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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2022 1:42:56 GMT
There might be no animal more fragile than a lynx, horrible fighters, hate fighting, only fight each other for mating rights, terrified of everything else that they can't scare off by bluffing. They can not back up their bluffs with anything. A coyote will rush a lynx and kill it if it wants, despite it looking so bad for the coyote when a lynx latches onto it. A coyote will chase down and kill it. They're just so weak and their bones are so fragile etc. etc.
A 60-100lb Eurasian lynx represents a danger for carnivores smaller than it, but otherwise they're subordinate to everything they coexist with besides foxes and similar. A large male raccoon is dominant over a lynx.
They get a lot of baseless hype for an animal that eats hares and is lucky if it can kill a deer.
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Post by Johnson on Nov 30, 2022 4:39:39 GMT
Still better than a shitbull.
Owner admitted that he has been hunting all his life, meaning these are hunting dog.
"I'm from the country, up in east Texas and I've been hunting and playing in the woods all my life...It was definitely a bobcat."
Interesting that
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2022 4:41:08 GMT
Still better than a shitbull. Owner admitted that he has been hunting all his life, meaning these are hunting dog. "I'm from the country, up in east Texas and I've been hunting and playing in the woods all my life...It was definitely a bobcat." Interesting that So why did a saloon owner's 35lb bobcat gets its skull crushed instantly by a 28lb pitbull? Petbulls don't count. Those are not hunting dogs, lol. They're fat and don't even look like catching bulldogs. |
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Post by Johnson on Nov 30, 2022 4:42:33 GMT
a hunting mutt is no match when it does not have a gang or protecttive collars.
As usual, the hunter had to save his goofy mutts otherwise they would have become the Bobcat's breakfast.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2022 4:43:12 GMT
 Jagdterrier beats pitbull, considering they can smoke lynxes. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2022 4:44:23 GMT
A hunting mutt doesn't need a gang or collar ^
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Post by Johnson on Nov 30, 2022 4:45:49 GMT
Jagdterrier beats pitbull, considering they can smoke lynxes. Got to love how the hunter just shows a goofy photo. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2022 4:46:04 GMT
ApexBoy what's going on in the cape leopard thread on carnivora?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2022 4:47:19 GMT
Jagdterrier beats pitbull, considering they can smoke lynxes. Got to love how the hunter just shows a goofy photo. No, it's an amazing photo. That hunter is an expert photographer, he managed to capture it in time before the bobcat died. |
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Post by Johnson on Nov 30, 2022 5:35:08 GMT
Got to love how the hunter just shows a goofy photo. No, it's an amazing photo. That hunter is an expert photographer, he managed to capture it in time before the bobcat died. Too bad he never showed the sequence of events.  By the way, I am not ApexBoy. I am mostly on Quora. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2022 7:55:38 GMT
No, it's an amazing photo. That hunter is an expert photographer, he managed to capture it in time before the bobcat died. Too bad he never showed the sequence of events. By the way, I am not ApexBoy. I am mostly on Quora. He did show the sequence of events though? It's not his job to appease unreasonable extreme skepetics. Oh, okay, so who are you then? A far cry screenshot isn't evidence LMFAO And if it wasn't (and it is) that is a COONHOUND. 1,000,000 bobcats have been killed by coonhounds and no coonhounds have been killed by bobcats. Evidently their offensive abilities are non-existent. |
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Post by Johnson on Nov 30, 2022 9:22:40 GMT
Too bad he never showed the sequence of events. By the way, I am not ApexBoy. I am mostly on Quora. He did show the sequence of events though? It's not his job to appease unreasonable extreme skepetics. Oh, okay, so who are you then? A far cry screenshot isn't evidence LMFAO And if it wasn't (and it is) that is a COONHOUND. 1,000,000 bobcats have been killed by coonhounds and no coonhounds have been killed by bobcats. Evidently their offensive abilities are non-existent. Let's just say I am Chris Farley. First off, I got this while lurking on carnivora.net. No mention that this is from that video game. Hunters never show how their dogs actually can kill a cat without any human help. The closest video of a dog 'owning' a Bobcat was a Hound getting pounded by a Bobcat imgur.com/fLmgMbBimgur.com/fLmgMbBEven the people in the comments section knew that the hunters had to intervene or else the dog would be a new protein bar for the Bobcat.   Good thing the smarter, younger hunters know to just hunt with a bow rather than being all frivolous with some goofy dogs. Without old hunter ramblings and extra protection, these dogs will end up worse than a Saigon Whore on a Monday. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2022 9:40:46 GMT
He did show the sequence of events though? It's not his job to appease unreasonable extreme skepetics. Oh, okay, so who are you then? A far cry screenshot isn't evidence LMFAO And if it wasn't (and it is) that is a COONHOUND. 1,000,000 bobcats have been killed by coonhounds and no coonhounds have been killed by bobcats. Evidently their offensive abilities are non-existent. Let's just say I am Chris Farley. First off, I got this while lurking on carnivora.net. No mention that this is from that video game. Hunters never show how their dogs actually can kill a cat without any human help. The closest video of a dog 'owning' a Bobcat was a Hound getting pounded by a Bobcat imgur.com/fLmgMbBimgur.com/fLmgMbBEven the people in the comments section knew that the hunters had to intervene or else the dog would be a new protein bar for the Bobcat. Good thing the smarter, younger hunters know to just hunt with a bow rather than being all frivolous with some goofy dogs. Without old hunter ramblings and extra protection, these dogs will end up worse than a Saigon Whore on a Monday. Oh wow carnivora, the most reliable source for dogs... not. It's actually the least, and you can be sure everyone on carnivora is either a troll (apexboy) retard (hailey), pussy (fumik) or spineless worm (eyeofthejag). Or all of the above. I don't care if someone didn't call that out, but some guys did: carnivora.net/clouded-leopard-v-gull-terrier-t8025-s30.html''Worse, scenthound, it's ALWAYS a scenthound, the cat is emboldened by the passive anti-violence of the dog, as it is with certain sheltered pampered individual pets (of whatever breed). Cats prey on weakness and vulnerability.'' ''Looks like a videogame screenshot of Far Cry''' Look at the way the player is holding the gun in this video, it's obviously far cry: I actually made a gif of that hound video weeks ago and saw it many months ago, whatever you're showing me is meaningless bullshit I already saw:  |
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Post by Johnson on Nov 30, 2022 10:03:42 GMT
Let's just say I am Chris Farley. First off, I got this while lurking on carnivora.net. No mention that this is from that video game. Hunters never show how their dogs actually can kill a cat without any human help. The closest video of a dog 'owning' a Bobcat was a Hound getting pounded by a Bobcat imgur.com/fLmgMbBimgur.com/fLmgMbBEven the people in the comments section knew that the hunters had to intervene or else the dog would be a new protein bar for the Bobcat. Good thing the smarter, younger hunters know to just hunt with a bow rather than being all frivolous with some goofy dogs. Without old hunter ramblings and extra protection, these dogs will end up worse than a Saigon Whore on a Monday. Oh wow carnivora, the most reliable source for dogs... not. It's actually the least, and you can be sure everyone on carnivora is either a troll (apexboy) retard (hailey), pussy (fumik) or spineless worm (eyeofthejag). Or all of the above. I don't care if someone didn't call that out, but some guys did: carnivora.net/clouded-leopard-v-gull-terrier-t8025-s30.html''Worse, scenthound, it's ALWAYS a scenthound, the cat is emboldened by the passive anti-violence of the dog, as it is with certain sheltered pampered individual pets (of whatever breed). Cats prey on weakness and vulnerability.'' ''Looks like a videogame screenshot of Far Cry''' Look at the way the player is holding the gun in this video, it's obviously far cry: I actually made a gif of that hound video weeks ago and saw it many months ago, whatever you're showing me is meaningless bullshit I already saw: Lol that screenshot looks too realistic to match those game graphics. Carnivora.net is not good but it is one of the few active animal vs. animal forums as of 2022. So there will be a current flow of bad and good information. Is it meaningless if it shows a hunting dog getting beaten up by the Bobcat before the hunter has to help his goofy mutt? Also, nice gif, but it needs the slo-mo part of the video. |
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Post by Hardcastle on Nov 30, 2022 10:52:21 GMT
Doesn't look like a screenshot from a game to me, but does look like dumb shit with scenthounds. The world of scenthounds is bullshit. Scenthounds are EVEN bigger cowards than wild animals, they are nonsense and should never ever be used as a substitute for any other kind of dog. They are fundamentally more different than a catch dog or terrier than the very cat you are arguing for. You can no sooner use a scenthound as a stand in for a catch dog than I can use a scenthound as a stand in for a puma. Imagine if I was like "puma will lose to pitbull, see here what this pitbull did to a coonhound", you'd be like "huh? What does that coonhound have to do with what a puma would do?" and the exact same applies when you try and use a scenthound as a stand in for other types of dogs. They are massively different animals. Dogs are not one animal, they are functionally many vastly different animals, forget that they are the same species, their actual abilities and instincts and morphology and etc etc varies more than the rest of carnivora COMBINED (that's a fact quoted in scientific literature). You can not use different dogs to represent one another. It's just incorrect and wrong to do so.
Sadly pet pitbulls also are not the same animal as working pitbulls, physically they basically are but mentally they are totally different. This makes dog haters be all "oh nice excuse", but they have no hesitation to use the exact same excuse if someone references the pet Lion named "Nero" that got the shit beaten out of it by a couple of 20-30 lbs bulldogs. At one point 1 single 20 lbs bulldog was fucking up nero, the african lion, and making him scream, and that's because being a pampered naive pet is extraordinarily debilitating to the capability of an animal. Far worse than being "abused" or mistreated, that actually keeps an animal a pretty sharp fighter, but a soft pampered "fur baby" is a total decimation of your abilities. As Nero the african lion showed, and as those petbulls show when they get hurt by a bobcat. It's absurd to think a working switched on pitbull would have any problem with a bobcat whatsoever. It's a literal rag in the dogs mouth getting pulverises and thrashed into pieces. A bobcat would never even attempt to go near such a dog, it chose those petbulls because it knew they were naive vulnerable soft targets. Predators "prey", they target weakness, very shrewdly with expert judgement. They don't pick fights with something that can and will fight back well beyond their capabilities.
The only relevant fights we will ever have are with hunting dogs FORCING the fight on non-consenting wild predators, and then you need to make sure you have the right animal. A coonhound is a coonhound, it has nothing to do with catch dogs, it may as well be a 3 toed sloth, it's just entirely irrelevant. It is its own animal, we can discuss "coonhound vs xyz" and that will be it's own discussion. Coonhounds are one thing, catch dogs something else entirely (and they also can be divided into bulldogs and boarhounds), terriers something different again. There are about 17 totally different animals that are "dogs". And then yes we have to combat the "pet factor", that goes equally for dogs and wild animals. A pampered pet doesn't count. An abused pet is better but not ideal. Ideally we need the animal performing the lifestyle that shaped it into what it is. So a puma should be a wild solo stealth hunter living in the americas, and a catch dog should work as a catch dog. That makes them valid representatives of their kind. Even a coonhound, should be a working tracking and baying hound. That won't actually make it a better fighter at all, it's job isn't about fighting (and is actively anti-fighting) however it still is the animal it is and you need that lifestyle to accurately have the animal. Ditto for wild cats, ditto for catch dogs. They need to be living the lifestyle that sculpted their evolution.
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