Common Chimpanzee vs Indian Leopard

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Which did you do?

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Jan 16, 2023 21:44:13 GMT Bolushi said:

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I deleted some old ones in other threads. Anyways who do you favour?

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I think it's even, but put a gun to my head I will choose chimp.

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A chimpanzee troop killed a gorilla once iirc.

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I favour the chimpanzee. If he still has a banana on him then I'm sure he could throw the peel at the feet of the leopard and make him slip - sending the cat flying off the edge of a hill.

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Jan 16, 2023 22:12:05 GMT @ling said:

A chimpanzee troop killed a gorilla once iirc.

I think they killed some babies but the adults got away safe and it was 27 on 8 or something like that.

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''The silverback and adult females gorillas defended themselves and their offspring. Both silverbacks and several adult females escaped, but two gorilla infants were separated from their mothers and killed, the authors wrote.''
www.cnn.com/2021/07/22/africa/chimpanzee-gorilla-attacks-scn-scli-intl/index.html

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Jan 16, 2023 22:21:08 GMT Bolushi said:

''The silverback and adult females gorillas defended themselves and their offspring. Both silverbacks and several adult females escaped, but two gorilla infants were separated from their mothers and killed, the authors wrote.''
www.cnn.com/2021/07/22/africa/chimpanzee-gorilla-attacks-scn-scli-intl/index.html

Ah, ok.

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The leopard wins. I think cats in general are a stylistic problem for primates and in a p4p context the leopard is even more of a problem than most cats. Stylistically cats present a larger problem to primates than canids do.

And while I might favour the likes of a good 110 lb working dogo to beat a 110 lb leopard, I'd expect the leopard to be better suited to taking the chimp than the dogo is.

The dogo would still win against the chimp but the leopard would
do so more quickly and easier and without as much risk. Although not likely, the dogo could potentially lose to an unsually experienced and skillful chimp, while the leopard basically never would.

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Jan 16, 2023 22:28:56 GMT @ajay said:

The leopard wins. I think cats in general are a stylistic problem for primates and in a p4p context the leopard is even more of a problem than most cats. Stylistically cats present a larger problem to primates than canids do.

And while I might favour the likes of a good 110 lb working dogo to beat a 110 lb leopard, I'd expect the leopard to do be better suited to taking the chimp than the dogo is.

The dogo would still win against the chimp but the leopard would
do so more quickly and easier and without as much risk. Although not likely, the dogo could potentially lose to an unsually experienced and skillful chimp, while the leopard basically never would.

Good points. I'm restraining from voting for now.

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Experiment.

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While they don't seem to be a regular prey item, large leopards have been known to attempt predation on silverbacks. Out of the couple of accounts I've heard of those skirmishes ended in stalemate.

Has anyone heard of the historical account of the captive 185 lb melanistic leopard that got into the enclosure of a 310 lb silverback to assail it?

What I remember of the newspaper article is that there was an audience of people observing the hours-long assault. The audience watched the leopard assault the gorilla until eventually the leopard took the gorila's hand off, at which point they decided to put a stop to it.

Bolushi you know something of this account.

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Jan 16, 2023 22:47:08 GMT @ajay said:

While they don't seem to be a regular prey item, large leopards have been known to attempt predation on silverbacks. Out of the couple of accounts I've heard of those skirmishes ended in stalemate.

Has anyone heard of the historical account of the captive 185 lb melanistic leopard that got into the enclosure of a 310 lb silverback to assail it?

What I remember of the newspaper article is that there was an audience of people observing the hours-long assault. The audience watched the leopard assault the gorilla until eventually the leopard took the gorila's hand off, at which point they decided to put a stop to it.

Bolushi you know something of this account.

I think I heard a very exaggerated version where its arm was torn off or whatever? Stind Ler sent it to me. 

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Just copy an image right click on one from Google images