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Post by colein on Mar 23, 2023 5:35:01 GMT
70lb females have killed bull elk, 90-115lb Brazilian Pumas have killed adult boar, 70lb females have killed adult guanaco. Red stag are in the same category as mule deer- albeit more towards the max mule deer weight (which Northern US Pumas kill very frequently) and would prove to be a very, very easy meal. How can you still participate in this echo chamber? "The biggest animal a Puma can kill is a red stag!!!" Nope, sorry pal, they've killed adult moose, mustang, bull elk, boar- and according to teddy roosevelt, multiple draft horses, Sattle horses and horned cattle. Among a multitude of other things that include timber wolves larger than themselves and juvenile black bears. (Which was killed by a juvenile female Puma) Any cougar fan who knows anything about their animal will tell you to cut the shit. Alas, cougar fans are weirdly gay. What is there to call me out on? Everything I said was a documented and is factually correct. And please go tell native people how lame they were for revering and fearing the Puma and even considered it one of the strongest hunting medicines, native tribes such as the Apache also considered Pumas to be more fearsome than grizzly bears due to their incredible agility paired with their strength, of which is incredibly fearsome to a naked 150lb man. Leaving a man with a spear no time to react before getting pounced on and having his spine broken in one swift bite. Please, go out in the north american wilderness where Pumas are present and take a wander at mid night, and feel that incredible vulnerability, that primal fear is instinctive to us due to our encounters with these animals, we are aware of how vulnerable we are to these formidable animals. So I don't see what issue is there in revering them.
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Post by ophio on Mar 23, 2023 17:39:36 GMT
Any cougar fan who knows anything about their animal will tell you to cut the shit. Alas, cougar fans are weirdly gay. What is there to call me out on? Everything I said was a documented and is factually correct. And please go tell native people how lame they were for revering and fearing the Puma and even considered it one of the strongest hunting medicines, native tribes such as the Apache also considered Pumas to be more fearsome than grizzly bears due to their incredible agility paired with their strength, of which is incredibly fearsome to a naked 150lb man. Leaving a man with a spear no time to react before getting pounced on and having his spine broken in one swift bite. Please, go out in the north american wilderness where Pumas are present and take a wander at mid night, and feel that incredible vulnerability, that primal fear is instinctive to us due to our encounters with these animals, we are aware of how vulnerable we are to these formidable animals. So I don't see what issue is there in revering them. Lol i live in the hills in cougar country and I've walked out at night many times in the forest, honestly I'm more likely to get attacked by a coyote which has caused more attacks. Cougars live in california for years and nothing happens but once wolves move in ranchers get scared. Hmmm
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Post by Bolushi on Mar 24, 2023 1:21:32 GMT
Any cougar fan who knows anything about their animal will tell you to cut the shit. Alas, cougar fans are weirdly gay. What is there to call me out on? Everything I said was a documented and is factually correct. And please go tell native people how lame they were for revering and fearing the Puma and even considered it one of the strongest hunting medicines, native tribes such as the Apache also considered Pumas to be more fearsome than grizzly bears due to their incredible agility paired with their strength, of which is incredibly fearsome to a naked 150lb man. Leaving a man with a spear no time to react before getting pounced on and having his spine broken in one swift bite. Please, go out in the north american wilderness where Pumas are present and take a wander at mid night, and feel that incredible vulnerability, that primal fear is instinctive to us due to our encounters with these animals, we are aware of how vulnerable we are to these formidable animals. So I don't see what issue is there in revering them. A fit, rugged man need not fear a measly cougar.
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Post by Bolushi on Mar 24, 2023 1:43:42 GMT
What is there to call me out on? Everything I said was a documented and is factually correct. And please go tell native people how lame they were for revering and fearing the Puma and even considered it one of the strongest hunting medicines, native tribes such as the Apache also considered Pumas to be more fearsome than grizzly bears due to their incredible agility paired with their strength, of which is incredibly fearsome to a naked 150lb man. Leaving a man with a spear no time to react before getting pounced on and having his spine broken in one swift bite. Please, go out in the north american wilderness where Pumas are present and take a wander at mid night, and feel that incredible vulnerability, that primal fear is instinctive to us due to our encounters with these animals, we are aware of how vulnerable we are to these formidable animals. So I don't see what issue is there in revering them. Lol i live in the hills in cougar country and I've walked out at night many times in the forest, honestly I'm more likely to get attacked by a coyote which has caused more attacks. Cougars live in california for years and nothing happens but once wolves move in ranchers get scared. Hmmm Aren't you Chinese? I thought you lived in Asia.
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Post by colein on Mar 24, 2023 4:34:36 GMT
What is there to call me out on? Everything I said was a documented and is factually correct. And please go tell native people how lame they were for revering and fearing the Puma and even considered it one of the strongest hunting medicines, native tribes such as the Apache also considered Pumas to be more fearsome than grizzly bears due to their incredible agility paired with their strength, of which is incredibly fearsome to a naked 150lb man. Leaving a man with a spear no time to react before getting pounced on and having his spine broken in one swift bite. Please, go out in the north american wilderness where Pumas are present and take a wander at mid night, and feel that incredible vulnerability, that primal fear is instinctive to us due to our encounters with these animals, we are aware of how vulnerable we are to these formidable animals. So I don't see what issue is there in revering them. Lol i live in the hills in cougar country and I've walked out at night many times in the forest, honestly I'm more likely to get attacked by a coyote which has caused more attacks. Cougars live in california for years and nothing happens but once wolves move in ranchers get scared. Hmmm You said you live in asia beo stfu lol. It took 4 coyotes several hours to fatally WOUND, not even kill, but wound a single small women. Coyotes are pussies that pose no threat to a person that is above 10 years old and is competent. Mountain lions on the other hand can kill any man, woman, whatever. A coyote has never killed an adult man, meanwhile Pumas have killed several even if their attacks are rare the FEAR is very real to anybody that lives near them. Wolves don't scare ranchers, ranchers run smear campaigns with false worries and concerns to get wolves hunted off of their land so they don't lose surplus livestock to them because they are a pack animal, and pack animals kill and eat a lot more than a solitary predator like a Puma, which is superior to a wolf in every way but doesn't have an appetite as insatiable. 1 wolf vs 1 man and the man can fight it off, 1 man vs 1 Puma and you better hope the Puma's fear of man makes it run off because you'll never fight a Puma off that really wants to kill you.
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Post by colein on Mar 24, 2023 4:38:03 GMT
What is there to call me out on? Everything I said was a documented and is factually correct. And please go tell native people how lame they were for revering and fearing the Puma and even considered it one of the strongest hunting medicines, native tribes such as the Apache also considered Pumas to be more fearsome than grizzly bears due to their incredible agility paired with their strength, of which is incredibly fearsome to a naked 150lb man. Leaving a man with a spear no time to react before getting pounced on and having his spine broken in one swift bite. Please, go out in the north american wilderness where Pumas are present and take a wander at mid night, and feel that incredible vulnerability, that primal fear is instinctive to us due to our encounters with these animals, we are aware of how vulnerable we are to these formidable animals. So I don't see what issue is there in revering them. A fit, rugged man need not fear a measly cougar. Lol, any "rugged" man has more than enough with about him to fear a even a small 70lb female Puma. In fact rugged men have the most respect for a Pumas capability because they live alongside them and witness first hand the type of animals they can kill and they've been up close to them- likely after hunting them to feel their massive shoulder musculature, massive forearms, claws teeth etc. Unlike a spoiled city cadet and rugged man knows a Puma is well beyond any man, a large male Puma can feed on adult men like a deer if it so chose to.
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Post by Bolushi on Mar 24, 2023 4:39:14 GMT
A fit, rugged man need not fear a measly cougar. Lol, any "rugged" man has more than enough with about him to fear a even a small 70lb female Puma. In fact rugged men have the most respect for a Pumas capability because they live alongside them and witness first hand the type of animals they can kill and they've been up close to them- likely after hunting them to feel their massive shoulder musculature, massive forearms, claws teeth etc. Unlike a spoiled city cadet and rugged man knows a Puma is well beyond any man, a large male Puma can feed on adult men like a deer if it so chose to. Home invasions, robberies, HOMICIDES! FIRST DEGREES! All elite human feats that could not be carried out by the baddest of mountain lions. However mediocre men can do that.
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Post by colein on Mar 24, 2023 5:01:25 GMT
What is there to call me out on? Everything I said was a documented and is factually correct. And please go tell native people how lame they were for revering and fearing the Puma and even considered it one of the strongest hunting medicines, native tribes such as the Apache also considered Pumas to be more fearsome than grizzly bears due to their incredible agility paired with their strength, of which is incredibly fearsome to a naked 150lb man. Leaving a man with a spear no time to react before getting pounced on and having his spine broken in one swift bite. Please, go out in the north american wilderness where Pumas are present and take a wander at mid night, and feel that incredible vulnerability, that primal fear is instinctive to us due to our encounters with these animals, we are aware of how vulnerable we are to these formidable animals. So I don't see what issue is there in revering them. Lol i live in the hills in cougar country and I've walked out at night many times in the forest, honestly I'm more likely to get attacked by a coyote which has caused more attacks. Cougars live in california for years and nothing happens but once wolves move in ranchers get scared. Hmmm Lacking fear of a Puma at mid night is called "natural selection", not that you love in Puma country anyway to be making such stupid statements like that. I ACTUALLY live in Puma country, north colorado if you wanted to know and Pumas here are fucking HUGE and RIPPED because they feed on elk all the time. Females are like 60kgs (130lbs) for a large one and males can weigh over 200lbs. You haha fuck that, when I go out at night to my vehicle that in unmistakable spine tingling feeling immediately overtakes you, because they are always watching. Where I live- which is a more rural area, Pumas are incredibly common but seeing one is like getting struck by lightning. The first and only Puma I've seen in my many years of living here was on the side of the road in broad daylight. I was outside of my vehicle at the time making phone calls to my family about my vehicle which had just broken down on me in bum fuck nowhere in the middle of the Colorado wilderness. And out of the tree line came this big ass male Puma with 2 missing ears and a terribly bloody body (likely from a fight with another male, or wolves, or a bear idk) he was limping across the road in front of me and I just froze. Seeing a Puma in person gives you a new found respect for them, but seeing a giant wounded- and for all I knew was a desperate Puma walk right in front of you, with nothing between you and it is terrifying. He stopped halfway across the street and looked at me, it had a big pumpkin head and shoulders like a linebacker and everytime he moved I could see his muscles rippling, shortly after he noticed me he booked it back the other way across the street, and I booked it to but inside my sedan lol. I'll never forget that. Any man that says they can handle one of those is a dumbass that is suicidal. Nope, nuh uh, fuuuuuuck all that lol. While I'm grateful to have seen a Puma, it has also ruined outdoors for me a little bit. I will never go out after dusk unless I have to, and even than only briefly. I'd like to imagine that the reason Puma attacks are so low is because most rural folk like me simply never leave the safety of our house after dark, it's a practice that we all take to heart in Puma country.
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Post by Bolushi on Mar 24, 2023 5:04:47 GMT
Lol i live in the hills in cougar country and I've walked out at night many times in the forest, honestly I'm more likely to get attacked by a coyote which has caused more attacks. Cougars live in california for years and nothing happens but once wolves move in ranchers get scared. Hmmm Lacking fear of a Puma at mid night is called "natural selection", not that you love in Puma country anyway to be making such stupid statements like that. I ACTUALLY live in Puma country, north colorado if you wanted to know and Pumas here are fucking HUGE and RIPPED because they feed on elk all the time. Females are like 60kgs (130lbs) for a large one and males can weigh over 200lbs. You haha fuck that, when I go out at night to my vehicle that in unmistakable spine tingling feeling immediately overtakes you, because they are always watching. Where I live- which is a more rural area, Pumas are incredibly common but seeing one is like getting struck by lightning. The first and only Puma I've seen in my many years of living here was on the side of the road in broad daylight. I was outside of my vehicle at the time making phone calls to my family about my vehicle which had just broken down on me in bum fuck nowhere in the middle of the Colorado wilderness. And out of the tree line came this big ass male Puma with 2 missing ears and a terribly bloody body (likely from a fight with another male, or wolves, or a bear idk) he was limping across the road in front of me and I just froze. Seeing a Puma in person gives you a new found respect for them, but seeing a giant wounded- and for all I knew was a desperate Puma walk right in front of you, with nothing between you and it is terrifying. He stopped halfway across the street and looked at me, it had a big pumpkin head and shoulders like a linebacker and everytime he moved I could see his muscles rippling, shortly after he noticed me he booked it back the other way across the street, and I booked it to but inside my sedan lol. I'll never forget that. Any man that says they can handle one of those is a dumbass that is suicidal. Nope, nuh uh, fuuuuuuck all that lol. While I'm grateful to have seen a Puma, it has also ruined outdoors for me a little bit. I will never go out after dusk unless I have to, and even than only briefly. I'd like to imagine that the reason Puma attacks are so low is because most rural folk like me simply never leave the safety of our house after dark, it's a practice that we all take to heart in Puma country. As an unbiased reasonable man who has seen a cougar in person I'll have to give you a very formal "shut the fuck up".
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Post by Bolushi on Mar 24, 2023 5:05:54 GMT
You're such an absolute scaredy cat little gay clown. Cougars don't fucking scare me and if they scare you that bad you need to shut the fuck up about them if you KNOW you're inclined to paint them out as an unstoppable juggernaut villain.
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Post by colein on Mar 24, 2023 5:10:53 GMT
You're such an absolute scaredy cat little gay clown. Cougars don't fucking scare me and if they scare you that bad you need to shut the fuck up about them if you KNOW you're inclined to paint them out as an unstoppable juggernaut villain. The reason I respect them so much is because I've seen a huge one in person, alone in the middle of nowhere with no way to get away. I felt like a deer and I know I sure as well would've been on the smaller side of things that he's killed if he wanted to take me. Thankfully he was just as afraid of me as I was of him and he took off otherwise I wouldn't be here lol. If you say you don't have any fear while being alone In Puma country than you are lying, simple as that.
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Post by colein on Mar 24, 2023 5:13:24 GMT
Lacking fear of a Puma at mid night is called "natural selection", not that you love in Puma country anyway to be making such stupid statements like that. I ACTUALLY live in Puma country, north colorado if you wanted to know and Pumas here are fucking HUGE and RIPPED because they feed on elk all the time. Females are like 60kgs (130lbs) for a large one and males can weigh over 200lbs. You haha fuck that, when I go out at night to my vehicle that in unmistakable spine tingling feeling immediately overtakes you, because they are always watching. Where I live- which is a more rural area, Pumas are incredibly common but seeing one is like getting struck by lightning. The first and only Puma I've seen in my many years of living here was on the side of the road in broad daylight. I was outside of my vehicle at the time making phone calls to my family about my vehicle which had just broken down on me in bum fuck nowhere in the middle of the Colorado wilderness. And out of the tree line came this big ass male Puma with 2 missing ears and a terribly bloody body (likely from a fight with another male, or wolves, or a bear idk) he was limping across the road in front of me and I just froze. Seeing a Puma in person gives you a new found respect for them, but seeing a giant wounded- and for all I knew was a desperate Puma walk right in front of you, with nothing between you and it is terrifying. He stopped halfway across the street and looked at me, it had a big pumpkin head and shoulders like a linebacker and everytime he moved I could see his muscles rippling, shortly after he noticed me he booked it back the other way across the street, and I booked it to but inside my sedan lol. I'll never forget that. Any man that says they can handle one of those is a dumbass that is suicidal. Nope, nuh uh, fuuuuuuck all that lol. While I'm grateful to have seen a Puma, it has also ruined outdoors for me a little bit. I will never go out after dusk unless I have to, and even than only briefly. I'd like to imagine that the reason Puma attacks are so low is because most rural folk like me simply never leave the safety of our house after dark, it's a practice that we all take to heart in Puma country. As an unbiased reasonable man who has seen a cougar in person I'll have to give you a very formal "shut the fuck up". Well so have I, so no, you shut up, and I don't posture either. I have no need to pump out my chest and act like I wasn't terrified when a likely 180lb male Puma was right in front of me in the middle of nowhere. Maybe you saw a Puma from the safety of you home, it was mono è mono in my circumstances and I had no weapons besides a can opener and some keys. Stop lying to yourself.
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Post by ophio on Mar 24, 2023 15:21:01 GMT
Lol i live in the hills in cougar country and I've walked out at night many times in the forest, honestly I'm more likely to get attacked by a coyote which has caused more attacks. Cougars live in california for years and nothing happens but once wolves move in ranchers get scared. Hmmm Aren't you Chinese? I thought you lived in Asia. Half chinese half white. Live in california
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Post by ophio on Mar 24, 2023 15:24:35 GMT
Lol i live in the hills in cougar country and I've walked out at night many times in the forest, honestly I'm more likely to get attacked by a coyote which has caused more attacks. Cougars live in california for years and nothing happens but once wolves move in ranchers get scared. Hmmm Lacking fear of a Puma at mid night is called "natural selection", not that you love in Puma country anyway to be making such stupid statements like that. I ACTUALLY live in Puma country, north colorado if you wanted to know and Pumas here are fucking HUGE and RIPPED because they feed on elk all the time. Females are like 60kgs (130lbs) for a large one and males can weigh over 200lbs. You haha fuck that, when I go out at night to my vehicle that in unmistakable spine tingling feeling immediately overtakes you, because they are always watching. Where I live- which is a more rural area, Pumas are incredibly common but seeing one is like getting struck by lightning. The first and only Puma I've seen in my many years of living here was on the side of the road in broad daylight. I was outside of my vehicle at the time making phone calls to my family about my vehicle which had just broken down on me in bum fuck nowhere in the middle of the Colorado wilderness. And out of the tree line came this big ass male Puma with 2 missing ears and a terribly bloody body (likely from a fight with another male, or wolves, or a bear idk) he was limping across the road in front of me and I just froze. Seeing a Puma in person gives you a new found respect for them, but seeing a giant wounded- and for all I knew was a desperate Puma walk right in front of you, with nothing between you and it is terrifying. He stopped halfway across the street and looked at me, it had a big pumpkin head and shoulders like a linebacker and everytime he moved I could see his muscles rippling, shortly after he noticed me he booked it back the other way across the street, and I booked it to but inside my sedan lol. I'll never forget that. Any man that says they can handle one of those is a dumbass that is suicidal. Nope, nuh uh, fuuuuuuck all that lol. While I'm grateful to have seen a Puma, it has also ruined outdoors for me a little bit. I will never go out after dusk unless I have to, and even than only briefly. I'd like to imagine that the reason Puma attacks are so low is because most rural folk like me simply never leave the safety of our house after dark, it's a practice that we all take to heart in Puma country. Facts: there's cougar observations all over my suburb on inaturalist and i sometimes see their pawprints when i go hiking. If one tried to attack me, I'd probably be dead but it's a wild animal that is afraid of humans so the chances of an attack are miniscule. Hell I've had face to face encounters with coyotes and black bears which were cool but they ended up retreating. I've literally seen 5'2 100 pound high school girls walk through the forest at night drunk and let's just say cougars are the least of their worries.
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Post by ophio on Mar 24, 2023 15:34:48 GMT
Now I'm confident i can kill a cougar He's a runner and strength-wise runners really aren't the best.
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