American doberman vs European doberman

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Is one better than the other? Or are they both very similar?


Hardcastle Bolushi

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I'm surprised that this thread hasn't been made yet.

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Well both absolutely suck horribly. There are half decent Dobermans out there, lincoln knows some. But in general both American Dobermans and European Dobermans are bad. American Doberman is a flimsy twig and the European Doberman is a bigger, fatter, shittier animal that doesn't even have speed.
Both would lose to a racing greyhound, not joking at all. There's a video of a Doberman losing a legitimate dog fight with a golden retriever, wasn't a dog park fight or anything, it was an organized dog fight.
Any Personal Protection dog forum would point and laugh at you for suggesting Dobermans to do anything. Someone named ''Studman'' on Quora told me the last time they saw a good Doberman was 30 years ago from Holland.
Its foundation was bad anyways, little thought put behind it. It was Mr. Dobermann using shelter mutts as sex slaves to try and envision giant rat terriers that could attack people. And these were tough street mongrels, by no means pushovers... but overtime it was obvious they were being bred for looks.
Nowadays we have the modern Doberman, which is basically a striped hyena with a greyhound's jaws and a lynx's skeleton.
The reason the thread hasn't been made/there hasn't been much talk about Dobermans is because they can't be expected to do anything.

[Hardcastle]

Everyone will tell you the European doberman is better, and they're all wrong. Both suck, but if one has potential to be anything it's the American Doberman. If you're gonna be weak, you better at least be light and lean and quick. The European doberman has more bulk and mass but it is all located in parts of the body where weight only hinders performance. The doberman in general is just a failed experiment. It's not a real dog, it was an attempt at fabricating a dog, and sometimes people do that and fall into the "slot" of a real dog, either via their shrewd understanding of dog types or (more often) by dumb accident, and sometimes then people work this fabricated dog and the work turns it into a real dog. But in the case of the doberman the fabrication is inherently in no man's land for any kind of work. The idea was to create a guard dog or personal protection dog but no understanding of that role or knowledge of what combination of dogs could potentially facilitate the development of such a dog went into the creation of the doberman. It was just a very clueless dumb guy making an illogical Frankenstein's monster and he didn't accidentally stumble onto a viable blend, he just simply missed and failed and the doberman is now a nonsense dog. The European variety is a magnification of the fail. So it's worse. The American is bad but by staying lean and lithe and light it just retains some generic "dog" viability, comparable to say a dalmation or indian street dog or whatever. It's worthless but not less than worthless like a European doberman. It's a zero while the euro is a negative 9.

[lincoln]

This thread hasn’t been made because it seems like no one cares really, I’m pretty much the only person here that doesn’t hate them. But that could be because I’m the only one that has actually seen some good ones. There are good lines of working Doberman but many of the others have been bred for looks like what Bolushi and Hardcastle said