The Vindolanda Dog Study is fake. Attention everyone.

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The chart is fake. Its made up and all the ‘data’ presented in this chart is completely wrong.
There’s ironically a peer reviewed paper called ‘Forelimb Indicators of Prey Size in Felidae’ which shows that Tigers have proportionally more robust humerus than Lions and also that Snow Leopards have proportionally more robust humerus than Leopards. The same study also shows that Snow Leopards, Leopards, Lions and Tigers all have proportionally more robust humerus than Pumas. This is the real data from the study, and is the true full study.
www.researchgate.net/publication/23720916_Forelimb_Indicators_of_Prey-Size_Preference_in_the_Felidae
Hardcastle Bolushi  CoolJohnson lincoln @hammerhead @ajay Musth
Bolushi

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Lol, you fucking dumbass. The study doesn't even talk about felines.

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Feb 6, 2023 16:39:15 GMT Bolushi said:

Lol, you fucking dumbass. The study doesn't even talk about felines.

Well yes but thats where the study from come. It essentially says all the same shit.

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Feb 6, 2023 16:41:13 GMT Wyatt said:

Feb 6, 2023 16:39:15 GMT Bolushi said:

Lol, you fucking dumbass. The study doesn't even talk about felines.

Well yes but thats where the study from come. It essentially says all the same shit.

Did you suffer encephalon injuries as a child?
Also you think fucking coyotes kill cattle?!

Now you get your dick hard for felines despite being a georgian country redneck. You're 23, what do you do for a living? You literally lied for months about random dogs your cousin's cousin has a Kangal or whatever and when I asked for pictures you sent me TikTok videos.
I don't know how in the world you come up with this shit.
Now, I suggest you STFU until you know what you're talking about.
Guys, this raccoon vs raccoon dog study is fake! www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6737712/
This study proves it: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3999603/

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How does Domain Of The Bears have over 50,000 posts with 41 members, while we have over 8,000 posts with 31 members. Have they been around for a lot longer?

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Feb 6, 2023 17:07:54 GMT @ling said:

How does Domain Of The Bears have over 50,000 posts with 41 members, while we have over 8,000 posts with 31 members. Have they been around for a lot longer?

Yeah, it has been around for a lot longer. I can't check because I'm banned but it has been around for like 2-3 years.
Fun fact: Half of our 31 members don't actually post anything. And the other half does. Some joined and didn't post, others were carnivora members who hate us anyway. 8,000 posts is pretty good considering we've existed for under 4 months.

[Hardcastle]

Everyone gather round, Wyatt did a take.

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Feb 6, 2023 16:57:14 GMT Bolushi said:

Feb 6, 2023 16:41:13 GMT Wyatt said:

Well yes but thats where the study from come. It essentially says all the same shit.

Did you suffer encephalon injuries as a child?
Also you think fucking coyotes kill cattle?!

Now you get your dick hard for felines despite being a georgian country redneck. You're 23, what do you do for a living? You literally lied for months about random dogs your cousin's cousin has a Kangal or whatever and when I asked for pictures you sent me TikTok videos.
I don't know how in the world you come up with this shit.
Now, I suggest you STFU until you know what you're talking about.
Guys, this raccoon vs raccoon dog study is fake! www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6737712/
This study proves it: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3999603/

Bolushi, Hardcastle, CoolJohnson, @ajay, this was a joke thread. It was an argument that someone made on Bolushi’s old Reddit post. This is not a take I made on my own.

And my response to the Labs, I said that because they would have no reason to be more or less robust than wolves. They are “average” in build so to say.

Coyotes can take cattle, but I was wrong, not adult cattle. Mostly some calf they split off from the main herd or gangbanging a weak ass cow. Wolves and dogs can take down cattle.

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Labs and other retriever's (excluding perhaps duck tolling) are solidly built. Not because they need to be in order to retrieve ducks (I don't think), but because they incidentally descend from mastiffs being crossed with bird dogs as early as the 1400s. Why they did this is a bit of a mystery, but it's recorded that they did.

A mastiff is a manner of hound. The mastiff's nature and his office is to keep his master's beasts and his master's house, and it is a good kind of hound, for they keep and defend with all their power all their master's goods. They be of a churlish nature and ugly shape. Nevertheless there are some that come to be berslettis (168), and also to bring well and fast and wanlace (range) about (169). Sometimes there be many good, especially for men who hunt for profit of the household to get flesh. Also of mastiffs and alaunts there be (bred) many good for the wild boar. Also from mastiffs and hounds for the hawk (there be bred) hounds that men should not make much mention of, therefore I will no more speak of them, for there is no great mastery nor great readiness in the hunting that they do, for their nature is not to be tenderly nosed.

168 Bercellettis or bercelettes, hounds, most likely shooting dogs, from berser, to shoot, bercel, an archer's butt.

169 Wanlasour, one who drives game. Appendix: Wanlace.

The Master of Game by Edward the Second Duke of York

There are some other mentions in the 1500s how "spaniels" of the water need to be "big of body". It seems they would achieve this goal with mastiff crossings. These dogs would come to the bays around Maryland/Delaware, Nova Scotia, Labrador and Newfoundland around the 1600s, and from there the "retriever family" were born.

And the genes correlate with that also.

Possibly it was to make dogs more resilient to swimming in icey water? Being just a bit bulkier than bird dogs typically are might help stave off hypothermia and frostbite? Robusticity can have other advantages other than grappling with dangerous animals or enduring damage.
Maybe also helped add a certain calm placidity that would allow them to sit around waiting to retrieve. Not sure. But the end result is retrievers are bulky due to mastiff infusion they were subjected to for centuries. Not for fighting purposes. It's most obvious ofcourse in the newfoundland, but really all of them (again save for the nova scotia duck tolling) have subtle hints of mastiff, especially when you contrast them with the diminutive bird dogs they descend from.

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This is some very saddening news. I don't think I'l be able to sleep tonight after hearing about this. Cheers Wyatt.