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Post by PumAcinonyx SuperCat on Jan 15, 2023 13:14:53 GMT
As a matter of fact, Antonio is actually right regarding the EBT vs Gaur thing. I'm not zealous in saying this, but yes, all them bulldogs can actually defeat bulls that are exponentially larger than them in size. It sounds absurd, but yes those tiny dogs can defeat the Spanish Bulls that win against larger carnivores.
I didn’t believe it at first, I couldn't bare to live with the thought that a 50 lb bulldog can defeat an animal that would stomp a lion or tiger. I just felt uneasy with it myself. But then I realised, that those dogs are simply specialised for bulls. It doesn’t mean they would defeat every animal that a bull would defeat. The logic isn't Alano > Spanish Bull >>>>>>> Jaguar or Cougar or Leopard. Not at all. Any of those cats would decimate an Alano.
They're simply specialised for bulls, nothing more. It doesn’t mean they would defeat a lion because they can defeat a bull that can in turn defeat a lion.
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Post by Hardcastle on Jan 15, 2023 13:36:21 GMT
Please can we all stay? Let nobody leave. This place is really cool. Don't let some slight disagreement over the result of some matchup make you leave an entire forum behind. Hell, these animals don't even know there are dudes all over the world that have entire structures dedicated just to arguing about who would win in a fight between them. Haven't you ever thought of it that way? FR. If you're really annoyed at someone, then just block them (I found out that proboards has a means to block offenders), not forsake an entire community behind. That’s like disowning your family or family name just because some distant cousin you're not really close to did something that angered you. Just take out the weed, not burn down the entire farm. This forum is barely 3 months old. It's far too early for people to be getting banned or saying "I'm leaving, you guys are doing X and Y that I don't like". Maybe when a forum is like 5 years and you've gathered numerous members, that's when you can start sorting wheat from chaff, not just 2 days after you planted (barely 3 months in this case). If you leave Food Chain, where will you go? You can't just be jumping from forum to forum so quickly. That's like changing schools every 2 weeks. I'm sure none of us would desert us. Yours Felinely The SuperCat We need more pro-cat people to argue with. I agree, funnily enough. Even I am uneasy and uncomfortable with the pro-dog slant. I am much more comfortable being in the minority taking on a majority "institution" of cat lovers and dog disrespecters. Slaying that mighty dragon is my comfort zone. That's what I have always done in the past, and that's what I do. But being on a dog-dominant board, and being admin as well, I actually don't know what to do with myself. Being admin to me is a responsibility to be nice and balanced and unbiased with the members and I actually feel shackled and restrained from being myself- an antagonistic bombastic shithead who destroys dog-haters. When I do that in my preferred style it very quickly starts looking like I'm "abusing my power", which I don't want to do. So I'm very seriously contemplating relinquishing my admin status. It's proving to be a burden and a hindrance TBH. I also would not be suprised if it's turning people off. My "rivals" know I am problematic enough without also having the power to fuck with them at will. So I imagine they just won't join while I am admin. It's looking likely there will be a big shake up soon. |
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Post by Hardcastle on Jan 15, 2023 13:45:40 GMT
As a matter of fact, Antonio is actually right regarding the EBT vs Gaur thing. I'm not zealous in saying this, but yes, all them bulldogs can actually defeat bulls that are exponentially larger than them in size. It sounds absurd, but yes those tiny dogs can defeat the Spanish Bulls that win against larger carnivores. I didn’t believe it at first, I couldn't bare to live with the thought that a 50 lb bulldog can defeat an animal that would stomp a lion or tiger. I just felt uneasy with it myself. But then I realised, that those dogs are simply specialised for bulls. It doesn’t mean they would defeat every animal that a bull would defeat. The logic isn't Alano > Spanish Bull >>>>>>> Jaguar or Cougar or Leopard. Not at all. Any of those cats would decimate an Alano. They're simply specialised for bulls, nothing more. It doesn’t mean they would defeat a lion because they can defeat a bull that can in turn defeat a lion. Yes. And btw not specialised to "kill it", that's stupid. But it's noteworthy that yes they can tangle with a mighty bull that would kick a lion or tigers ass (let alone leopard or cougar) and stick with it and actually take the fight out of it until it can't continue. A main part of that is enduring the beatings and retaliations that the bull can dish out, and they do this with a combination of their iron grip, durability, persistence/determination and pain tolerance, but also strategic manuveuring to hold the head and ride out the retaliations safely, then move their body away from danger while maintining their grip and etc. That's their thing that they do, and they're good at it and better at than any wild animal. Not killing but controlling these animals and keeping themselves safe while they do it. Yes it doesn't mean Dog > Bull > big cats and therefore dog > big cat. That dog vs big cat issue becomes a new argument (which I maintain at parity can bode well for the dog, but I don't mind people saying cat > dog and either way it's beside the pioint). Equally big cat > dog never meant "even a big cat loses to a bull, therefore OFCOURSE A DOG WOULD GET KILLED WITH ONE KICK!!!!11!!", though many took this stance, despite being immediately made to look foolish when one inevitably asks "sooo why are they called bulldogs then?". Overall, well said Supercat. |
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Post by PumAcinonyx SuperCat on Jan 15, 2023 13:59:35 GMT
As a matter of fact, Antonio is actually right regarding the EBT vs Gaur thing. I'm not zealous in saying this, but yes, all them bulldogs can actually defeat bulls that are exponentially larger than them in size. It sounds absurd, but yes those tiny dogs can defeat the Spanish Bulls that win against larger carnivores. I didn’t believe it at first, I couldn't bare to live with the thought that a 50 lb bulldog can defeat an animal that would stomp a lion or tiger. I just felt uneasy with it myself. But then I realised, that those dogs are simply specialised for bulls. It doesn’t mean they would defeat every animal that a bull would defeat. The logic isn't Alano > Spanish Bull >>>>>>> Jaguar or Cougar or Leopard. Not at all. Any of those cats would decimate an Alano. They're simply specialised for bulls, nothing more. It doesn’t mean they would defeat a lion because they can defeat a bull that can in turn defeat a lion. Yes. And btw not specialised to "kill it", that's stupid. But it's noteworthy that yes they can tangle with a mighty bull that would kick a lion or tigers ass (let alone leopard or cougar) and stick with it and actually take the fight out of it until it can't continue. A main part of that is enduring the beatings and retaliations that the bull can dish out, and they do this with a combination of their iron grip, durability, persistence/determination and pain tolerance, but also strategic manuveuring to hold the head and ride out the retaliations safely, then move their body away from danger while maintining their grip and etc. That's their thing that they do, and they're good at it and better at than any wild animal. Not killing but controlling these animals and keeping themselves safe while they do it. Yes it doesn't mean Dog > Bull > big cats and therefore dog > big cat. That dog vs big cat issue becomes a new argument (which I maintain at parity can bode well for the dog, but I don't mind people saying cat > dog and either way it's beside the pioint). Equally big cat > dog never meant "even a big cat loses to a bull, therefore OFCOURSE A DOG WOULD GET KILLED WITH ONE KICK!!!!11!!", though many took this stance, despite being immediately made to look foolish when one inevitably asks "sooo why are they called bulldogs then?". Overall, well said Supercat. Yes, I agree completely. It's like a kind of trio of animals where no single one is stronger than the other 2 ("stronger" meaning, it can defeat it in a fight more often than not). • Spanish Bull >>>> Cat Family, but loses to a bulldog • Big Cats >>>>>> Bulldogs, but lose to a Spanish Bull • Bulldogs > Spanish Bull (1 arrow, cuz I think they usually take a long time to subdue it, and the bull also puts up a good fight), but lose to big cats. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2023 14:07:48 GMT
We need more pro-cat people to argue with. I agree, funnily enough. Even I am uneasy and uncomfortable with the pro-dog slant. I am much more comfortable being in the minority taking on a majority "institution" of cat lovers and dog disrespecters. Slaying that mighty dragon is my comfort zone. That's what I have always done in the past, and that's what I do. But being on a dog-dominant board, and being admin as well, I actually don't know what to do with myself. Being admin to me is a responsibility to be nice and balanced and unbiased with the members and I actually feel shackled and restrained from being myself- an antagonistic bombastic shithead who destroys dog-haters. When I do that in my preferred style it very quickly starts looking like I'm "abusing my power", which I don't want to do. So I'm very seriously contemplating relinquishing my admin status. It's proving to be a burden and a hindrance TBH. I also would not be suprised if it's turning people off. My "rivals" know I am problematic enough without also having the power to fuck with them at will. So I imagine they just won't join while I am admin. It's looking likely there will be a big shake up soon. I'll ask a bunch of cat people on Quora. |
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Post by Hardcastle on Jan 15, 2023 14:10:28 GMT
@ajay Given the above, would you possibly be interested in being admin?
I can definitely make you admin, I'm still trying to figure out if I can make myself NOT admin. Not sure.
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Post by Hardcastle on Jan 15, 2023 14:16:21 GMT
My vision for the best board would be an Admin that is fairly neutral, interested in animal performance and seeking the truth, but not really emotionally passionate about one kind of animal.
Then every type of animal could have an ELECTED mod that represents them. So a cat mod, a dog mod, a bear mod, a reptile/dinosaur mod, a mustelid mod, etc etc. I think that could be really cool. Obviously in this scenario I would not be admin, and I kind of think I shouldn't be. Not even sure I should be the dog mod... maybe me AND Bolushi shouldn't be mods. Someone less fiery like Lincoln perhaps.
Originally the goal was to actually have lincoln be admin but it didn't work out because he didn't know how to do the administrative tasks like making the board.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2023 21:29:58 GMT
@ajay Given the above, would you possibly be interested in being admin? Good question. Shoot you a message later. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2023 21:43:11 GMT
My vision for the best board would be an Admin that is fairly neutral, interested in animal performance and seeking the truth, but not really emotionally passionate about one kind of animal. Then every type of animal could have an ELECTED mod that represents them. So a cat mod, a dog mod, a bear mod, a reptile/dinosaur mod, a mustelid mod, etc etc. I think that could be really cool. Obviously in this scenario I would not be admin, and I kind of think I shouldn't be. Not even sure I should be the dog mod... maybe me AND Bolushi shouldn't be mods. Someone less fiery like Lincoln perhaps. Originally the goal was to actually have lincoln be admin but it didn't work out because he didn't know how to do the administrative tasks like making the board. I trust @ling to do a good job. I can name a lot OF dinosaurs but I don’t actually know that much about them. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2023 22:08:55 GMT
My vision for the best board would be an Admin that is fairly neutral, interested in animal performance and seeking the truth, but not really emotionally passionate about one kind of animal. Then every type of animal could have an ELECTED mod that represents them. So a cat mod, a dog mod, a bear mod, a reptile/dinosaur mod, a mustelid mod, etc etc. I think that could be really cool. Obviously in this scenario I would not be admin, and I kind of think I shouldn't be. Not even sure I should be the dog mod... maybe me AND Bolushi shouldn't be mods. Someone less fiery like Lincoln perhaps. Originally the goal was to actually have lincoln be admin but it didn't work out because he didn't know how to do the administrative tasks like making the board. What happens to mod discussion then? |
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Post by Hardcastle on Jan 15, 2023 22:19:30 GMT
My vision for the best board would be an Admin that is fairly neutral, interested in animal performance and seeking the truth, but not really emotionally passionate about one kind of animal. Then every type of animal could have an ELECTED mod that represents them. So a cat mod, a dog mod, a bear mod, a reptile/dinosaur mod, a mustelid mod, etc etc. I think that could be really cool. Obviously in this scenario I would not be admin, and I kind of think I shouldn't be. Not even sure I should be the dog mod... maybe me AND Bolushi shouldn't be mods. Someone less fiery like Lincoln perhaps. Originally the goal was to actually have lincoln be admin but it didn't work out because he didn't know how to do the administrative tasks like making the board. What happens to mod discussion then? The dog mod would have to be in there vouching for us and sticking up for us. "leave Bolushi alone you pack of animals! He's just a boy!!". Ideally the mods should all hate each other, so there's no "mod clique" mad with power, just various animal cliques and each has one powerful person representing them. Just spitballing ideas, objectively this would be the fairest system and prevent people whining and bitching and feeling overwhelmed and saddened by the sassy dog loving mod team. |
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Post by s on Sept 1, 2023 10:53:02 GMT
So where is the Mosquito Vs Dragon match? Can i request it?
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Post by s on Sept 9, 2023 14:25:19 GMT
@ling 10/10 a 38 lb bulldog fucking murders the biggest Indian gaur in 60 seconds flat. It's called a "bull"-dog not a "no bulls"-dog. Are you serious lol? Does the Bull Terrier have Sabertooth Teeth able to impale the Gaur's heart in under 60 seconds or something? |
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Post by s on Sept 9, 2023 14:35:55 GMT
Yes. And btw not specialised to "kill it", that's stupid. But it's noteworthy that yes they can tangle with a mighty bull that would kick a lion or tigers ass (let alone leopard or cougar) and stick with it and actually take the fight out of it until it can't continue. A main part of that is enduring the beatings and retaliations that the bull can dish out, and they do this with a combination of their iron grip, durability, persistence/determination and pain tolerance, but also strategic manuveuring to hold the head and ride out the retaliations safely, then move their body away from danger while maintining their grip and etc. That's their thing that they do, and they're good at it and better at than any wild animal. Not killing but controlling these animals and keeping themselves safe while they do it. Yes it doesn't mean Dog > Bull > big cats and therefore dog > big cat. That dog vs big cat issue becomes a new argument (which I maintain at parity can bode well for the dog, but I don't mind people saying cat > dog and either way it's beside the pioint). Equally big cat > dog never meant "even a big cat loses to a bull, therefore OFCOURSE A DOG WOULD GET KILLED WITH ONE KICK!!!!11!!", though many took this stance, despite being immediately made to look foolish when one inevitably asks "sooo why are they called bulldogs then?". Overall, well said Supercat. Yes, I agree completely. It's like a kind of trio of animals where no single one is stronger than the other 2 ("stronger" meaning, it can defeat it in a fight more often than not). • Spanish Bull >>>> Cat Family, but loses to a bulldog • Big Cats >>>>>> Bulldogs, but lose to a Spanish Bull • Bulldogs > Spanish Bull (1 arrow, cuz I think they usually take a long time to subdue it, and the bull also puts up a good fight), but lose to big cats. Bare minimum amount of Alanos usually needed to subdue a Spanish Bull was 2 from some contemporary sources i readed. As if only one was used Bull could still defend itself with half his body. I agree they excel at subjugation though. |
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