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Post by PumAcinonyx SuperCat on Dec 21, 2023 14:39:35 GMT
Obviously, not "Cougar vs. Sleep" as in cougar "fighting" sleep. Instead, a compilation of instances of cougars visiting men (hunters) sleeping out in the woods and attempting to preserve them as food for later. Many instances have been reported over the years of travellers falling asleep in the woods, only to awake and find themselves being readied as cougar fodder. In this thread I will post 3 accounts, even though there are many more instances like these. These are the ones I was able to gather. All 3 involved female cougars retuning with their kittens to the intended "dining table", and all 3 got killed by the hunters in question. The three men we will talk about are Jonathan Wheaton, Henry Utt, and Slowtrap. I hope this will be something everybody enjoys going through. I know some guys come around only periodically. I'm hoping they'll see this when they return, that's why I tagged so many people: Hardcastle, Bolushi, lincoln kevin grippingwhiteness, s, @firejaguar2022, bongoeurycerus, bombsonyourmom, ar7pr, CoolJohnson, duriaantiquior, grampa, Hafstanni, wermthewerm, account_disabled, account_disabled, eternallyhungry, Shortridge, oldgreengrolar, ophio, Methane, Musth, account_disabled, account_disabled So, here we have: CougarVS Sleeping hunter
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Post by PumAcinonyx SuperCat on Dec 21, 2023 14:43:28 GMT
First Account: Jonathan Wheaton's experience with a cougar on the Capouse Mountain Taken From: WHEATON AND THE PANTHER (Pages 490-491)
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Post by PumAcinonyx SuperCat on Dec 21, 2023 14:48:33 GMT
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Post by PumAcinonyx SuperCat on Dec 21, 2023 14:53:55 GMT
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Post by PumAcinonyx SuperCat on Dec 21, 2023 15:12:53 GMT
Staying safe in cougar territory
The cougar's method of storing prey is covering it over with sticks, leaves and other forms of debris. This serves two purposes: protects the meal from thieves/scavengers like foxes, bobcats, and coyotes, and also keeps the meal fresh until the cougar returns for another feeding. This behaviour, as we have seen, has been carried on to humans too. It's sort of unknown whether cougars think that the sleeping individual is dead, and then, thinking it to be a carcass, they cover it up, OR they actually know the person is alive, but choose not to finish them off. A leopard, I believe, would waste no time ripping a sleeping human to shreds. Just imagine if a leopard found you sleeping: you probably kiss the dust. I actually don't know for certain what its reaction would be (whether it would get to dinner or whether it would act like the cougar), but I kind of get the feeling that you're not living to tell the story. These 3 accounts show why it is indeed a very risky thing to fall asleep in cougar territory. They all were fortunate to have woken up and made preparations before the cougars arrived. Thank goodness they also had a rifle/gun on them to slay the cat when it showed up. In any case, it still is unsafe to sleep in cougar country: it could prove fatal. Best to find a good shelter or set a perimeter (boundary) around where you'll sleep (if you can), like barbwires or an electric fence for example. You can also use a tent, I guess that could keep you safe. It is risky to fall asleep in cougar country. Female cougars in particular, are prone to covering over their ''treasure'' and making speedy returns to their intended victim's location to feed the victim to their kittens
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Post by Hardcastle on Dec 22, 2023 14:19:24 GMT
Interesting stuff. I often prefer these old tymey accounts. I find the way they write easier to read, more poetic and entertaining, than modern robotic scientists.
The idea of the puma seeing a sleeping man and then casually going to get her cubs so they can all come back and eat him is kind of darkly comical, but it is sad they ended up being shot. Would have preferred they enjoyed their meal.
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Post by Shortridge on Dec 28, 2023 11:32:44 GMT
Staying safe in cougar territory
The cougar's method of storing prey is covering it over with sticks, leaves and other forms of debris. This serves two purposes: protects the meal from thieves/scavengers like foxes, bobcats, and coyotes, and also keeps the meal fresh until the cougar returns for another feeding. This behaviour, as we have seen, has been carried on to humans too. It's sort of unknown whether cougars think that the sleeping individual is dead, and then, thinking it to be a carcass, they cover it up, OR they actually know the person is alive, but choose not to finish them off. A leopard, I believe, would waste no time ripping a sleeping human to shreds. Just imagine if a leopard found you sleeping: you probably kiss the dust. I actually don't know for certain what its reaction would be (whether it would get to dinner or whether it would act like the cougar), but I kind of get the feeling that you're not living to tell the story. These 3 accounts show why it is indeed a very risky thing to fall asleep in cougar territory. They all were fortunate to have woken up and made preparations before the cougars arrived. Thank goodness they also had a rifle/gun on them to slay the cat when it showed up. In any case, it still is unsafe to sleep in cougar country: it could prove fatal. Best to find a good shelter or set a perimeter (boundary) around where you'll sleep (if you can), like barbwires or an electric fence for example. You can also use a tent, I guess that could keep you safe. It is risky to fall asleep in cougar country. Female cougars in particular, are prone to covering over their ''treasure'' and making speedy returns to their intended victim's location to feed the victim to their kittens Jesus that cub looks like a cheetah. Crazy. Anyway, not to go off-topic but since you mentioned leopards and they're similar animals. Leopards can become a nightmare for humans. Nowadays you have people coexisting with them (e.g. Jawai, Mumbai) but it can be way different. The leopard of Rudraprayag: - killed over 125 people
- people were afraid to venture alone at night on the road for 8 years
- the leopard would break down doors, leap through windows, claw through the mud or thatch walls of huts and drag the occupants out before devouring them
- Indian and British soldiers were sent to track it, but failed
- attempts to kill the leopard with high powered gin traps and poison failed
- well-known hunters tried to capture the leopard and the British government offered financial rewards
- Jim Corbett killed the leopard after a ten-week hunt
"Here was only an old leopard, who differed from others of his kind in that his muzzle was grey and his lips lacked whiskers; the best-hated and MOST FEARED ANIMAL in all India, whose crime -not against the laws of nature but against the laws of Man-was that he had shed human blood, with no object of terrorising man, but only in order that he might live; and who now, with his chin resting on the rim of the hole and his eyes half-closed, was peacefully sleeping his ling last sleep..."
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