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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2023 0:03:19 GMT
Largest leopard species vs 150lb dog who identifies as a ram/sheep/lamb 0o0 |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2023 5:24:43 GMT
I highlighted this already. They ran away. " local dogs fail to deter leopards by running away, barking from afar, retreating and not reacting, and sometimes are killed by leopards" Leopards always use ambush, so a dog surviving means the dog won. Also you said they fail to deter leopards, despite their 12.8% success rate that says otherwise. If you believe a dog would do anything but die against a leopard you’re dumb. I believe it could go the other way, but thats because many times dogs are barking and trying to overpower and persuade the leopard to move off its carcass like mini wolves, technically what they are, and then the leopard wins. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2023 5:25:42 GMT
Leopards always use ambush, so a dog surviving means the dog won. Also you said they fail to deter leopards, despite their 12.8% success rate that says otherwise. If you believe a dog would do anything but die against a leopard you’re dumb. I believe it could go the other way, but thats because many times dogs are barking and trying to overpower and persuade the leopard to move off its carcass like mini wolves, technically what they are, and then the leopard wins. No, you're dumb. You're a feral faggot who gets no bitches- streamable.com/mpr5yj |
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Post by lincoln on Feb 6, 2023 6:08:32 GMT
Hit the fucking jackpot on this one:  www.cambridge.org/core/journals/oryx/article/freeranging-dogs-as-a-potential-threat-to-iranian-mammals/512AD1D798EDF9DD759D3E2F4FD8E409Some were immature (e.g. the bear for sure) but mostly adults: ''Of these 141 incidents, 90 reported an age class for the killed mammal: in 62 incidents (69%) the killed mammals were adults, and the remainder were reported as immature.'' Most incidents involved a pack of dogs. Seems like the bigger cats that couldn't escape got butchered to death, and they especially hate the Eurasian lynx. The Persian leopards also got kinda fucked but I want to read the circumstances. If they killed an adult or even subadult that'd be something for sure. Are all those feral dog kills? |
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Post by Hardcastle on Feb 6, 2023 6:13:05 GMT
That's a shitload of brutally massacred asiatic cheetahs. I thought they were critically endangered? Maybe these street dogs are the reason?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2023 6:20:36 GMT
Hit the fucking jackpot on this one: www.cambridge.org/core/journals/oryx/article/freeranging-dogs-as-a-potential-threat-to-iranian-mammals/512AD1D798EDF9DD759D3E2F4FD8E409Some were immature (e.g. the bear for sure) but mostly adults: ''Of these 141 incidents, 90 reported an age class for the killed mammal: in 62 incidents (69%) the killed mammals were adults, and the remainder were reported as immature.'' Most incidents involved a pack of dogs. Seems like the bigger cats that couldn't escape got butchered to death, and they especially hate the Eurasian lynx. The Persian leopards also got kinda fucked but I want to read the circumstances. If they killed an adult or even subadult that'd be something for sure. Are all those feral dog kills? Feral dogs and then some free-ranging owned dogs like LGDs (55) and loose hunting dogs (39) |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2023 6:22:42 GMT
That's a shitload of brutally massacred asiatic cheetahs. I thought they were critically endangered? Maybe these street dogs are the reason? Yeah, I think it's all feral dogs... now in Iran they're screwed: www.rferl.org/a/iran-asiatic-cheetahs-environment-/31646781.htmlLGDs hate them, feral dogs want their kills and also want to kill them... there's too many dogs to peacefully coexist with by avoiding. |
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Post by lincoln on Feb 6, 2023 6:30:48 GMT
Are all those feral dog kills? Feral dogs and then some free-ranging owned dogs like LGDs (55) and loose hunting dogs (39) Does it say which kills are which? |
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Post by Hardcastle on Feb 6, 2023 6:42:44 GMT
We blame humans for erradicating and endangering lots of animals through history (and prehistory) where I think the real culprit is actually dogs. Tasmanian tigers for example, if you understand how remote and desolate some of their range was the idea humans shot them all is totally ridiculous. But feral dogs on the other hand found their way to every nook in cranny, as they did on the mainland thousands of years earlier. Tasmanian devils and thylacines weren't erradicated by humans, they coexisted with them for tens of thousands of years, they also weren't eradicated by "europeans", they were gone for thousands of years before europeans got there. No. It was the arrival of the dog, the dingo, that coincides perfectly with the extinction of mainland thylacines and devils.
Lots of animals that aren't quite totally extinct have still had their ranges massively reduced to a pathetic pitter patter of spots, and I suspect in most cases dogs played a huge role in extirpating them. The current number of feral dogs globally sits at around 750 million. Most of their wild competitors can't even crack 1 million, many can't even crack 100 000, some can't crack 10 000. I'd say there's a set number of spots available to carnivores in that trophic level and dogs have just taken them all. We're obviously supposed to have a lot more animals.
The lower trophic levels meanwhile are being dominated by feral cats.
The reality is cats and dogs are an evolution, not just pets, but newly adapted wild animals that can thrive in a human world (including the wilds of it) where others can not.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2023 6:48:29 GMT
Feral dogs and then some free-ranging owned dogs like LGDs (55) and loose hunting dogs (39) Does it say which kills are which? There's over 100 kills, it's impossible. |
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Post by CoolJohnson on Feb 12, 2023 7:26:26 GMT
Old Leopard with worn down teeth decided to hunt down guard dogs.  " Between mid-August and mid-December 2014, the leopard killed 15 herd dogs, which is equal to one animal per each 8 days." " Since October, most herds concentrated their daily grazing around the village and kept their animals within properly-built corrals inside the village during nighttime. So, the leopard switched its depredation from livestock to dogs." " Besides provision of necessary information, particularly with respect to encountering a leopard in the wild, they tried to make fire around the village, turning gunpowder around high risk places, aerial shooting to frighten the leopard, all seemingly not efficient to stop the leopard from killing dogs." " We deployed foot-snares and captured the leopard. Its teeth were yellow with wellworn canines and incisors. Most of lower incisors were missing, revealing that it is an old adult leopard, estimating between 10 and 15 years. Accordingly, it was concluded that instead fitting the leopard with a GPS collar for translocation to a nearby reserve, the leopard needs intensive veterinary care and treatment, if any chance of re-wilding is sought. Therefore, the leopard was translocated to Wildlife Rehabilitation Center in Tehran for further maintenance and treatment." www.researchgate.net/publication/280240440_Capturing_an_old_problem_Persian_leopard_close_to_the_Iran-Turkmenistan_border |
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