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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2023 22:11:25 GMT
Im thinking because they are biddable and very high prey drive they can be a great decoy dog, pissing off coyotes and luring them into the shot.
I’ve also heard of their howls being used to deter coyotes.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2023 22:13:57 GMT
OK but may end up with dead coyotes or a fucked up GSD. Would need more training than a cattle/cur dog.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2023 22:23:51 GMT
OK but may end up with dead coyotes or a fucked up GSD. Would need more training than a cattle/cur dog. Yeah, Black Mouth Curs and Catahoulas are very versatile. Typically they would attack the coyote but when they are decoy dogs they strategically act like a rough cur to the coyotes, which causes the coyotes to attempt to go after the dog, thats when they lead closer towards the human. I’ve never seen a Cattle Dog as a decoy dog, because most of the time its a dead coyote too. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2023 22:29:23 GMT
OK but may end up with dead coyotes or a fucked up GSD. Would need more training than a cattle/cur dog. Yeah, Black Mouth Curs and Catahoulas are very versatile. Typically they would attack the coyote but when they are decoy dogs they strategically act like a rough cur to the coyotes, which causes the coyotes to attempt to go after the dog, thats when they lead closer towards the human. I’ve never seen a Cattle Dog as a decoy dog, because most of the time its a dead coyote too. Yes, if the dog is in a bind it will pick up the coyote and beat its ass like that cur did. |
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Post by Hardcastle on Feb 4, 2023 22:45:15 GMT
Can definitely be trained to do it, may lack the quickness and agility to avoid getting rump lacerations. Collies and heelers and BMCs are good at it because they are very quick and evasive when they want to be. A gsd luring a coyote by running away from it will probably end up frequently bitten on the hamstrings and ankles. The coyote probably has it's number in a game of tag. The GSD would probably be better off just trying to catch and kill the coyote rather than playing grab ass.
I find it a very lame way to hunt btw, but that's beside the point.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2023 22:47:44 GMT
Can definitely be trained to do it, may lack the quickness and agility to avoid getting rump lacerations. Collies and heelers and BMCs are good at it because they are very quick and evasive when they want to be. A gsd luring a coyote by running away from it will probably end up frequently bitten on the hamstrings and ankles. The coyote probably has it's number in a game of tag. The GSD would probably be better off just trying to catch and kill the coyote rather than playing grab ass. I find it a very lame way to hunt btw, but that's beside the point. Curious? You prefer hunting with dogs to hunting with guns? More of a gun guy bc it givens me more sense of im the guy that shot the deer/rabbit rather than someone else did that |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2023 22:48:34 GMT
Can definitely be trained to do it, may lack the quickness and agility to avoid getting rump lacerations. Collies and heelers and BMCs are good at it because they are very quick and evasive when they want to be. A gsd luring a coyote by running away from it will probably end up frequently bitten on the hamstrings and ankles. The coyote probably has it's number in a game of tag. The GSD would probably be better off just trying to catch and kill the coyote rather than playing grab ass. I find it a very lame way to hunt btw, but that's beside the point. Curious? You prefer hunting with dogs to hunting with guns? More of a gun guy bc it givens me more sense of im the guy that shot the deer/rabbit rather than someone else did that Many times its both, unless you are coursing quarry. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2023 22:49:24 GMT
Can definitely be trained to do it, may lack the quickness and agility to avoid getting rump lacerations. Collies and heelers and BMCs are good at it because they are very quick and evasive when they want to be. A gsd luring a coyote by running away from it will probably end up frequently bitten on the hamstrings and ankles. The coyote probably has it's number in a game of tag. The GSD would probably be better off just trying to catch and kill the coyote rather than playing grab ass. I find it a very lame way to hunt btw, but that's beside the point. I’ve also seen many Brittney Spaniels and German Shorthaired Pointers doing great in decoy dogging. |
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Post by Hardcastle on Feb 4, 2023 22:53:19 GMT
Can definitely be trained to do it, may lack the quickness and agility to avoid getting rump lacerations. Collies and heelers and BMCs are good at it because they are very quick and evasive when they want to be. A gsd luring a coyote by running away from it will probably end up frequently bitten on the hamstrings and ankles. The coyote probably has it's number in a game of tag. The GSD would probably be better off just trying to catch and kill the coyote rather than playing grab ass. I find it a very lame way to hunt btw, but that's beside the point. Curious? You prefer hunting with dogs to hunting with guns? More of a gun guy bc it givens me more sense of im the guy that shot the deer/rabbit rather than someone else did that I don't want to be the guy. I want to watch dogs work the same way I want to watch lions work on national geographic. As a human in that style of hunting your job is to merely facilitate the hunt and then put the quarry out of it's misery AFTER it has been bettered and defeated, making it more pleasant and merciful than brutal raw wild nature, but otherwise similar. If the dogs are bettered that is fine too. You witnessed a thrilling sport and on that day the prey was victorious. It's nice if results are mixed. Me shooting something with a gun is something I really have no interest in whatsoever. It would only be done out of empathy and mercy for the animal (stabbing usually more practical, or even clubbing). The sport of dog vs prey is why I'm there. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2023 22:57:26 GMT
Curious? You prefer hunting with dogs to hunting with guns? More of a gun guy bc it givens me more sense of im the guy that shot the deer/rabbit rather than someone else did that I don't want to be the guy. I want to watch dogs work the same way I want to watch lions work on national geographic. As a human in that style of hunting your job is to merely facilitate the hunt and then put the quarry out of it's misery AFTER it has been bettered and defeated, making it more pleasant and merciful than brutal raw wild nature, but otherwise similar. If the dogs are bettered that is fine too. You witnessed a thrilling sport and on that day the prey was victorious. It's nice if results are mixed. Me shooting something with a gun is something I really have no interest in whatsoever. It would only be done out of empathy and mercy for the animal (stabbing usually more practical, or even clubbing). The sport of dog vs prey is why I'm there. coming from a fishing background where its man vs fish, I guess man vs deer is just something that was more intuitive to me. Its crazy how many different uses of dogs there are. I personally never used a dog when deer/rabbit hunting because they are just so common but I know other hunters have use them mainly to direct the hunter where the quarry is. Haven't met anybody that used them to actually subdue the quarry yet. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2023 23:40:36 GMT
I don't want to be the guy. I want to watch dogs work the same way I want to watch lions work on national geographic. As a human in that style of hunting your job is to merely facilitate the hunt and then put the quarry out of it's misery AFTER it has been bettered and defeated, making it more pleasant and merciful than brutal raw wild nature, but otherwise similar. If the dogs are bettered that is fine too. You witnessed a thrilling sport and on that day the prey was victorious. It's nice if results are mixed. Me shooting something with a gun is something I really have no interest in whatsoever. It would only be done out of empathy and mercy for the animal (stabbing usually more practical, or even clubbing). The sport of dog vs prey is why I'm there. coming from a fishing background where its man vs fish, I guess man vs deer is just something that was more intuitive to me. Its crazy how many different uses of dogs there are. I personally never used a dog when deer/rabbit hunting because they are just so common but I know other hunters have use them mainly to direct the hunter where the quarry is. Haven't met anybody that used them to actually subdue the quarry yet. Because cuntass tree huggers don't like it. Also there is no subduing a deer for a gripper or sighthound, only death. |
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