What’s your top 10 favorite breeds of dog?

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Feb 5, 2023 6:25:13 GMT Bolushi said:

Feb 5, 2023 6:20:04 GMT @dorado said:

1. Pembroke Welsh Corgi
2. Shiba Inu
3. Basenji
4. Labrador Retriever
5. Pit bull
6. Pomeranian
7. Toy Poodle
8. Miniature Schnauzer
9. Yorkshire Terrier
10.Japanese Spitz

Corgis, poms, poodles, mini schnauzers, yorkies... you're banned. Lol
I guess you don't value dogs for their toughness value like the rest of us do?

I like cute dogs ig Anyone who doesn't must have a very cold heart

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Feb 5, 2023 6:33:08 GMT @dorado said:

Feb 5, 2023 6:25:13 GMT Bolushi said:

Corgis, poms, poodles, mini schnauzers, yorkies... you're banned. Lol
I guess you don't value dogs for their toughness value like the rest of us do?

I like cute dogs igView AttachmentView AttachmentView AttachmentView Attachment Anyone who doesn't must have a very cold heart

Well, the local foxes will throw you a few dollars for the high quality meal.

[Hardcastle]

Feb 5, 2023 6:33:08 GMT @dorado said:

Feb 5, 2023 6:25:13 GMT Bolushi said:

Corgis, poms, poodles, mini schnauzers, yorkies... you're banned. Lol
I guess you don't value dogs for their toughness value like the rest of us do?

I like cute dogs igView AttachmentView AttachmentView AttachmentView Attachment Anyone who doesn't must have a very cold heart

I like tigers with Down's syndrome.

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Feb 5, 2023 6:25:13 GMT Bolushi said:

Feb 5, 2023 6:20:04 GMT @dorado said:

1. Pembroke Welsh Corgi
2. Shiba Inu
3. Basenji
4. Labrador Retriever
5. Pit bull
6. Pomeranian
7. Toy Poodle
8. Miniature Schnauzer
9. Yorkshire Terrier
10.Japanese Spitz

Corgis, poms, poodles, mini schnauzers, yorkies... you're banned. Lol
I guess you don't value dogs for their toughness value like the rest of us do?

I think there's more to dogs than just how good they are at fighting other dogs Bolushi.

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Feb 5, 2023 10:01:28 GMT @ling said:

Feb 5, 2023 6:25:13 GMT Bolushi said:

Corgis, poms, poodles, mini schnauzers, yorkies... you're banned. Lol
I guess you don't value dogs for their toughness value like the rest of us do?

I think there's more to dogs than just how good they are at fighting other dogs Bolushi.

Other dogs is boring which is why Tosas are not on my list. American Pitbull Terrier beats all of the dogs above it easily. One thing all of the dogs have in common is a purpose.
Not dying instantly to stupid vermin like foxes and coyotes is an absolute must for a dog I even tolerate and wouldn't just shoot on sight. I mean... just fucking die then, I don't want to coddle a useless noob with 1 health point. The dog doesn't need to be some elite working dog or whatever, but if it's a one shot to every other wild animal or half-a-quarter decent dog there's simply nothing likeable about it.
Not all the dogs mentioned are bad, corgis can be worth shit, like they won't die to a red tailed hawk, but yorkies and pomeranians and whatever will die instantly and also have nothing interesting going on.

[Musth]

Feb 5, 2023 6:05:18 GMT Bolushi said:

Feb 5, 2023 5:45:03 GMT Musth said:

1. Central Asain Ovcharka
2. Jagdterrier
3. Airdale Terrier
4. Paterdale terrier
5. Apbt
6. Caucasian Volkodav
7. Kangal
8. American Staghound
9. Tazi/Tazy
10. Tosa Inu

Honestly I don’t know if that’s in order or not. And have more breeds too. I don’t really have a favourite if I’m being honest. I pretty much like all working dogs if I’m being honest.

Are you that guy named ''P'' on youtube? He literally just brought Tazi dogs to my attention and seemed smart.

Yep that’s me lol. I do like breeds but I prefer to separate dogs by groups or types as well. 

Here’s my top 5 favourite type of working dogs in order:

1.LGD 
2.Versatile Hunting dogs (Airedale, drahthaars, some hard pointers)
3. Terriers (earthwork hunting dogs, a jagd falls in between 2 and 3) 
4. sighthounds (coursing sighthounds, I like coyote and canine hunting dogs) 
5. fighting breeds (apbt, tosa, BK, a few others there is hardly any true fighting breeds bred to fight) 


I like many of these Australian pig dogs and hunting dogs I see online highly functional and useful. 

But like I said I like all working dogs and the useful ones. I don’t tend to try to judge by breed so much. If I’m being honest. A lot of the time I will prefer a good mix over a purebred. 

[Musth]

Feb 5, 2023 6:30:59 GMT Hardcastle said:

I'll do the "big 3" Kennel clubs-

The Kennel Club (UK)

1. Deerhound
2. Wolfhound
3. Greyhound
4. English Bull terrier
5. Bullmastiff
6. Old English Sheepdog
7. Shar Pei
8. Bouvier Des Flandres
9. Airedale
10. Foxhound

Honorable mentions- Wheaten terrier, Rhodesian Ridgeback, Sloughi, Whippet, Australian cattle dog.


American Kennel Club (USA)

1. Dogo Argentino
2. Scottish deerhound
3. Irish Wolfhound
4. Presa Canario
5. Greyhound
6. EBT
7. Tosa
8. Kelpie
9. bullmastiff
10. American Bulldog

Honorable mentions - Old english Sheepdog, Shar pei, Karelian Bear dog, Jagdterrier, Stumpy tailed cattle


United Kennel Club (USA)

1. Dogo Argentino
2. Scottish Deerhound
3. Irish Wolfhound
4. Presa Canario
5. English Greyhound
6. Spanish Greyhound
7. EBT
8. Tosa
9. Kelpie
10. Bullmastiff

Honorable mentions - American bulldog, APBT, Old english sheepdog, Karelian Bear, Patterdale

Ignoring kennel clubs

1. Bullstag
2. Galgo patagonico
3. Bull arab
4. Dogal Barbucho
5. Bull lurcher (uk)
6. Maritsane
7. American Staghound
8. Australian Staghound
9. Dogo Argentino
10. Bullwolfhound

Deerhound, Alano Espanol, McCallum Cow dog, Bully grey

All time "Immortal" favourites (in order of time rather than preference)

• Ancient wolfhound/celtic war dog (northwest europe and later across roman empire, 1000 bc - 400 ad)
• Ancient scythian/alani catch dog (eurasian steppe before moving in to roman empire, 900 BC -  1 ad)
• Ancient greek gripping dogs; molossian, arcarnanian, pherae, azorus, etc (Epirus region of Greece/Albania, transferred across ancient rome, 400 bc - 10ad)   
• Roman era british bulldogs/boarhounds (british origin, spread across Roman empire 55 bc - 400 ad)
• Alaunt Boucheries/Medieval bulldog (500 ad - 1600s europe)
• Alaunt gentil/medieval boarhound (500 ad - 1600s europe)
• Conquistador war-dogs/boarhound and wolfhound in type (1600s-1914, Iberian/global)
• Colonial boarhounds/bloodhounds (late 1700s-1914 british/global)
• Colonial wolfhounds/staghounds (late 1700s-1914 british/global)
• Victorian era/"Beautiful epoch" fighting/baiting bulldog (england/france/spain to global/colonial 1700s -1914)
• Victorian era/beautiful epoch bandogs, night dogs and bullmastiffs (england/france/spain 1700s - 1914)
• Post war recreated boarhounds, wolfhounds, staghounds, lurchers and bulldogs (Argentina, Australia, New Zealand, USA, South Africa, UK, 1940s-present).

Are those maritsane dogs the same as boergreyhounds in Africa? Are they a line that is used for bigger game? I think I read about them taking down hyenas. But I haven’t seen any evidence on that(not that I have looked). 

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Feb 5, 2023 10:44:50 GMT Musth said:

Feb 5, 2023 6:05:18 GMT Bolushi said:

Are you that guy named ''P'' on youtube? He literally just brought Tazi dogs to my attention and seemed smart.

Yep that’s me lol. I do like breeds but I prefer to separate dogs by groups or types as well. 

Here’s my top 5 favourite type of working dogs in order:

1.LGD 
2.Versatile Hunting dogs (Airedale, drahthaars, some hard pointers)
3. Terriers (earthwork hunting dogs, a jagd falls in between 2 and 3) 
4. sighthounds (coursing sighthounds, I like coyote and canine hunting dogs) 
5. fighting breeds (apbt, tosa, BK, a few others there is hardly any true fighting breeds bred to fight) 


I like many of these Australian pig dogs and hunting dogs I see online highly functional and useful. 

But like I said I like all working dogs and the useful ones. I don’t tend to try to judge by breed so much. If I’m being honest. A lot of the time I will prefer a good mix over a purebred. 

There is no such thing as a canine hunting dog. Wolf hunting is the only other common one, but the dogs don’t actually kill the wolf and mostly merely track or course it. Oh and those Borzoi’s with the wolves that were chained up were an automatic no. Its like the old myth that Rhodesian Ridgebacks actually ended up killing lions, but all they did was use numbers and rough curring to track the lion for the hunters and be able to survive properly.

[Musth]

Feb 5, 2023 11:05:47 GMT Wyatt said:

Feb 5, 2023 10:44:50 GMT Musth said:

Yep that’s me lol. I do like breeds but I prefer to separate dogs by groups or types as well. 

Here’s my top 5 favourite type of working dogs in order:

1.LGD 
2.Versatile Hunting dogs (Airedale, drahthaars, some hard pointers)
3. Terriers (earthwork hunting dogs, a jagd falls in between 2 and 3) 
4. sighthounds (coursing sighthounds, I like coyote and canine hunting dogs) 
5. fighting breeds (apbt, tosa, BK, a few others there is hardly any true fighting breeds bred to fight) 


I like many of these Australian pig dogs and hunting dogs I see online highly functional and useful. 

But like I said I like all working dogs and the useful ones. I don’t tend to try to judge by breed so much. If I’m being honest. A lot of the time I will prefer a good mix over a purebred. 

There is no such thing as a canine hunting dog. Wolf hunting is the only other common one, but the dogs don’t actually kill the wolf and mostly merely track or course it. Oh and those Borzoi’s with the wolves that were chained up were an automatic no. It’s like the old myth that Rhodesian Ridgebacks actually ended up killing lions, but all they did was use numbers and rough curring to track the lion for the hunters and be able to survive properly.

Lol where did you hear that one? People in the states run coyotes with American Staghounds all the time(basically a hybrid of greyhound, deerhound, wolfhound, etc). Also the Tazi in khaziktan run small wolf all the time(mostly jackals actually). Both these dogs run the canines down and dispatch the canines on their own, usually in a small pack but one or two dogs can get it done as well. But it’s more challenging for the dog and gives a high chance for the dog to be injured. 

[Musth]

I can post Tazy besting and finishing golden jackals too. 

Jackals, foxes, coyote, even small Eurasian wolves (rarer) can be hunted by sighthounds…. So yes there is canine hunting with sighthounds. 

[Hardcastle]

Feb 5, 2023 11:05:47 GMT Wyatt said:

There is no such thing as a canine hunting dog.

What? Why do you say these things? So weird.

Its like the old myth that Rhodesian Ridgebacks actually ended up killing lions, but all they did was use numbers and rough curring to track the lion for the hunters and be able to survive properly.

It's actually nothing like that and they did kill wolves and it's extremely well documented and they're fundamentally different dogs to ridgebacks, dogs specifically designed to kill and etc etc.

Your statement is only true for borzois, which are designed to bay wolves. Staghounds, wolfhounds, regular greyhounds... all have extensively killed wolves. They are indeed the primary cause of the wolf's struggles and displacement from much of it's range and regular bottlenecks to near extinction in it's genetic history.

[Musth]

I like this sighthound. He was used on coyotes.

http://instagr.am/p/Byyz6PVlZI-

http://instagr.am/p/Bwsku0wgiwH

http://instagr.am/p/Byy2mWoFeo0

http://instagr.am/p/By0H-CWllpf

What a pure Tazi looks like

http://instagr.am/p/B90Kh6AlBGX

I like this jagd I seen on Facebook. Looks small probably could do some earth work even in the US, which is rare for a jagd these days.

[Hardcastle]

Feb 5, 2023 11:04:28 GMT Musth said:

Feb 5, 2023 6:30:59 GMT Hardcastle said:

I'll do the "big 3" Kennel clubs-

The Kennel Club (UK)

1. Deerhound
2. Wolfhound
3. Greyhound
4. English Bull terrier
5. Bullmastiff
6. Old English Sheepdog
7. Shar Pei
8. Bouvier Des Flandres
9. Airedale
10. Foxhound

Honorable mentions- Wheaten terrier, Rhodesian Ridgeback, Sloughi, Whippet, Australian cattle dog.


American Kennel Club (USA)

1. Dogo Argentino
2. Scottish deerhound
3. Irish Wolfhound
4. Presa Canario
5. Greyhound
6. EBT
7. Tosa
8. Kelpie
9. bullmastiff
10. American Bulldog

Honorable mentions - Old english Sheepdog, Shar pei, Karelian Bear dog, Jagdterrier, Stumpy tailed cattle


United Kennel Club (USA)

1. Dogo Argentino
2. Scottish Deerhound
3. Irish Wolfhound
4. Presa Canario
5. English Greyhound
6. Spanish Greyhound
7. EBT
8. Tosa
9. Kelpie
10. Bullmastiff

Honorable mentions - American bulldog, APBT, Old english sheepdog, Karelian Bear, Patterdale

Ignoring kennel clubs

1. Bullstag
2. Galgo patagonico
3. Bull arab
4. Dogal Barbucho
5. Bull lurcher (uk)
6. Maritsane
7. American Staghound
8. Australian Staghound
9. Dogo Argentino
10. Bullwolfhound

Deerhound, Alano Espanol, McCallum Cow dog, Bully grey

All time "Immortal" favourites (in order of time rather than preference)

• Ancient wolfhound/celtic war dog (northwest europe and later across roman empire, 1000 bc - 400 ad)
• Ancient scythian/alani catch dog (eurasian steppe before moving in to roman empire, 900 BC -  1 ad)
• Ancient greek gripping dogs; molossian, arcarnanian, pherae, azorus, etc (Epirus region of Greece/Albania, transferred across ancient rome, 400 bc - 10ad)   
• Roman era british bulldogs/boarhounds (british origin, spread across Roman empire 55 bc - 400 ad)
• Alaunt Boucheries/Medieval bulldog (500 ad - 1600s europe)
• Alaunt gentil/medieval boarhound (500 ad - 1600s europe)
• Conquistador war-dogs/boarhound and wolfhound in type (1600s-1914, Iberian/global)
• Colonial boarhounds/bloodhounds (late 1700s-1914 british/global)
• Colonial wolfhounds/staghounds (late 1700s-1914 british/global)
• Victorian era/"Beautiful epoch" fighting/baiting bulldog (england/france/spain to global/colonial 1700s -1914)
• Victorian era/beautiful epoch bandogs, night dogs and bullmastiffs (england/france/spain 1700s - 1914)
• Post war recreated boarhounds, wolfhounds, staghounds, lurchers and bulldogs (Argentina, Australia, New Zealand, USA, South Africa, UK, 1940s-present).

Are those maritsane dogs the same as boergreyhounds in Africa? Are they a line that is used for bigger game? I think I read about them taking down hyenas. But I haven’t seen any evidence on that(not that I have looked). 

Maritsane are essentially south african wolfhounds, in the same way the boerboel is realistically the south african bullmastiff and boergreys are realistically south african greyhounds.

"Evidence" is pretty scant on the whole scene, really, they're very "wink wink" and "hush hush" in my experience, but the clues are there and I believe there's a scene justifying the continued breeding of what quite unmistakably appear to be very serious working dogs of a scruffy wolfhound type.
It seems their primary targets are bush pig and brown hyena. I see them as being very much the same thing as the galgo patagonico, and the same thing as some wolfhound-leaning staghounds (often simply staghound x wolfhound) we have here in Australia (a distinct type you often see but no one has named it).

I think if I had more to go on I'd rate them higher. I have a very soft spot for the wolfhound type of dog. The irish wolfhound breed itself is just a little too big and gangly and loose and awkward to fully win my praise. The deerhound just a touch light in the loafers but still is absolutely one of my favourite breeds.
Galgo Patagonicos and Maritsane seem to have everything dialled back to the real wolfhound design and I really like that type of dog.

[Musth]

I really do like the Galgo Patagonicos. Maybe I would add it to my list of “breeds” if I seen it worked more and more evidence of it doing it. I really like the looks of them. They really do look like an original wolfhound. I wonder if they could run other game, like coyote, rabbits, and fox? Or more so for the wild boar? I seen a couple post pictures with them and dead rabbits so I could assume so but who knows.

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Feb 5, 2023 11:27:44 GMT Musth said:

Feb 5, 2023 11:05:47 GMT Wyatt said:

There is no such thing as a canine hunting dog. Wolf hunting is the only other common one, but the dogs don’t actually kill the wolf and mostly merely track or course it. Oh and those Borzoi’s with the wolves that were chained up were an automatic no. It’s like the old myth that Rhodesian Ridgebacks actually ended up killing lions, but all they did was use numbers and rough curring to track the lion for the hunters and be able to survive properly.

Lol where did you hear that one? People in the states run coyotes with American Staghounds all the time(basically a hybrid of greyhound, deerhound, wolfhound, etc). Also the Tazi in khaziktan run small wolf all the time(mostly jackals actually). Both these dogs run the canines down and dispatch the canines on their own, usually in a small pack but one or two dogs can get it done as well. But it’s more challenging for the dog and gives a high chance for the dog to be injured. 




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I know that they can hunt coyotes, thats undeniable. But when I hear “canine hunting” that means like wolves and foxes.