What’s your top 10 favorite breeds of dog?

[Musth]

I like this bull lurcher from Cali catchers. 

[Musth]

Feb 5, 2023 12:07:27 GMT Wyatt said:

Feb 5, 2023 11:27:44 GMT Musth said:

Lol where did you hear that one? People in the states run coyotes with American Staghounds all the time(basically a hybrid of greyhound, deerhound, wolfhound, etc). Also the Tazi in khaziktan run small wolf all the time(mostly jackals actually). Both these dogs run the canines down and dispatch the canines on their own, usually in a small pack but one or two dogs can get it done as well. But it’s more challenging for the dog and gives a high chance for the dog to be injured. 




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I know that they can hunt coyotes, thats undeniable. But when I hear “canine hunting” that means like wolves and foxes.

A coyote isn’t a canine? A fox isn’t a canine? 

[Musth]

 
Two jagd terriers and a Staghound on a Coyote. 

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German sheperd and bulldog.

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Feb 5, 2023 10:44:50 GMT Musth said:

Feb 5, 2023 6:05:18 GMT Bolushi said:

Are you that guy named ''P'' on youtube? He literally just brought Tazi dogs to my attention and seemed smart.

Yep that’s me lol. I do like breeds but I prefer to separate dogs by groups or types as well. 

Here’s my top 5 favourite type of working dogs in order:

1.LGD 
2.Versatile Hunting dogs (Airedale, drahthaars, some hard pointers)
3. Terriers (earthwork hunting dogs, a jagd falls in between 2 and 3) 
4. sighthounds (coursing sighthounds, I like coyote and canine hunting dogs) 
5. fighting breeds (apbt, tosa, BK, a few others there is hardly any true fighting breeds bred to fight) 


I like many of these Australian pig dogs and hunting dogs I see online highly functional and useful. 

But like I said I like all working dogs and the useful ones. I don’t tend to try to judge by breed so much. If I’m being honest. A lot of the time I will prefer a good mix over a purebred. 

Would you put Rhodesian Ridgebacks in the same boat as an Airedale Terrier?

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Feb 5, 2023 6:42:52 GMT Hardcastle said:

Feb 5, 2023 6:33:08 GMT @dorado said:

I like cute dogs igView AttachmentView AttachmentView AttachmentView Attachment Anyone who doesn't must have a very cold heart

I like tigers with Down's syndrome.

good for you

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Feb 5, 2023 6:42:11 GMT Bolushi said:

Feb 5, 2023 6:33:08 GMT @dorado said:

I like cute dogs igView AttachmentView AttachmentView AttachmentView Attachment Anyone who doesn't must have a very cold heart

Well, the local foxes will throw you a few dollars for the high quality meal.

You don't keep your dogs indoors?

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Feb 5, 2023 11:04:28 GMT Musth said:

Feb 5, 2023 6:30:59 GMT Hardcastle said:

I'll do the "big 3" Kennel clubs-

The Kennel Club (UK)

1. Deerhound
2. Wolfhound
3. Greyhound
4. English Bull terrier
5. Bullmastiff
6. Old English Sheepdog
7. Shar Pei
8. Bouvier Des Flandres
9. Airedale
10. Foxhound

Honorable mentions- Wheaten terrier, Rhodesian Ridgeback, Sloughi, Whippet, Australian cattle dog.


American Kennel Club (USA)

1. Dogo Argentino
2. Scottish deerhound
3. Irish Wolfhound
4. Presa Canario
5. Greyhound
6. EBT
7. Tosa
8. Kelpie
9. bullmastiff
10. American Bulldog

Honorable mentions - Old english Sheepdog, Shar pei, Karelian Bear dog, Jagdterrier, Stumpy tailed cattle


United Kennel Club (USA)

1. Dogo Argentino
2. Scottish Deerhound
3. Irish Wolfhound
4. Presa Canario
5. English Greyhound
6. Spanish Greyhound
7. EBT
8. Tosa
9. Kelpie
10. Bullmastiff

Honorable mentions - American bulldog, APBT, Old english sheepdog, Karelian Bear, Patterdale

Ignoring kennel clubs

1. Bullstag
2. Galgo patagonico
3. Bull arab
4. Dogal Barbucho
5. Bull lurcher (uk)
6. Maritsane
7. American Staghound
8. Australian Staghound
9. Dogo Argentino
10. Bullwolfhound

Deerhound, Alano Espanol, McCallum Cow dog, Bully grey

All time "Immortal" favourites (in order of time rather than preference)

• Ancient wolfhound/celtic war dog (northwest europe and later across roman empire, 1000 bc - 400 ad)
• Ancient scythian/alani catch dog (eurasian steppe before moving in to roman empire, 900 BC -  1 ad)
• Ancient greek gripping dogs; molossian, arcarnanian, pherae, azorus, etc (Epirus region of Greece/Albania, transferred across ancient rome, 400 bc - 10ad)   
• Roman era british bulldogs/boarhounds (british origin, spread across Roman empire 55 bc - 400 ad)
• Alaunt Boucheries/Medieval bulldog (500 ad - 1600s europe)
• Alaunt gentil/medieval boarhound (500 ad - 1600s europe)
• Conquistador war-dogs/boarhound and wolfhound in type (1600s-1914, Iberian/global)
• Colonial boarhounds/bloodhounds (late 1700s-1914 british/global)
• Colonial wolfhounds/staghounds (late 1700s-1914 british/global)
• Victorian era/"Beautiful epoch" fighting/baiting bulldog (england/france/spain to global/colonial 1700s -1914)
• Victorian era/beautiful epoch bandogs, night dogs and bullmastiffs (england/france/spain 1700s - 1914)
• Post war recreated boarhounds, wolfhounds, staghounds, lurchers and bulldogs (Argentina, Australia, New Zealand, USA, South Africa, UK, 1940s-present).

Are those maritsane dogs the same as boergreyhounds in Africa? Are they a line that is used for bigger game? I think I read about them taking down hyenas. But I haven’t seen any evidence on that(not that I have looked). 

Here's a brown hyena amongst a Boergrey kill pile:

Here's a pic of his Boergrey pack, note all of his dogs according to him can handle themselves on their own:

He runs Boergrey x Airedale dogs too that you can see.

Testimony:
''Pomma

The interesting thing about African animals is that each animal should be handled in a different way. If the dog do not learn quick he is history.

Aardwolf, brown hyena, jackal, the dog should go for the throat.

Porcupine he should not rush in, wait for his change and grab the head.

Wartog, two big Maritsanes can take the ears, but small greyhound will hold it above the tail or on the hind leg. If near the head and he cant hold the ear, he is dead.

Small buck and antelope the throat.

Big bucks or if you work cattle, the nose.

Baboon, the dog should circle , go in one bite on throat and get out of his way, circle again, go in and out again....ware him down and try to rip out his air pipe ( open up his throat). If he just go in the baboon will rip him in pieces with his hands and legs. Very difficult to learn. Bully's normally get killed...you need very intelligent dog that is not afraid.

Once you have a dog that can catch anything, money can not buy him...

Cheers

David''

www.ozziedoggers.com.au/forum/index.php?/topic/816-more-dogs/

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Feb 5, 2023 22:04:42 GMT @dorado said:

Feb 5, 2023 6:42:11 GMT Bolushi said:

Well, the local foxes will throw you a few dollars for the high quality meal.

You don't keep your dogs indoors?

Why should they have to be kept indoors for them to not die?

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Feb 5, 2023 22:17:14 GMT Bolushi said:

Feb 5, 2023 22:04:42 GMT @dorado said:

You don't keep your dogs indoors?

Why should they have to be kept indoors for them to not die?

So they don't get random diseases/pesticides, hurt native wildlife, get hit by a car, eat something they shouldn't, get into a fight with another dog, get infected by fight wounds etc...

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Feb 5, 2023 22:32:08 GMT @dorado said:

Feb 5, 2023 22:17:14 GMT Bolushi said:

Why should they have to be kept indoors for them to not die?

So they don't get random diseases/pesticides, hurt native wildlife, get hit by a car, eat something they shouldn't, get into a fight with another dog, get infected by fight wounds etc...

Oh, didn't know ''outdoors'' means throwing them in the forest.

[Hardcastle]

Feb 5, 2023 12:03:28 GMT Musth said:

I really do like the Galgo Patagonicos. Maybe I would add it to my list of “breeds” if I seen it worked more and more evidence of it doing it. I really like the looks of them. They really do look like an original wolfhound. I wonder if they could run other game, like coyote, rabbits, and fox? Or more so for the wild boar? I seen a couple post pictures with them and dead rabbits so I could assume so but who knows.

Well there's "can do it" and then "can do it consistently and efficiently". 

Technically feral dogs can catch hares, which are far more difficult than rabbits, and feral dogs are far below GPs in the art of the pursuit. But no one serious about catching hares would use a GP (let alone a feral dog), in fact people serious about catching hares usually wouldn't even use staghounds.

They use english greyhounds, spanish greyhounds and whippets. MAYBE salukis but usually crossed with greyhound. IMO the spanish greyhound may actually be the most elite hare coursing dog, but english greys and whippets are right there also. 

Fox, they could definitely catch them, but are they ideal? Probably the staghound is IDEAL for fox, the deer x grey is the perfect fox dog. And I would also say the perfect coyote dog (and side note- perfect kangaroo dog, and perfect deer dog, great at rabbits too which are much easier than hares  - it's arguably one of the most versatile coursing dogs to ever exist and indeed helped settle a few continents by filling the pot for pioneers).
 
GPs and maritsane would be the perfect wolf dog, even though don't forget the greyhound is also historically very well versed in wolves as are staghounds, but most efficient and consistent with best results? I'd go for that bigger wolfhound type. Funnily enough (clue in the name). Evidently also good for hyena, and pretty good with cats. 

They also make great boar dogs, only a tiny breath away from being as ideal as boarhounds. Optimal boarhounds actually starting to shrink in height but bulk up a little (and also slow down a little). Dogos, bull arabs, dogals and bullstags are optimal boarhounds.

I always find it interesting and worth mentioning we used to also have an "optimal man dog", and they were the biggest of all high performance functional hunting dogs.
They called them "bloodhounds" (no relation to the st huberts hound variety, not a scenthound at all), and they're best represented today by dogs like bully kuttas, great danes, bullwolfhounds, fila brasileiros and Ohalloran hounds. Even arguably the taller tosas.
 
 I'm not saying these are bloodhounds (though the fila really was), but by build they are closest to what bloodhounds were. And similar breeding too, they just bred big boarhounds and blooded them to view humans as prey.

These bloodhounds could still be used as boarhounds, and were especially common in boar and panther hunting crosses to harden up lines.
 Bloodhound x deerhound, bloodhound x greyhound or even bloodhound x foxhound was very common in the 1800s for hunting large stags, leopards and boars. And again, don't get confused by the word "bloodhound", they were just huge man-hunting boarhounds with a bullmastiff/large sighthound base. 
When reading 1800s literature you have to look for the clues to understand what they mean when they say bloodhound. 
EG-

with a few couple of immense seizers, a cross between bloodhound and greyhound

So this wouldn't really make sense if they meant "bloodhounds" as we know them. Why would bloodhound x greyhound make an "immense seizer" ? Seizer meaning hard-lugger. No the bloodhound they are referring to is a giant man-subjugating boarhound. 

Perhaps most notoriously used on slaves in the carribean -



But used all over-

The first who answers to the magic call is 'Smut,' hero of at least 400 deaths of elk and boar. He appears the same well-remembered form of strength, the sullen growl which greeted even his master, the numerous scars and seams upon his body; behold old Smut! His sire was a Manilla blood-hound, which accounted for the extreme ferocity of the son. His courage was indomitable. He was a large dog, but not high, considering his great length, but his limbs were immense in proportion. His height at the shoulder was 26 1/2 inches; his girth of brisket 34 inches. In his younger days he always opened upon a scent, and the rocky mountains and deep valleys have often echoed back his deep notes which have now, like himself, passed away. As he grew older he became cunning, and he ran entirely mute, knowing well that the more noise the elk heard behind him the faster he would run. I have frequently known him to be out by himself all night, and return the next morning blown out with food which he had procured for himself by pulling down a doe single-handed. When he was a young dog, and gave tongue upon a scent, a challenge was offered, but never accepted, that the dog should find, hunt, and pull down two buck elk, single-handed, within a fortnight, assisted only by his master, with no other weapon than a hunting-knife; there is no doubt whatever that he would have performed it easily. He then belonged to Lieutenant Pardoe, of the 15th Regiment.He had several pitched battles with leopards, from which he has returned frightfully torn, but with his yellow hair bristled up, his head and stern erect; and his deep growl, with which he gave a dubious reception to both man and beast, was on these occasions doubly threatening.

Both quotes from-www.gutenberg.org/files/3231/3231-h/3231-h.htm

So again the bloodhound component is directly attributed with making the dog large and formidable, and also it's a "manila bloodhound", meaning one he sourced from the philippines (and was using in Sri Lanka, also talks about having Australian seizers, the whole book is a fantastic read).

Evidently the Spanish had bloodhounds in the philippines which they used no doubt to subjugate and terrorise the natives. 

It was a widespread thing, and it's just funny to me that humans, out of all dangerous game, required the biggest dog.
Boars and wolves the second biggest (slightly differently proportioned but somewhat similar in ultimate weight), then elk/stags, then foxes, coyotes, etc. Then Rabbits and hares.... then, finally the smallest dog (weighing most often 25-45 lbs, but sometimes 60 up to 90+ if they were freaks) was for the biggest quarry- the bull. Often also used on bears. Though boarhounds were used on bears quite a bit too, and bulls sometimes. And bulldogs often used on boars, and bloodhounds often used on boars. Staghounds and wolfhounds too. And as mentioned greyhounds and staghounds can make wolf-dogs. Everything is flexible and overlaps with blurry boundaries, but this is the general guide. 

To your original point, the wolfhound design CAN catch all sorts of things, rabbit up through bull, with varying degrees of success. They are optimised for wolf and near-enough optimised for boar. A little slow for deer generally speaking but could pull off catches on them here and there, just not up to the standards of a guy who is very serious about catching deer with a good success rate, for that you'd have a racier dog (more like a deerhound or staghound).

[CoolJohnson]

As a paranormal expert who likes to purchase cursed items and creatures that can end my life, my favorite pooch is Satan's dog, which is the pitbull.



Lol jk.


On a more serious note here are the following breeds I like (not in any order):

Border Collie
Pointer Dogs
Greyhound
Spitz Breed
Rat Terrier
Foxhound
Jack Russell Terrier
Fox Terrier

I guess as any dog breed that can take care of a rat infestation.

[Hardcastle]

Feb 5, 2023 22:32:08 GMT @dorado said:

Feb 5, 2023 22:17:14 GMT Bolushi said:

Why should they have to be kept indoors for them to not die?

So they don't get random diseases/pesticides, hurt native wildlife, get hit by a car, eat something they shouldn't, get into a fight with another dog, get infected by fight wounds etc...

Think of all the things that could happen to you if you go outside-

You could get herpes, you could get raped, you could get struck by lightning, you might even rape someone else, you might step in a dogshit, you might fall over and get an iron rod lodged in your anus, you might have acid thrown in your face by an indian guy who mistakes you for his daughter, who knows?

But why live like that? We're here for a good time, not a long time. This is especially true for a dog that has maybe 10 years to get the most out of life. If they die a couple years early living life to the max, so what?

Here are my dogs swimming in the river -


Here's what someone pulled out of said river about 80 metres away from this spot a couple of weeks earlier.


My dogs are going to live life as normal free animals. All sorts of bad things could happen to anyone or anything, that's just part of life.

[Methane]

The Fila Brasileiro was originally bred to hunt slaves, so I would definitely want one.

The pug, especially the modern version, is a majestic animal. I think it truly encompasses what the ideal dog is meant to be.