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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2023 18:39:54 GMT
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Post by Johnson on Jan 12, 2023 19:13:36 GMT
A Wolf.
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Post by Hardcastle on Jan 12, 2023 19:17:17 GMT
Leopard/wolf/puma/hyena.
Freakish technique could possibly achieve higher. I think there was some japanese guy who could kill a bull with his bare hands.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2023 19:34:41 GMT
Persian leopard, Mexican jaguar (ess)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2023 19:40:10 GMT
Leopard/wolf/puma/hyena. Freakish technique could possibly achieve higher. I think there was some japanese guy who could kill a bull with his bare hands. Wolves and leopards/pumas aren't interchangeable. A leopard/puma is a harder opponent for a human than a wolf, their claws and superior reflexes are devastating for us, also humans are just bad match-ups for dogs imo. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2023 19:43:18 GMT
Leopard/wolf/puma/hyena. Freakish technique could possibly achieve higher. I think there was some japanese guy who could kill a bull with his bare hands. Wolves and leopards/pumas aren't interchangeable. A leopard/puma is a harder opponent for a human than a wolf, their claws and superior reflexes are devastating for us, also humans are just bad match-ups for dogs imo. They are in a similar tier but just against each other at the same weight. When it comes to fighting people, I would switch out wolf with a Tosa or PP Bandog which mimics a Tosa in design. Or even a big LGD. A human can twist a wolf's leg and rip open its sternum incredibly easily. (And the dogs can shatter its bones and tear off its limbs) |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2023 20:07:48 GMT
Wolves and leopards/pumas aren't interchangeable. A leopard/puma is a harder opponent for a human than a wolf, their claws and superior reflexes are devastating for us, also humans are just bad match-ups for dogs imo. They are in a similar tier but just against each other at the same weight. When it comes to fighting people, I would switch out wolf with a Tosa or PP Bandog which mimics a Tosa in design. Or even a big LGD. A human can twist a wolf's leg and rip open its sternum incredibly easily. (And the dogs can shatter its bones and tear off its limbs) Imo, a large 135 kg MMA world champion would beat any dog breed. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2023 20:15:24 GMT
They are in a similar tier but just against each other at the same weight. When it comes to fighting people, I would switch out wolf with a Tosa or PP Bandog which mimics a Tosa in design. Or even a big LGD. A human can twist a wolf's leg and rip open its sternum incredibly easily. (And the dogs can shatter its bones and tear off its limbs) Imo, a large 135 kg MMA world champion would beat any dog breed. And you would be right. Hardcastle could. However a man would have some issues with a Tosa or giant LGD. They have thick loose skin and are inclined to take control. Wolves are neither. In fact, they are actively deficient in both of those qualities. |
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Post by Hardcastle on Jan 12, 2023 20:24:45 GMT
Leopard/wolf/puma/hyena. Freakish technique could possibly achieve higher. I think there was some japanese guy who could kill a bull with his bare hands. Wolves and leopards/pumas aren't interchangeable. A leopard/puma is a harder opponent for a human than a wolf, their claws and superior reflexes are devastating for us, also humans are just bad match-ups for dogs imo. I agree humans are a bad matchup for dogs, but leopards and pumas have been beaten also. It's like humans are kind of a bad matchup for them as well. Leopards mostly only achieve the feat in South Asia, very rarely in Africa. Weirdly stark contrast in man-eating cases (hundreds vs 3 or 4 over the last century) and I think the difference has to be the actual people, as prey. When you consider this, the often repeated belief that pumas are inferior man-killers actually gets debunked, because they also have 3 or 4 cases over the last hundred years. Like non-indian leopards. Send some more Indian guys jogging in puma country or moving goats around in africa and you may see a sudden dramatic up-spike in man eating cases. |
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Post by Hardcastle on Jan 12, 2023 20:25:12 GMT
They are in a similar tier but just against each other at the same weight. When it comes to fighting people, I would switch out wolf with a Tosa or PP Bandog which mimics a Tosa in design. Or even a big LGD. A human can twist a wolf's leg and rip open its sternum incredibly easily. (And the dogs can shatter its bones and tear off its limbs) Imo, a large 135 kg MMA world champion would beat any dog breed. And any leopard. |
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