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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2023 17:20:38 GMT
I have dug into research on this topic before. Don't have time to dig up the studies now, but there are actually LOADs of them because it's a medical issue that is relevant to treating different ethnicities. When it comes to both bone density and muscle mass to body weight ratio, White people are basically in the middle. Below them are east asians and lower still are South Asians (Pakistanis/Indians/Bangladeshis/etc). Latin americans are about equal to whites. Above them are sub saharan africans but even above them are polynesians. It's relevant to doctors in assessing how overweight people are and how at risk of diabetes and heart problems they are. So what they found is Indians can seem like a healthy weight but actually be overweight and suffering ill health. Polynesians can be the opposite, seem overweight and even look overweight and be surprisingly healthy. I do believe this phenomenon is responsible for the fact sports are dominated by african americans, and polynesians are extremely overrepresented (per head of population) in American football and rugby. I agree with your ranking just from watching kids at my school in PE class. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2023 18:06:54 GMT
Yes white people were fairly rugged and savage barbarians, herding semi-wild livestock but also hunting extensively (early livestock management basically IS hunting), and of course engaging in a lot of violent warfare and leading rough and tumble existences. The romans considered them savage animals, and often selected them to be body guards and gladiators because they were definitely superior athletes/warriors to mediterranean, middle eastern and north african people. They basically inherited modern western civilisation from the fall of rome, it's not their natural lifestyle that they are actually adapted to live, so they retain more utilitarian builds than some of the more long-civilised people. And in just pure brute strength only, they are arguably top contenders with anyone (arguably the best going by strong-man contests, but I stop short of concluding that due to exposure/participation). Obviously they are not as fast or explosive as equatorial west africans, and there is still the bone density and robusticity advantage of pacific islanders (both melanesian/australoids and polynesians). Possibly northern europeans and pacific islanders share some significant adaptation for warfare specifically. My stepdaughter is a papua new guinean. They are explosive and densely muscled with possibly the most robust bones (there needs to be more research on them). Polynesians officially have the most robust bones out of all the people extensively researched, but polynesians are actually 30% papuan by DNA. They were created by proto-asiatics (think like native americans) hybridising with papuans as they began to embark out into the pacific. So it's possible their robusticity is actually borrowed from papuans and papuans may be even more proportionately robust (or at least equal). Anecdotally this is a commonly observed phenomenon. When people play papuans in rugby, they might win, but they always say the same thing- that their bodies are more sore and beaten up than when they play anyone else. Even Samoans will complain about this. Papuans are extremely dense and hard like short bowling balls made of granite. My wife actually had some physiological characteristics measured when she signed up for a university gym and they said they had never had a woman with the muscle mass to body weight ratio she has, ever in the building. They also were unable to penetrate her back muscles with the epidural needle when she was having our first baby. They asked if she grew up hauling heavy loads or something because her back muscles were incredibly dense and they couldn't get through them (or without causing a lot of discomfort), and this is not the case, she grew up a pampered princess nerd, but just naturally has weird muscles. Her bones are really heavy, her feet are weirdly wide. She's just an ox, lol. So papuans are ... different. But are very understudied. Aborigines are interesting, related to papuans but leaner and lighter. Still have very dense robust bones. An aborigine was also the first non-west african to break the 100 metres in under 10 seconds barrier (Patrick Johnson). Aborigines have another interesting attribute, which is far superior vision than every one else. They have been tested to have far better than 20/20 vision, and when aborigines have eye problems and then have them fixed and have their vision restored to 20/20, they find it terribly insufficient. I have witnessed in person the incredible visual abilities of aborigines, they can give see minute details in things very far away. They also have incredible hand-eye coordination and reflexes. The disadvantage I talked about applies to them worse than anyone in the world, and so it is difficult for them to have positive outcomes. They have the worst outcomes of anyone. The highest incarceration rates, lowest literacy rates, highest suicide rates, highest substance abuse rates, highest domestic violence and child abuse rates etc etc etc. So for an aborigine to dig out of their pit of disadvantage is quite a feat. Despite this, they are 2% of the population and 600% overrepresented in the professional rugby league of Australia (NRL), and about 400+% overrepresented in the AFL. They make up 12% of NRL players and 9% of AFL players, at 2% of the population. And the wasted potential stories are endless. This gets more striking when you look at "the greatest players of all time", where they way WAY overrepresent. In the NRL the best forward of all time is an aborigine (Artie Beetson), the best playmaker of all time is an aborigine (Jonathan Thurston), and the best outside back of all time is an aborigine (Greg Inglis). Those are the 3 main categories of player. They have even made it into the NBA and NFL and been world champion boxers (Lionel Rose, Anthony Mundine). Their potential hasn't even begun to be tapped into, really. It's perhaps no coincidence they are by far the MOST "stone age" of all peoples that remain on earth. Their isolation meant that when europeans landed on Australia the aborigines they found were like a window into humans circa 100 000 BC (which is when they left africa). They built no shelter whatsoever, no clothes, had no bows and arrows and their spears or the most part didn't even have stone tips. They were the most "raw" hunter gatherers to remain on earth, so I think it is no coincidence they have some fairly special attributes. However they are sadly mostly going to waste. Wow, even the hostile, isolated North Sentinelese have bows and arrows. |
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Post by Hardcastle on Jan 4, 2023 21:39:21 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2023 6:52:45 GMT
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Post by Johnson on Jan 5, 2023 7:04:36 GMT
They have, in fact lots of pretty good athletes are italian. I guess they have been a cosmopolitan multicultural society for so long so potentially it's hard to know who the "pure" natives are, if they are anywhere. The "barbarians" from the north set up shop in Italy in roman times, many never left and many infused into the population. As probably did other types of people over the millenia. It seems historically they were smaller than northern europeans, and definitely were one of the earlier "merchant" agricultural societies. Occasionally you see those very classic small brown/olive little old (often bow legged) italian men and I'd say they are products of a diminished need for physicality. But like I said it was the centre of the world, and so it's now like saying "what are new york people like?", can't really generalise. But I suspect originally, before expanding their empire and absorbing other cultures and ethnicities, they probably weren't that physically imposing. Hawaiians are just polynesians, so same thing really as samoans and tongans and maori and cook islanders etc. I notice they seem to more often be mixed today however, and for whatever reason don't often seem AS physically imposing as tongans, samoans and maori. Not sure why, may need a larger sample size. Have to confess. I went on a vacation to Hawaii over a decade back. I was hoping to see Hula girls in coconut bras and grass skirts. There was no booked festival in the trip but I was still hoping to see a hula girl. Instead I saw more tourist. The 'natives' I did hangout with were mixed race. The handful of women I saw were old and stocky. There was one cute petite native/Asian girl selling sándwiches, but that was about it. I did see some bikini women in a snorkelling trip, but they were European and Asian. Also, many of the hotels or activities were predominately coordinated by White people. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2023 7:13:51 GMT
They have, in fact lots of pretty good athletes are italian. I guess they have been a cosmopolitan multicultural society for so long so potentially it's hard to know who the "pure" natives are, if they are anywhere. The "barbarians" from the north set up shop in Italy in roman times, many never left and many infused into the population. As probably did other types of people over the millenia. It seems historically they were smaller than northern europeans, and definitely were one of the earlier "merchant" agricultural societies. Occasionally you see those very classic small brown/olive little old (often bow legged) italian men and I'd say they are products of a diminished need for physicality. But like I said it was the centre of the world, and so it's now like saying "what are new york people like?", can't really generalise. But I suspect originally, before expanding their empire and absorbing other cultures and ethnicities, they probably weren't that physically imposing. Hawaiians are just polynesians, so same thing really as samoans and tongans and maori and cook islanders etc. I notice they seem to more often be mixed today however, and for whatever reason don't often seem AS physically imposing as tongans, samoans and maori. Not sure why, may need a larger sample size. Have to confess. I went on a vacation to Hawaii over a decade back. I was hoping to see Hula girls in coconut bras and grass skirts. There was no booked festival in the trip but I was still hoping to see a hula girl. Instead I saw more tourist. The 'natives' I did hangout with were mixed race. The handful of women I saw were old and stocky. There was one cute petite native/Asian girl selling sándwiches, but that was about it. I did see some bikini women in a snorkelling trip, but they were European and Asian. Also, many of the hotels or activities were predominately coordinated by White people. You had a perfect shot to kidnap sandwich girl and extradite her to your country. Then again maybe you'd want her to populate the area with more mixed breed sandwich girls. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2023 7:14:37 GMT
I will say whites are annoying when you go to countries and see nothing but stupid whites.
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Post by Johnson on Jan 5, 2023 7:30:38 GMT
I will say whites are annoying when you go to countries and see nothing but stupid whites. Yeah. but at least the tours/activities looked well maintained. Yes. I want a good population of sandwich girls. The more there are, the more likely I will get hula girls roaming around everywhere.   |
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Post by Hardcastle on Jan 5, 2023 7:38:00 GMT
Yeah if you don't like chunky thick chicks you're probably gonna struggle finding the classic "polynesian beauty" the old explorers and sailors talked about.  The abundance of food in the modern world is so unlike the conditions polynesians adapted to. They are incredibly good at storing calories as fat reserves, they are built to endure fasting over long periods(and distances on the sea), so yeah most polynesians are fat. Acquiring adequate nutrition these days is just too easy for these masters of surviving lean times. Some young ones are just "thicc" in a nice way, and there are some lean exceptions here and there, but not many. I still think they are very beautiful even when they are chunky. But that's me. Your best bet for what you seek would be Tahiti or Rapa Nui, probably. When I see the traditional dancers looking like they used to they tend to be in those places. |
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Post by Johnson on Jan 5, 2023 20:41:15 GMT
Did Marlon Brando hit the jackpot with Tarita Teriipaia or were these women commonplace at that time period?
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Post by Hardcastle on Jan 5, 2023 21:54:39 GMT
No I think they were very commonplace, I mean as commonplace as polynesians go in general (they're not a very abundant people, globally). I actually think polynesians don't vary that much in basic appearance. This is Tarita Teriipaia-  And I feel like I've seen her on the street many times, literally the exact same face, but these days most will just be fatter. Not all. I still see girls who look exactly like this occassionally. Here's some random modern polynesian girl in Sydney-  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2023 22:14:15 GMT
^ She resembles a Filipina but there's something else that I can't really put into words. Doesn't look Asian enough ig.
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Post by Hardcastle on Jan 5, 2023 22:41:12 GMT
Sometimes a thick asian will trick me into thinking she's a polynesian. They are related. East asians, south east asians, siberians, inuits/eskimos, mongolians, polynesians and native americans (north and south) all descend from a "proto asian" austronesian type of people who were probably a bit like this guy-  They split off from people who were like Australian aborigines, papuans or negritos about 15 000 years ago (possibly up to 20 000 years ago - I speculate that the domestication of the dog is actually what drove this evolution). This asiatic lineage all share a bit of a similarity in looks, but the bone robusticity varies quite a lot. Polynesians are the "pantherine" or "gripping dog" strain, if you will, because they are naturally much more sturdy and bulky than the others. |
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Post by Johnson on Jan 5, 2023 23:00:00 GMT
No I think they were very commonplace, I mean as commonplace as polynesians go in general (they're not a very abundant people, globally). I actually think polynesians don't vary that much in basic appearance. This is Tarita Teriipaia- And I feel like I've seen her on the street many times, literally the exact same face, but these days most will just be fatter. Not all. I still see girls who look exactly like this occassionally. Here's some random modern polynesian girl in Sydney- Did Polynesian women wear makeshift bikinis or is that a modern invention?Tarita wears those bikinis in many of her photos. Also, the second girl in your photo is Sydney Park, who is mixed with Korean and Black. I swear the next time I go to a Polynesian Island, I am going to attend a dancing festival to get a good view of these chicks. The sandwich girl could have been a genuine Asian transplant due to her petite body. If I ever see anyone similar to her on a Polynesian Island, I will try to date the person. |
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Post by Hardcastle on Jan 5, 2023 23:07:05 GMT
Really? My mistake... I actually searched for "Sydney Polynesian", looking for a random polynesian girl in sydney, lol. Shame on me. At the same time fuck google. Asian x black looking polynesian actually isn't THAT weird when you understand the background make up of polynesians. Let me try again. These are real actual polynesian girls in Sydney-  |
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