Bornean orangutan vs Common chimpanzee

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I still haven't seen orangutans being mean. They seem to be some orange gorilla x chimp hybrid, peaceful vegetarians that are smaller than gorillas and a bit heavier than chimps.
I favor the chimp.

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I guess the larger, more robust orangutan would win. I can’t see it getting overpowered by the chimp.

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While the chimp is more aggressive, if the orangutan gets pissed then it will win

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Depends on the orangutan. If it's one of these guys then I think the chimpanzee should reconsider attacking him:

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At average weights it's the orangutan. But I want to talk about the p4p battle...

I have an admittedly unpopular view on chimp vs orangutan in considering the orangutan to be superior to chimp p4p. Orangutan has the bigger maul.

The sexual dimorphism of the orangutan is more considerable with males being all of twice the weight of females. This implies more intraspecific conflict between rival males as competition forces males to grow larger

And while they don't look it, I believe the orangutan is probably slightly stronger than chimp p4p, those seemingly thin limbs are deceptive.

And I think orangutans would be more savage than they appear when they are properly threatened. Chimps misbehave, bully, bite and bluff more, but I think orangutan would display a higher level of energy and primitive savagery during a genuine conflict.

Regardless, chimps exhibit more aggression than gorillas while most would still probably claim gorilla outclasses chimp p4p.

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Jan 21, 2023 13:26:42 GMT @ajay said:

At average weights it's the orangutan. But I want to talk about the p4p battle...

I have an admittedly unpopular view on chimp vs orangutan in considering the orangutan to be superior to chimp p4p. Orangutan has the bigger maul.

The sexual dimorphism of the orangutan is more considerable with males being all of twice the weight of females. This implies more intraspecific conflict between rival males as competition forces males to grow larger

And while they don't look it, I believe the orangutan is probably slightly stronger than chimp p4p, those seemingly thin limbs are deceptive.

And I think orangutans would be more savage than they appear when they are properly threatened. Chimps misbehave, bully, bite and bluff more, but I think orangutan would display a higher level of energy and primitive savagery during a genuine conflict.

Regardless, chimps exhibit more aggression than gorillas while most would still probably claim gorilla outclasses chimp p4p.

In fact, they're probably stronger than gorillas p4p. This is because they have freakishly long arms that have to support them when they're hanging from trees and swinging around.

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The Orangutan would definitely win due to its significant size advantage.