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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2023 14:54:24 GMT
The dog doesn't always have to win lol Bolushi. No one's going to kill you for favouring an animal that isn't "dog". Just so you know. Sent from my SM-A105FN using Tapatalk It wouldn't win but also would never in a million years get caught. A Collie that sees a snake and knows it's there will never get bitten by it. Not even a black mamba, let alone a gigantic constrictor. No chance in hell. Shut up. Just. Just shut up. Sent from my SM-A105FN using Tapatalk |
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Post by CoolJohnson on May 7, 2023 17:32:21 GMT
Lurchers and herders can handle constrictors. Put a 32kg Border Collie against a 170kg Python and tell me what happens. Sent from my SM-A105FN using Tapatalk Dogs or canids almost always lose to constrictor snakes. |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2023 23:02:16 GMT
The dog doesn't always have to win lol Bolushi. No one's going to kill you for favouring an animal that isn't "dog". Just so you know. Sent from my SM-A105FN using Tapatalk It wouldn't win but also would never in a million years get caught. A Collie that sees a snake and knows it's there will never get bitten by it. Not even a black mamba, let alone a gigantic constrictor. No chance in hell. This is true, Border Collies seem very quick evaders due to their light build, unlike most other herders. I have seen Heelers kill snakes pretty easily, although their evading skills are questionable. |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2023 23:11:52 GMT
Put a 32kg Border Collie against a 170kg Python and tell me what happens. Sent from my SM-A105FN using Tapatalk Dogs or wild canids almost always lose to constrictor snakes. Wolves are meh in catching snakes, thats because their build is not too or less evasive, not too much or too less jumpy and their build is not too much or too less of either. I believe a Indian Wolf or a Himalayan wolf, even though both at different sizes could fend against a snake well. The Indian Wolf has a lighter and smaller build than most wolves, and they haven’t really changed much from a Jackal. The Himalayan wolf is bigger and looking at images of them, they seem pretty working husky-like in appearance and build. But their build is fast and could be pretty evasive given a snake launched at them. I believe NW/Mackenzie wolves would face the same fate as gripping dogs though. Mainly due to the fact they are so large and their evasive skills don’t seem all that impressive at all. As for herders, the Pastoral herders are smaller and lighter than wolves therefore they seem to have the upper hand in evasion. Hardcastle@ling Bolushi |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2023 23:18:03 GMT
It wouldn't win but also would never in a million years get caught. A Collie that sees a snake and knows it's there will never get bitten by it. Not even a black mamba, let alone a gigantic constrictor. No chance in hell. Shut up. Just. Just shut up. Sent from my SM-A105FN using Tapatalk Its true. Even if the dog didn’t win, its extremely rare a Border Collie would die from that. Border Collies have impressive evasive skills, and therefore it would seem they could evade the snake pretty quickly, then go back or leave, the first one being more common. |
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Post by CoolJohnson on May 8, 2023 4:30:44 GMT
Dogs or wild canids almost always lose to constrictor snakes. Wolves are meh in catching snakes, thats because their build is not too or less evasive, not too much or too less jumpy and their build is not too much or too less of either. I believe a Indian Wolf or a Himalayan wolf, even though both at different sizes could fend against a snake well. The Indian Wolf has a lighter and smaller build than most wolves, and they haven’t really changed much from a Jackal. The Himalayan wolf is bigger and looking at images of them, they seem pretty working husky-like in appearance and build. But their build is fast and could be pretty evasive given a snake launched at them. I believe NW/Mackenzie wolves would face the same fate as gripping dogs though. Mainly due to the fact they are so large and their evasive skills don’t seem all that impressive at all. As for herders, the Pastoral herders are smaller and lighter than wolves therefore they seem to have the upper hand in evasion. Hardcastle@ling BolushiSmaller canids might be able to evade a canid for sometime, but they won't be able to escape like a grappling animal if the snake coils around them. This dingo was caught by a python.  |
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Post by Hardcastle on May 8, 2023 9:08:41 GMT
Wolves are meh in catching snakes, thats because their build is not too or less evasive, not too much or too less jumpy and their build is not too much or too less of either. I believe a Indian Wolf or a Himalayan wolf, even though both at different sizes could fend against a snake well. The Indian Wolf has a lighter and smaller build than most wolves, and they haven’t really changed much from a Jackal. The Himalayan wolf is bigger and looking at images of them, they seem pretty working husky-like in appearance and build. But their build is fast and could be pretty evasive given a snake launched at them. I believe NW/Mackenzie wolves would face the same fate as gripping dogs though. Mainly due to the fact they are so large and their evasive skills don’t seem all that impressive at all. As for herders, the Pastoral herders are smaller and lighter than wolves therefore they seem to have the upper hand in evasion. Hardcastle@ling BolushiSmaller canids might be able to evade a canid for sometime, but they won't be able to escape like a grappling animal if the snake coils around them. This dingo was caught by a python. There are two ways it could have been caught. 1 is ambush, 2 is overzealous attack gone wrong. In the case of a dingo, probably the latter. It's possible. But generally speaking, with canids attacking constrictor snakes, it's mostly canids killing and eating constrictor snakes. Foxes and dingoes both absolutely smash them. The old "predation attempt backfiring and you get strangled" is a hazard for the jaguar as well, but mostly it just kills and eats constrictor snakes. That's the norm. I actually see first hand in my local area, not uncommonly, chunks of constrictor that were fucked up by foxes and dingoes. |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2023 9:46:03 GMT
Smaller canids might be able to evade a canid for sometime, but they won't be able to escape like a grappling animal if the snake coils around them. This dingo was caught by a python. There are two ways it could have been caught. 1 is ambush, 2 is overzealous attack gone wrong. In the case of a dingo, probably the latter. It's possible. But generally speaking, with canids attacking constrictor snakes, it's mostly canids killing and eating constrictor snakes. Foxes and dingoes both absolutely smash them. The old "predation attempt backfiring and you get strangled" is a hazard for the jaguar as well, but mostly it just kills and eats constrictor snakes. That's the norm. I actually see first hand in my local area, not uncommonly, chunks of constrictor that were fucked up by foxes and dingoes. Yes but you're comparing your local snakes to a sun bear-eating python. Sent from my SM-A105FN using Tapatalk |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2023 9:51:44 GMT
There are two ways it could have been caught. 1 is ambush, 2 is overzealous attack gone wrong. In the case of a dingo, probably the latter. It's possible. But generally speaking, with canids attacking constrictor snakes, it's mostly canids killing and eating constrictor snakes. Foxes and dingoes both absolutely smash them. The old "predation attempt backfiring and you get strangled" is a hazard for the jaguar as well, but mostly it just kills and eats constrictor snakes. That's the norm. I actually see first hand in my local area, not uncommonly, chunks of constrictor that were fucked up by foxes and dingoes. Yes but you're comparing your local snakes to a sun bear-eating python. Sent from my SM-A105FN using Tapatalk  Sent from my SM-A105FN using Tapatalk |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2023 9:52:09 GMT
Smaller pythons have also killed hyenas as well I guess...  Sent from my SM-A105FN using Tapatalk |
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Post by Hardcastle on May 8, 2023 10:01:54 GMT
Sun bears and Hyenas have exactly zero evasive capabilities. |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2023 10:16:49 GMT
Sun bears and Hyenas have exactly zero evasive capabilities. Too bad lol. A Border Collie isn't doing shit if a Sun Bear can't do shit. Simple as that. Stop living in your fantasy world where dogs can maul and fuck up the largest land predators single-handedly with their sweet and super dodging and maneuverability skills like some video game. It just isn't happening and you know it. Sent from my SM-A105FN using Tapatalk |
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Post by Hardcastle on May 8, 2023 12:00:37 GMT
Sun bears and Hyenas have exactly zero evasive capabilities. Too bad lol. A Border Collie isn't doing shit if a Sun Bear can't do shit. Simple as that. Stop living in your fantasy world where dogs can maul and fuck up the largest land predators single-handedly with their sweet and super dodging and maneuverability skills like some video game. It just isn't happening and you know it. Sent from my SM-A105FN using Tapatalk Frankly no one gives a shit. Losing to a snake is like falling into a pit of tar, it doesn't even count as an animal. It's weird that you bring them up. BUT, also, yes... snakes can't catch canids that don't want to be caught. They are too dumb and too slow. |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2023 12:17:34 GMT
Too bad lol. A Border Collie isn't doing shit if a Sun Bear can't do shit. Simple as that. Stop living in your fantasy world where dogs can maul and fuck up the largest land predators single-handedly with their sweet and super dodging and maneuverability skills like some video game. It just isn't happening and you know it. Sent from my SM-A105FN using Tapatalk Frankly no one gives a shit. Losing to a snake is like falling into a pit of tar, it doesn't even count as an animal. It's weird that you bring them up. BUT, also, yes... snakes can't catch canids that don't want to be caught. They are too dumb and too slow. Did I hurt you Antonio? Sent from my SM-A105FN using Tapatalk |
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Post by Bolushi on May 8, 2023 13:44:26 GMT
Sun bears and Hyenas have exactly zero evasive capabilities. Too bad lol. A Border Collie isn't doing shit if a Sun Bear can't do shit. Simple as that. Stop living in your fantasy world where dogs can maul and fuck up the largest land predators single-handedly with their sweet and super dodging and maneuverability skills like some video game. It just isn't happening and you know it. Sent from my SM-A105FN using Tapatalk If a jaguar can't catch a cur who is getting close enough to nip it then we can throw away the idea of a constrictor doing that. |
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