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Post by Paul on Dec 29, 2022 18:31:33 GMT
Any opinions on Chesapeake bay retrievers?
I have a dog that is a black lab mix. She’s more muscular and tough acting than a lab (and smaller). I always thought it was because she probably had some pit bull in her. Then someone was petting her and felt waves in her coat and mentioned she may have Chesapeake bay retriever in her also and not pit bull (she lacks the square jaw also). Looking into that breed I had no idea America had another “tough” dog. The Chesapeake’s toughness seems more against the elements (cold) than against other dogs or animals.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2022 18:38:05 GMT
Who are you? Chesapeake Bay Retrievers can be pretty mean. Regular labs can be as well but yeah they're pretty jolly dogs. If it's part pitbull it wouldn't make a difference besides heightened animal aggression and perhaps more friendliness. My uncle getting bit on the face by a Pitador not withstanding...
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Post by Paul on Dec 29, 2022 19:10:39 GMT
Who are you? Chesapeake Bay Retrievers can be pretty mean. Regular labs can be as well but yeah they're pretty jolly dogs. If it's part pitbull it wouldn't make a difference besides heightened animal aggression and perhaps more friendliness. My uncle getting bit on the face by a Pitador not withstanding... Well I’m nobody in particular. I found my way to this board because I started enjoying Antonio Hardcastle’s posts on Quora. (I found those when I was looking into my dog’s propensity to be a bully toward other dogs that are weaker…) She is friendly toward all humans thankfully though the delivery drivers can’t be sure about that. When she has gotten in a fight her aggression doesn’t get turned on me accidentally when separated. I’m still not sure what her mix is and am tempted to get genetic testing…though I felt like a lot of things started to make sense reading about Chessies… I’ll try and post a picture..
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2022 19:41:13 GMT
Who are you? Chesapeake Bay Retrievers can be pretty mean. Regular labs can be as well but yeah they're pretty jolly dogs. If it's part pitbull it wouldn't make a difference besides heightened animal aggression and perhaps more friendliness. My uncle getting bit on the face by a Pitador not withstanding... Well I’m nobody in particular. I found my way to this board because I started enjoying Antonio Hardcastle’s posts on Quora. (I found those when I was looking into my dog’s propensity to be a bully toward other dogs that are weaker…) She is friendly toward all humans thankfully though the delivery drivers can’t be sure about that. When she has gotten in a fight her aggression doesn’t get turned on me accidentally when separated. I’m still not sure what her mix is and am tempted to get genetic testing…though I felt like a lot of things started to make sense reading about Chessies… I’ll try and post a picture.. You should make an account instead of being a guest. Antonio indeed makes good posts.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2022 19:43:09 GMT
Who are you? Chesapeake Bay Retrievers can be pretty mean. Regular labs can be as well but yeah they're pretty jolly dogs. If it's part pitbull it wouldn't make a difference besides heightened animal aggression and perhaps more friendliness. My uncle getting bit on the face by a Pitador not withstanding... Well I’m nobody in particular. I found my way to this board because I started enjoying Antonio Hardcastle’s posts on Quora. (I found those when I was looking into my dog’s propensity to be a bully toward other dogs that are weaker…) She is friendly toward all humans thankfully though the delivery drivers can’t be sure about that. When she has gotten in a fight her aggression doesn’t get turned on me accidentally when separated. I’m still not sure what her mix is and am tempted to get genetic testing…though I felt like a lot of things started to make sense reading about Chessies… I’ll try and post a picture.. I found out as a guest it doesn’t give you the option to “add attachment”, though there are definitely other ways to show the picture.
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Post by Paul on Dec 29, 2022 19:46:42 GMT
Thanks I will sign up.
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Post by Paul on Dec 29, 2022 19:47:00 GMT
Thanks I will sign up.
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Post by Hardcastle on Dec 29, 2022 20:00:11 GMT
Welcome Paul! Feel free to join if you like. I'm no retriever expert, but Chesapeake bay retrievers are known to be bigger and stronger than labs, and also stand-offish and less friendly. More serious and business like. They're also an older breed, which is surprising somewhat because I bet most of us heard of Labradors and golden retrievers before we heard about Chesapeakes. But chesapeakes were actually established and well known earlier. It is thought that ALL retrievers actually descend from Newfoundlands, which were first brought back to England from Canada in the 1700s. Though they looked a little different- And were realistically "mongrels". It seems these were actually the result of crossing mastiff mountain dogs with bird dogs, which for some reason is a practice mentioned a few times in the 1600s and 1700s in Britain, and evidently was also done in North America, or at least the brits took their mastiff/bird mixes to North America. Either way. They then exported some of these dogs back to Britain in the 1700s and they made quite an impression, and this lead to the formation of the breeds - Newfoundland, Labrador Retriever, and Golden Retriever all in the 1800s. All actually british dogs, but in the case of the lab and the newf, named after canada as homage to their origins. The chesapeake is a little different because it's genuinely american, or at least didn't come back to england before getting a breed name. It stayed working in North America around Virginia and Maryland and was actually a known distinct type. It was basically "Virginia's Newfoundland" way back in the 1700s and possibly earlier. Again really a working mongrel comprised of mastiff and spaniel and hound. These mongrel origins are why some retrievers look very different, like the Nova Scotia Duck Tolling retriever, where they obviously went a little hard on the collie for some reason- If I had to pick a retriever which is the coolest one, I think it would definitely be the Chesapeake because it's kind of the "authentic issue", rather than a fabricated homage to the "interesting dogs of new england/canada". It probably most closely represents the dog that got sent back to england and impressed them. A big burly dog specialised for working in the cold atlantic waters.
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Post by paul on Dec 29, 2022 21:23:19 GMT
Thanks I joined up but still can’t figure out how to post a picture. Yes I feel like I stumbled upon a piece of Americana with this breed of dog that would look right at home standing next to people in Civil War pictures.
I wasn’t even hugely interested in the different breeds until looking at this one, figuring no matter the breed they are all 99% wolf. But the difference in temperament between a dog that can look like a lab and be used the same way as a lab is a little astonishing to me and makes me a believer in different breeds.
That said I still don’t know if my dog has any in her or how much. It makes me think of becoming a hunter though (which I am not) just to gain greater appreciation of the primal bond available between man and dog…
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Post by paul on Dec 29, 2022 21:24:02 GMT
Thanks I joined up but still can’t figure out how to post a picture. Yes I feel like I stumbled upon a piece of Americana with this breed of dog that would look right at home standing next to people in Civil War pictures.
I wasn’t even hugely interested in the different breeds until looking at this one, figuring no matter the breed they are all 99% wolf. But the difference in temperament between a dog that can look like a lab and be used the same way as a lab is a little astonishing to me and makes me a believer in different breeds.
That said I still don’t know if my dog has any in her or how much. It makes me think of becoming a hunter though (which I am not) just to gain greater appreciation of the primal bond available between man and dog…
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Post by Hardcastle on Dec 29, 2022 21:33:27 GMT
Thanks I joined up but still can’t figure out how to post a picture. Yes I feel like I stumbled upon a piece of Americana with this breed of dog that would look right at home standing next to people in Civil War pictures. I wasn’t even hugely interested in the different breeds until looking at this one, figuring no matter the breed they are all 99% wolf. But the difference in temperament between a dog that can look like a lab and be used the same way as a lab is a little astonishing to me and makes me a believer in different breeds. That said I still don’t know if my dog has any in her or how much. It makes me think of becoming a hunter though (which I am not) just to gain greater appreciation of the primal bond available between man and dog… That's a great idea. You don't have to get serious about hunting, just take your dog out in the wilderness and watch it do it's thing, that will teach you a lot, not just about dogs and hunting but about the natural environment in that area and all the animals in it too. I see dogs as a conduit to the natural world. With pictures, yes ... We all got a little spoiled with how things work on quora where it just automatically posts the pic when you paste the address or click on the upload icon. It's a little trickier on these old forums, but you get used to it. Instead of posting in the quick reply box you can click on the yellow "reply to thread" button and get all the tools, including the picture frame looking icon and you just click on that and post the address of the pic in there. Alternatively there is a way to put "img" tags around the address using these - "[ ] [/ ]" but it's kind of hard to explain.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2022 21:40:18 GMT
Note that sometimes image addresses don't work and a new one is required.
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