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Post by lincoln on Jan 7, 2024 7:19:07 GMT
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Post by lincoln on Jan 7, 2024 7:20:44 GMT
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Post by Hardcastle on Jan 7, 2024 8:10:07 GMT
Easy money for the Jaguar frankly. Female jaguars have killed caiman 5 feet longer than the biggest komodo, and even at equal lengths I think a caiman is far above a komodo.
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Post by lincoln on Jan 7, 2024 9:03:16 GMT
Easy money for the Jaguar frankly. Female jaguars have killed caiman 5 feet longer than the biggest komodo, and even at equal lengths I think a caiman is far above a komodo. I agree, I’ve just seen a few people talking about this online and I wanted to see people’s opinions, I just see the Jaguar killing the dragon the same way it kills caiman
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Post by PumAcinonyx SuperCat on Jan 7, 2024 22:51:14 GMT
The jaguar should take this. It is already conversant with dealing with reptilians like the Komodo dragon: caiman, turtles, anacondas. The only thing it will need to watch out for is the lizard's poisonous saliva (bacteria-filled saliva) which would prove fatal if it gets injected into the jaguar. But other than that, the jaguar is safe and has everything needed to take out the dragon without too much difficulty. I also think a leopard or cougar can do this, a jaguar may not even be needed. I understand Komodo dragons can use their tails as weapons by flicking them at prey, but that shouldn't be much of a challenge against an animal as agile as a jaguar. If bobcats are fast enough to react to the attempts of rattlesnakes to bite them, then a cat that is just as agile as a bobcat should be able to react to an even slower attack in the form of the lizard's tail. Even if the jaguar isn't fast enough to dodge, what damage is the tail going to do to it? Nothing, really. I think I've said enough - unless the Komodo injects poison into the jaguar to make it a stalemate, the jaguar wins 100% of the time.
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Post by CoolJohnson on Jan 8, 2024 2:37:37 GMT
The jaguar should take this. It is already conversant with dealing with reptilians like the Komodo dragon: caiman, turtles, anacondas. The only thing it will need to watch out for is the lizard's poisonous saliva (bacteria-filled saliva) which would prove fatal if it gets injected into the jaguar. But other than that, the jaguar is safe and has everything needed to take out the dragon without too much difficulty. I also think a leopard or cougar can do this, a jaguar may not even be needed. I understand Komodo dragons can use their tails as weapons by flicking them at prey, but that shouldn't be much of a challenge against an animal as agile as a jaguar. If bobcats are fast enough to react to the attempts of rattlesnakes to bite them, then a cat that is just as agile as a bobcat should be able to react to an even slower attack in the form of the lizard's tail. Even if the jaguar isn't fast enough to dodge, what damage is the tail going to do to it? Nothing, really. I think I've said enough - unless the Komodo injects poison into the jaguar to make it a stalemate, the jaguar wins 100% of the time. I do agree that the jaguar will win more often. I also think that the leopard or cougar could aslo take this fight. The tail swing might not be much, but there is a video of a small monitor lizard making a dog briefly limp after a tail swing.
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Post by Hardcastle on Jan 8, 2024 11:33:42 GMT
The jaguar should take this. It is already conversant with dealing with reptilians like the Komodo dragon: caiman, turtles, anacondas. The only thing it will need to watch out for is the lizard's poisonous saliva (bacteria-filled saliva) which would prove fatal if it gets injected into the jaguar. But other than that, the jaguar is safe and has everything needed to take out the dragon without too much difficulty. I also think a leopard or cougar can do this, a jaguar may not even be needed. I understand Komodo dragons can use their tails as weapons by flicking them at prey, but that shouldn't be much of a challenge against an animal as agile as a jaguar. If bobcats are fast enough to react to the attempts of rattlesnakes to bite them, then a cat that is just as agile as a bobcat should be able to react to an even slower attack in the form of the lizard's tail. Even if the jaguar isn't fast enough to dodge, what damage is the tail going to do to it? Nothing, really. I think I've said enough - unless the Komodo injects poison into the jaguar to make it a stalemate, the jaguar wins 100% of the time. I do agree that the jaguar will win more often. I also think that the leopard or cougar could aslo take this fight. The tail swing might not be much, but there is a video of a small monitor lizard making a dog briefly limp after a tail swing. Can you give a time stamp? I got bored half way through. By half way I was just more convinced any mammalian tetrapod can easily waltz around any monitor lizard without any risk of being caught with anything.
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Post by CoolJohnson on Jan 8, 2024 18:32:32 GMT
I do agree that the jaguar will win more often. I also think that the leopard or cougar could aslo take this fight. The tail swing might not be much, but there is a video of a small monitor lizard making a dog briefly limp after a tail swing. Can you give a time stamp? I got bored half way through. By half way I was just more convinced any mammalian tetrapod can easily waltz around any monitor lizard without any risk of being caught with anything. I am not sure. It was posted by Komododo. carnivora.net/african-wild-dog-pack-of-2-v-komodo-dragon-t8374-s15.html#p114750
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Post by Hardcastle on Jan 8, 2024 18:37:43 GMT
Well I don't see where he suggested the dog went "briefly limp", that would be a pretty epic tail whomp tbh.
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Post by CoolJohnson on Jan 8, 2024 18:40:49 GMT
Well I don't see where he suggested the dog went "briefly limp", that would be a pretty epic tail whomp tbh. I skimmed the video, and it appears at the end at 7:45.
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Post by Hardcastle on Jan 8, 2024 19:58:29 GMT
Ok so by "going limp" you mean "the dog limps due to hurting its foot".
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Post by grampa on Jun 27, 2024 19:44:30 GMT
Jaguar takes this one easily. I watched a program where Steve Irwin grabbed a large Komodo Dragon by his tail and pulled the big lizard from a carcass. Then Steve let go, and the lizard just rushed back onto the carcass, paying Steve no attention. Anything that dull-witted, although a killer, is not a great fighter.
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Post by bombsonyourmom on Jun 28, 2024 19:00:24 GMT
Jaguar takes this one easily. I watched a program where Steve Irwin grabbed a large Komodo Dragon by his tail and pulled the big lizard from a carcass. Then Steve let go, and the lizard just rushed back onto the carcass, paying Steve no attention. Anything that dull-witted, although a killer, is not a great fighter. Don't really see how that is a sign of low intelligence. Other animals are also known to ignore annoying animals that pull on their tails whilst eating.
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