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Post by Hardcastle on Nov 11, 2022 16:29:38 GMT
Do any of you have coyotes in your neighbourhoods?
I kind of get sick of seeing these urban/suburban coyotes strutting around confidently picking off pets at will and seemingly never having to "pay the piper" by running into the wrong dog. It seems weird that it NEVER happens. You see videos of country dogs killing them, especially in the western "great plains" states, and I bet the coyotes aren't so bold in that part of america, but is it really so rare to have a legit fast dog in urban/suburban areas of west coast, south east, new england, mid west, etc? The coyotes seem super bold. Feral dogs/dingoes in Australia would NEVER push their luck sniffing around town like that, especially in broad daylight. It's almost like Coyotes are better "pariah dogs" than... pariah dogs. Or is it a case of the dogs in urban/suburban America being especially harmless and naive?
Imagine if more people had like pet dogals, for example, I just have a hard time imagining coyotes being so carefree and cocky if that was the case.
Don't get me wrong, full credit to the coyote and you have to admire that it's really "winning" at life over there, but it's just kind of frustrating that they never get got. Lol.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2022 17:11:45 GMT
I live in northern Illinois. We have coyotes that come into the neighborhood at night, I can often hear them calling outside the window.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2022 17:37:46 GMT
No coyotes here in Florida, but in Illinois (Elgin) you can hear them.
It's weird that I've seen florida panthers and bobcats but no coyotes. They've attacked dogs in Port Charlotte which is right next to my city, and I've never seen a coyote here.
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Post by Hardcastle on Nov 11, 2022 18:06:03 GMT
A lot of sources seem to say they came to florida relatively recently, and didn't used to be there (which would also explain why they are still somewhat rare and not necessarily in every "county"). This is interesting because the range of most wild carnivores is receding and getting smaller and smaller, coyotes are expanding their range. They seem really well adapted to humans and civilisation, almost like they are "domesticating".  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2022 20:15:26 GMT
Lol, imagine having domestic coyotes. Would they be like smaller versions of domesticated wolves/dogs?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2022 20:20:25 GMT
Lol, imagine having domestic coyotes. Would they be like smaller versions of domesticated wolves/dogs? They wouldn't be smaller necessarily. The first non-specialized dogs were around 30-60lbs. They'd be tougher to keep, very wild and smart, if coydogs are anything to go off of. |
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Post by lincoln on Nov 11, 2022 21:10:33 GMT
Do any of you have coyotes in your neighbourhoods? I kind of get sick of seeing these urban/suburban coyotes strutting around confidently picking off pets at will and seemingly never having to "pay the piper" by running into the wrong dog. It seems weird that it NEVER happens. You see videos of country dogs killing them, especially in the western "great plains" states, and I bet the coyotes aren't so bold in that part of america, but is it really so rare to have a legit fast dog in urban/suburban areas of west coast, south east, new england, mid west, etc? The coyotes seem super bold. Feral dogs/dingoes in Australia would NEVER push their luck sniffing around town like that, especially in broad daylight. It's almost like Coyotes are better "pariah dogs" than... pariah dogs. Or is it a case of the dogs in urban/suburban America being especially harmless and naive? Imagine if more people had like pet dogals, for example, I just have a hard time imagining coyotes being so carefree and cocky if that was the case. Don't get me wrong, full credit to the coyote and you have to admire that it's really "winning" at life over there, but it's just kind of frustrating that they never get got. Lol. There are a lot of coyotes where I live, I hear them often. Once I was taking care of my chickens and I heard one super close to the coop and while I was doing it I heard footsteps around me so I think one or a few were watching me. I’ve also heard something big climb the chicken coop fence only for my dogs to run to the coop and when I went to see what it was it was gone. I also have a lot raccoons, some owls and someone near us even claims they saw a cougar |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2022 22:38:19 GMT
Do any of you have coyotes in your neighbourhoods? I kind of get sick of seeing these urban/suburban coyotes strutting around confidently picking off pets at will and seemingly never having to "pay the piper" by running into the wrong dog. It seems weird that it NEVER happens. You see videos of country dogs killing them, especially in the western "great plains" states, and I bet the coyotes aren't so bold in that part of america, but is it really so rare to have a legit fast dog in urban/suburban areas of west coast, south east, new england, mid west, etc? The coyotes seem super bold. Feral dogs/dingoes in Australia would NEVER push their luck sniffing around town like that, especially in broad daylight. It's almost like Coyotes are better "pariah dogs" than... pariah dogs. Or is it a case of the dogs in urban/suburban America being especially harmless and naive? Imagine if more people had like pet dogals, for example, I just have a hard time imagining coyotes being so carefree and cocky if that was the case. Don't get me wrong, full credit to the coyote and you have to admire that it's really "winning" at life over there, but it's just kind of frustrating that they never get got. Lol. There are a lot of coyotes where I live, I hear them often. Once I was taking care of my chickens and I heard one super close to the coop and while I was doing it I heard footsteps around me so I think one or a few were watching me. I’ve also heard something big climb the chicken coop fence only for my dogs to run to the coop and when I went to see what it was it was gone. I also have a lot raccoons, some owls and someone near us even claims they saw a cougar You should strap a gopro to your dogs and set them to protect the chicken coop at night, see what's out there. |
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Post by Hardcastle on Nov 11, 2022 22:39:11 GMT
Lol, imagine having domestic coyotes. Would they be like smaller versions of domesticated wolves/dogs? They wouldn't be smaller necessarily. The first non-specialized dogs were around 30-60lbs. They'd be tougher to keep, very wild and smart, if coydogs are anything to go off of. They are already adapted to a pariah dog/jackal niche, a size change wouldn't be necessary, until or unless they started branching out into specialised roles. |
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Post by Hardcastle on Nov 11, 2022 22:40:29 GMT
Do any of you have coyotes in your neighbourhoods? I kind of get sick of seeing these urban/suburban coyotes strutting around confidently picking off pets at will and seemingly never having to "pay the piper" by running into the wrong dog. It seems weird that it NEVER happens. You see videos of country dogs killing them, especially in the western "great plains" states, and I bet the coyotes aren't so bold in that part of america, but is it really so rare to have a legit fast dog in urban/suburban areas of west coast, south east, new england, mid west, etc? The coyotes seem super bold. Feral dogs/dingoes in Australia would NEVER push their luck sniffing around town like that, especially in broad daylight. It's almost like Coyotes are better "pariah dogs" than... pariah dogs. Or is it a case of the dogs in urban/suburban America being especially harmless and naive? Imagine if more people had like pet dogals, for example, I just have a hard time imagining coyotes being so carefree and cocky if that was the case. Don't get me wrong, full credit to the coyote and you have to admire that it's really "winning" at life over there, but it's just kind of frustrating that they never get got. Lol. There are a lot of coyotes where I live, I hear them often. Once I was taking care of my chickens and I heard one super close to the coop and while I was doing it I heard footsteps around me so I think one or a few were watching me. I’ve also heard something big climb the chicken coop fence only for my dogs to run to the coop and when I went to see what it was it was gone. I also have a lot raccoons, some owls and someone near us even claims they saw a cougar What state? I agree with Tristan you need to get that bully onto those little shits. |
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Post by lincoln on Nov 11, 2022 23:50:49 GMT
There are a lot of coyotes where I live, I hear them often. Once I was taking care of my chickens and I heard one super close to the coop and while I was doing it I heard footsteps around me so I think one or a few were watching me. I’ve also heard something big climb the chicken coop fence only for my dogs to run to the coop and when I went to see what it was it was gone. I also have a lot raccoons, some owls and someone near us even claims they saw a cougar What state? I agree with Tristan you need to get that bully onto those little shits. Washington, maybe I should do that, the Guapo and Ben could definitively take a coyote, especially if they work together |
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Post by lincoln on Nov 11, 2022 23:52:53 GMT
There are a lot of coyotes where I live, I hear them often. Once I was taking care of my chickens and I heard one super close to the coop and while I was doing it I heard footsteps around me so I think one or a few were watching me. I’ve also heard something big climb the chicken coop fence only for my dogs to run to the coop and when I went to see what it was it was gone. I also have a lot raccoons, some owls and someone near us even claims they saw a cougar You should strap a gopro to your dogs and set them to protect the chicken coop at night, see what's out there. If I do that I hope that if the person actually did see a cougar that’s not what’s there, my dogs would probably run up on it thinking they are tough |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2022 0:10:09 GMT
You should strap a gopro to your dogs and set them to protect the chicken coop at night, see what's out there. If I do that I hope that if the person actually did see a cougar that’s not what’s there, my dogs would probably run up on it thinking they are tough If the dogs do run up on it the cougar will run away. If it does end up in a bit of a fight, you should only be concerned if it can kill the Ambully quickly (it can't), then obviously the other little pit mix is doomed. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2022 2:27:18 GMT
They’re the largest predators in my area. I occasionally see them near the road every now and then. Here’s one I encountered in the woods a couple years ago-  |
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Post by Hardcastle on Nov 12, 2022 9:36:53 GMT
If I do that I hope that if the person actually did see a cougar that’s not what’s there, my dogs would probably run up on it thinking they are tough If the dogs do run up on it the cougar will run away. If it does end up in a bit of a fight, you should only be concerned if it can kill the Ambully quickly (it can't), then obviously the other little pit mix is doomed. All you have to worry about are the cougars your dogs DON'T see. Ambush attacks on your sleeping oblivious dogs. That is a possible risk for even a fairly strong dog. If they see one and run towards it, it will just run away and evade them, probably pretty easily. If you had a dog that could actually CATCH the cougar and FORCE it in to fight despite it's desire to flee, THEN you may have some serious vet bills to worry about. |
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