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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2023 20:22:41 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2023 20:43:12 GMT
Alaskan Kodiak bear...nothing can compare...nothing. Males can weigh up to 1,500 pounds and when they stand they are 8 feet tall.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2023 20:47:41 GMT
Alaskan Kodiak bear...nothing can compare...nothing. Males can weigh up to 1,500 pounds and when they stand they are 8 feet tall. Hi, yes, good pick, but could you please change your vote to 'Brown bear', since the 'Other' option is for prehistoric bears.
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Post by oldgreengrolar on Feb 3, 2023 21:09:52 GMT
Cave bear. It is the bulkiest bear for its weight. It is not called the bear of all bears for nothing. brobear , your feedback? But we don’t live in a weight parity world. At average weight, I would support the male Foxe basin polar bear over all other bears except the larger short faced bears.
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Post by theundertaker45 on Feb 3, 2023 21:29:13 GMT
I don't know if anyone of you has heard of Ursus ingressus (Ursus kanivetz) but one of those monsters had a skull of over 570mm in terms of greatest length. Much bigger than the biggest Ursus spelaeus skulls and probably left over by an individual weighing 1000kg or more. Considering this thing was brawnier than a modern brown bear I think it would definitely come out on top. I've calculated that this monster would have been 170cm at the shoulders; so possibly the strongest terrestrial mammalian carnivore of all time.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2023 21:38:45 GMT
I don't know if anyone of you has heard of Ursus ingressus (Ursus kanivetz) but one of those monsters had a skull of over 570mm in terms of greatest length. Much bigger than the biggest Ursus spelaeus skulls and probably left over by an individual weighing 1000kg or more. Considering this thing was brawnier than a modern brown bear I think it would definitely come out on top. I've calculated that this monster would have been 170cm at the shoulders; so possibly the strongest terrestrial mammalian carnivore of all time. Jesus, that's like 20% taller than the European cave bear. Do you have any other info on it? Was it carnivorous?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2023 21:47:56 GMT
Arctotherium is going to clean house, WTF are we thinking?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2023 21:50:39 GMT
Arctotherium is going to clean house, WTF are we thinking? theundertaker45's bear is almost as tall as Arctotherium. So I disagree.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2023 22:23:59 GMT
Arctotherium is going to clean house, WTF are we thinking? theundertaker45 's bear is almost as tall as Arctotherium. So I disagree. I didn't pay attention to that, but everything else yes. Does the ''Prehistoric Predators'' Arcotherium hold up at all?
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Post by theundertaker45 on Feb 3, 2023 22:38:53 GMT
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It was thought to have had an omnivorous diet depending on the habitat it lived in; the skull is now stored in some Hungarian museum of natural history. The paper first mentioning it ascribed it to Ursus spelaeus but it was later corrected to Ursus ingressus. The longest modern brown bear skull had a length of 503mm; the skull of this bear measured 571mm. What I am waiting for is a professional size estimation of this individual by a paleontologist, it really needs to be done as it may kick the giant short-faced bears off their throne.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2023 22:40:45 GMT
The size alone should scream ''omnivore'' IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2023 22:46:44 GMT
@ling It was thought to have had an omnivorous diet depending on the habitat it lived in; the skull is now stored in some Hungarian museum of natural history. The paper first mentioning it ascribed it to Ursus spelaeus but it was later corrected to Ursus ingressus. The longest modern brown bear skull had a length of 503mm; the skull of this bear measured 571mm. What I am waiting for is a professional size estimation of this individual by a paleontologist, it really needs to be done as it may kick the giant short-faced bears off their throne. Do you favour it here over the other bears? If it was 170cm at the shoulder that is.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2023 14:07:16 GMT
Bit surprised that the Cave bear is currently leading. It's smaller than the Steppe brown bear, both short-faced bears and the one that theundertaker45 mentioned, it was also herbivorous too iirc.
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Post by oldgreengrolar on Feb 5, 2023 9:37:35 GMT
I don't know if anyone of you has heard of Ursus ingressus (Ursus kanivetz) but one of those monsters had a skull of over 570mm in terms of greatest length. Much bigger than the biggest Ursus spelaeus skulls and probably left over by an individual weighing 1000kg or more. Considering this thing was brawnier than a modern brown bear I think it would definitely come out on top. I've calculated that this monster would have been 170cm at the shoulders; so possibly the strongest terrestrial mammalian carnivore of all time. I remember this bear. It is way more carnivorous than the European cave bear. 1000kg is larger than even Stan. I too believe it is the strongest mammalian carnivore at least pound to pound.
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