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Post by Hardcastle on Jan 10, 2023 16:19:09 GMT
Say there was a big carcass, lets say a dead bull. Every species of vulture and condor is represented by 3 individuals and they all start their search from 20 miles away.
Which species would get the best/most meat and why? Factoring in intimidation ability, scenting/finding ability, quick feeding ability... and whatever else you can think of.
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Post by Hardcastle on Jan 10, 2023 16:19:39 GMT
I have a pick in mind, but withholding my vote because I actually hope to learn a thing or two about vultures.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2023 16:35:13 GMT
Bearded vulture imo.
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Post by Hardcastle on Jan 10, 2023 16:44:02 GMT
A commendable selection.  Sheer size would have the Lammergeier making many of these contestants back down. They are also especially good dealing with bones and getting marrow out of them. I had a book as a kid with about 4 or 5 native villagers holding a dead lammergeier showcasing it's stupidly huge wingspan, really left an impression on me but I can't seem to find that photo (and the book fell apart decades ago). |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2023 16:45:54 GMT
A commendable selection. Sheer size would have the Lammergeier making many of these contestants back down. They are also especially good dealing with bones and getting marrow out of them. I had a book as a kid with about 4 or 5 native villagers holding a dead lammergeier showcasing it's stupidly huge wingspan, really left an impression on me but I can't seem to find that photo (and the book fell apart decades ago). Yes. They also hunt prey more regularly than other vultures, going after tortoises similar in size to them. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2023 5:01:53 GMT
Condor says ''move bitch, get out the way'' and butcherfucks everyone else.
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Post by oldgreengrolar on Jan 11, 2023 11:00:25 GMT
A commendable selection. Sheer size would have the Lammergeier making many of these contestants back down. They are also especially good dealing with bones and getting marrow out of them. I had a book as a kid with about 4 or 5 native villagers holding a dead lammergeier showcasing it's stupidly huge wingspan, really left an impression on me but I can't seem to find that photo (and the book fell apart decades ago). Yes. They also hunt prey more regularly than other vultures, going after tortoises similar in size to them. Actually the bearded vulture feeds mainly on bones and gives way to the griffons in its area. The only vulture it is dominant over is the Egyptian vulture. The Lappet faced vultures and Eurasian black vultures are the most dominant vultures in their area and dominate the martial eagle and golden eagle respectively. They also have the strongest beaks among the vultures. Lappet faced vultures have the largest and strongest beaks of all vultures and care break through fresh hide (except elephants, rhinos, and hippos). They are also the most aggressive of the vultures. Old world vultures have stronger beaks and more developed feet than new world vultures generally. White headed vultures have the second strongest beaks in Africa but unlike the Lappet faced vulture, it is too small to keep a throng of griffons at bay. |
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Post by Hardcastle on Jan 11, 2023 13:02:11 GMT
I gotta say I had Lappet in mind for it's intimidation abilities. I was thinking maybe Griffons still might get the edge for their persistence and aggression and feeding efficiency. They seem to be able to snake their necks in everywhere and just strip a carcass faster than the rest. But yes I have seen single lappets "son" bunches of griffons on occassion.
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Post by oldgreengrolar on Jan 13, 2023 10:03:15 GMT
/\ According to ‘Vultures of Africa’ by Peter Mundy, a Lappet faced vulture can frighten off up to 20 griffons.
Griffons’ beaks are not strong enough to tear open fresh hide and have to wait on Lappet faced vultures or mammalian carnivores or crocs (if the carcass is near a river) to do so.
The red headed vulture is the Lappet faced vulture of India but it lacks the aggression of its African relative.
In ‘Raptors of the World’, they give way to a bunch of griffons.
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