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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2023 23:51:09 GMT
Yes but I think you would get crushed by a 150-200lb LGD or 80-130lb slime-skinned gripping dog. I would beat a 80 lb dog lol. If I trained in BJJ or MMA and got a bit more jacked then I could probably beat every dog breed. I'm not so sure the average 19yo UK citizen would have good odds against an 80lb dog who's skin shifts whenever you try to grab it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2023 23:58:26 GMT
I would beat a 80 lb dog lol. If I trained in BJJ or MMA and got a bit more jacked then I could probably beat every dog breed. I'm not so sure the average 19yo UK citizen would have good odds against an 80lb dog who's skin shifts whenever you try to grab it. I could lmao. 80 lbs is nothing. Also its skin won't help it when I'm strangling it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2023 0:16:52 GMT
I would beat a 80 lb dog lol. If I trained in BJJ or MMA and got a bit more jacked then I could probably beat every dog breed. I'm not so sure the average 19yo UK citizen would have good odds against an 80lb dog who's skin shifts whenever you try to grab it. Also I'm not a regular citizen. I'm 5 inches taller than than average. |
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Post by lincoln on Jan 14, 2023 0:17:55 GMT
Use it for what? I for one would definitely like to see it. I mean would you use it to scale dogs that could kill you? |
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Post by lincoln on Jan 14, 2023 0:19:40 GMT
I think you would eat your own words in a heartbeat in practice. I workout every now and again. I work out very often on top of sports and I don’t think I could beat a dog close to my weight |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2023 0:29:49 GMT
I workout every now and again. I work out very often on top of sports and I don’t think I could beat a dog close to my weight The dog is 36 kg and I'm 6,3 lol. I think I'd be alright. |
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Post by lincoln on Jan 14, 2023 0:33:19 GMT
I work out very often on top of sports and I don’t think I could beat a dog close to my weight The dog is 36 kg and I'm 6,3 lol. I think I'd be alright. I’m also 6’3, I’m talking about near equal weight. Even if the person is a good bit heavier like with a Dogo, the person will probably get messed up a bit. Many people freak out while being bit by dogs much smaller then them |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2023 0:38:17 GMT
The dog is 36 kg and I'm 6,3 lol. I think I'd be alright. I’m also 6’3, I’m talking about near equal weight. Even if the person is a good bit heavier like with a Dogo, the person will probably get messed up a bit. Many people freak out while being bit by dogs much smaller then them Depends on the human. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2023 1:00:22 GMT
I'm not so sure the average 19yo UK citizen would have good odds against an 80lb dog who's skin shifts whenever you try to grab it. I could lmao. 80 lbs is nothing. Also its skin won't help it when I'm strangling it. 80lb bully mutts have killed people bigger than you. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2023 1:05:10 GMT
Ling, go in a bitesuit and fuck around with some shepherds. Then understand an 80lb gripper would kill 5 shepherds. Then ALSO understand police dogs can take out big strong criminals.
You think you'll pull off some epic wrestling moves when you probably won't. You could, but on first contact? Whatever plans you had are gone. Good luck strangling a dog with your arm in its mouth shaking violently and dislocating and nullifying your arm.
If you had experience with dogs you would have an advantage, but you do not.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2023 13:08:59 GMT
Ling, go in a bitesuit and fuck around with some shepherds. Then understand an 80lb gripper would kill 5 shepherds. Then ALSO understand police dogs can take out big strong criminals. You think you'll pull off some epic wrestling moves when you probably won't. You could, but on first contact? Whatever plans you had are gone. Good luck strangling a dog with your arm in its mouth shaking violently and dislocating and nullifying your arm. If you had experience with dogs you would have an advantage, but you do not. I have a working Kelpie I guess... but I wouldn't lose to a 36 kg dog, I've been bitten by similarly sized dogs, and while yes it certainly hurts I didn't ever really feel like my life was on the line lol, of course the dog here would be latched onto my arm, but I'm not losing to a dog less than half my size. |
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Post by Hardcastle on Jan 17, 2023 15:48:54 GMT
I'm annoyed to say I kind of agree with Ling on this one. Dogs just aren't good at humans. Its the reason I lost interest in the PP world and just abandoned it and got back in to the hunting world. I like to see dogs do well, and they do really well against hogs and bulls and stags and even wild cats and bears, but not humans (and other primates, and probably snakes and other random stupid things).
When there were dogs genuinely designed to fuck up/kill humans they were massive, often 140-170lbs, at a time when "bullmastiffs" were often 60 lbs and even less. That's a phenomenally big dog for the era, but that's what they used to hunt and brutalise natives and slaves and criminals, particularly in the 1700s and 1800s. It seems to me the optimal dog size for a bull is 30-90 lbs max, the optimal size for a boar is 65-130 lbs max. My understanding is bear was probably similar to boar or somewhere between bull and boar. But the optimal size for a human was actually 105-170 lbs max. It makes sense to me. The problem with humans from a dogs point of view is they can just use their filthy paws and fine motor skills to control and manipulate the dog's body and cause it grievous bodily harm or choke it out. Many humans stupidly think they can punch or kick an attacking dog, and that's fun because they actually play into the dog's hands and the dog can laugh at their silly strikes which are like water off a duck's back while it torpedo's in for a hold. But if a human is shrewd enough to grab the dog, by say the scruff of the neck, holding it's mouth away from them, they can then do whatever dastardly thing they please and cause incredible life-ending damage or just like I said, calmly strangle it at leisure. Holding and easily controlling a dog gets harder the bigger and stronger it is. The larger dog also gets harder to hurt with little dirty tactics.
So yeah basically if "colonial bloodhounds" were still a thing, that is dogs similar to Ohallorans and Bull-wolfhounds weighing over 140 lbs but blooded and trained to attack humans, then dog vs man might start being interesting. Of the dogs that exist today, I'd choose Kangals, CAOs, Tosas, Fila Brasileiros, Bully Kuttas and indeed OHallorans and Bullwolfhounds, as the best contenders to actually beat a man in a fight. All of the above need to be conditioned to understand killing humans is ok (might have to use bait humans? Maybe de-clawed? Lol). Even then... I hate the matchup for even these dogs. Sad as it is you need two dogs to feel confident with taking down a man.
As I've said many times, just a bogey opponent. A bad matchup.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2023 16:09:12 GMT
Ling, go in a bitesuit and fuck around with some shepherds. Then understand an 80lb gripper would kill 5 shepherds. Then ALSO understand police dogs can take out big strong criminals. You think you'll pull off some epic wrestling moves when you probably won't. You could, but on first contact? Whatever plans you had are gone. Good luck strangling a dog with your arm in its mouth shaking violently and dislocating and nullifying your arm. If you had experience with dogs you would have an advantage, but you do not. I have a working Kelpie I guess... but I wouldn't lose to a 36 kg dog, I've been bitten by similarly sized dogs, and while yes it certainly hurts I didn't ever really feel like my life was on the line lol, of course the dog here would be latched onto my arm, but I'm not losing to a dog less than half my size. You would probably take issue with one of your frail humanoid arms being ripped to pieces and dislocated... right? You could probably figure it out, but not before being ravaged. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2023 16:11:23 GMT
I have a working Kelpie I guess... but I wouldn't lose to a 36 kg dog, I've been bitten by similarly sized dogs, and while yes it certainly hurts I didn't ever really feel like my life was on the line lol, of course the dog here would be latched onto my arm, but I'm not losing to a dog less than half my size. You would probably take issue with one of your frail humanoid arms being ripped to pieces and dislocated... right? You could probably figure it out, but not before being ravaged. Did you see Hardcastle's post above? Isn't he your teacher or something? Learn from him. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2023 16:13:12 GMT
You would probably take issue with one of your frail humanoid arms being ripped to pieces and dislocated... right? You could probably figure it out, but not before being ravaged. Did you see Hardcastle's post above? Isn't he your teacher or something? Learn from him. I did a very long time ago. But you are a shit human who doesn't know dogs. In the past entire villages of stupid people were massacred. |
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