to get is Dhole... I have the strongest hunch it would match Dire Wolf exactly, but we won't know until we get dhole.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2023 16:11:33 GMT
One I would LOVE to get is Dhole... I have the strongest hunch it would match Dire Wolf exactly, but we won't know until we get dhole. What is the strongest extinct canid?
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Post by kevin on Jul 5, 2023 16:30:38 GMT
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Post by Hardcastle on Jul 5, 2023 16:34:05 GMT
Oh... Well that is disappointing. But thanks anyway.
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Post by kevin on Jul 5, 2023 16:34:23 GMT
One I would LOVE to get is Dhole... I have the strongest hunch it would match Dire Wolf exactly, but we won't know until we get dhole. What is the strongest extinct canid? Perhaps it is epicyon. I heard they were the biggest canids ever.
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Post by kevin on Jul 5, 2023 16:36:35 GMT
Oh... Well that is disappointing. But thanks anyway. Well canids are not particularly strong for their size. Dogs that are bred for the purpose of fighting are the only exception ig.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2023 16:44:46 GMT
What is the strongest extinct canid? Perhaps it is epicyon. I heard they were the biggest canids ever. Xenocyon lycaonoides is up there too. It's like a mix between Dholes and AWDs. I'm pretty sure they lived in Africa, but I'll have to check.
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Post by Hardcastle on Jul 5, 2023 16:54:41 GMT
What is the strongest extinct canid? Perhaps it is epicyon. I heard they were the biggest canids ever. It was definitely something from the Borophaginae subfamily, and likely something from the Epicyon genus. The problem is that whole sub-family is extinct so it's hard to even comprehend what they actually were. They were seemingly almost more bear-like than dog-like.
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