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Post by lincoln on Nov 6, 2023 21:42:44 GMT
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Post by lincoln on Nov 6, 2023 21:44:10 GMT
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Post by oldgreengrolar on Nov 7, 2023 8:48:02 GMT
Sloth bear wins.
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Post by Hardcastle on Nov 7, 2023 10:21:31 GMT
I feel like you have to say sloth bear wins just based on sloth bear vs tiger, BUT what is interesting and kind of funny is leopards actually have more impressive performance in regards to at least not being SO intimidated by sloth bears the way tigers are. Have sloth bears had to learn the hard way to be scared because they prey on them? I don't know, but it is interesting.
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Post by oldgreengrolar on Nov 7, 2023 11:22:33 GMT
I feel like you have to say sloth bear wins just based on sloth bear vs tiger, BUT what is interesting and kind of funny is leopards actually have more impressive performance in regards to at least not being SO intimidated by sloth bears the way tigers are. Have sloth bears had to learn the hard way to be scared because they prey on them? I don't know, but it is interesting. I didn't say it based on that. I said it based on the fact sloth bears are heavier and rob leopards of their meals every now and then. Regarding the leopard's performance, I am not too sure if they are more impressive. Sloth bears have chased off tigers in skermish fights but the larger tiger has also killed sloth bears and should be more aggressive than a leopard at least. The only report of a leopard killing a sloth bear was a male killing a 3/4 grown female sloth bear, the leopard also died. When you said the leopard has a more impressive performance, do you mean they paw swipe at the sloth bear before running off or is there something more. Been busy lately. |
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Post by Hardcastle on Nov 7, 2023 12:03:30 GMT
I just mean a few interactions I've seen the leopards looked braver than the tigers I've seen interacting with sloth bears. Not a big thing, just a funny observation. They didn't actually do anything, but weren't so scared as tigers usually are.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2023 16:34:17 GMT
No leopard could do this.
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Post by CoolJohnson on Nov 7, 2023 19:32:40 GMT
I feel like you have to say sloth bear wins just based on sloth bear vs tiger, BUT what is interesting and kind of funny is leopards actually have more impressive performance in regards to at least not being SO intimidated by sloth bears the way tigers are. Have sloth bears had to learn the hard way to be scared because they prey on them? I don't know, but it is interesting. I didn't say it based on that. I said it based on the fact sloth bears are heavier and rob leopards of their meals every now and then. Regarding the leopard's performance, I am not too sure if they are more impressive. Sloth bears have chased off tigers in skermish fights but the larger tiger has also killed sloth bears and should be more aggressive than a leopard at least. The only report of a leopard killing a sloth bear was a male killing a 3/4 grown female sloth bear, the leopard also died.When you said the leopard has a more impressive performance, do you mean they paw swipe at the sloth bear before running off or is there something more. Been busy lately. The leopard did not die to that 3/4 grown sloth bear. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2023 20:45:58 GMT
Leopard is doomed, even a north Iranian leopard would get melted.
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Post by PumAcinonyx SuperCat on Nov 8, 2023 6:02:43 GMT
The sloth bear wins. It is bigger, stronger, more durable, and even proves very tough for a much larger cat, the tiger. |
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Post by oldgreengrolar on Nov 8, 2023 11:44:21 GMT
I didn't say it based on that. I said it based on the fact sloth bears are heavier and rob leopards of their meals every now and then. Regarding the leopard's performance, I am not too sure if they are more impressive. Sloth bears have chased off tigers in skermish fights but the larger tiger has also killed sloth bears and should be more aggressive than a leopard at least. The only report of a leopard killing a sloth bear was a male killing a 3/4 grown female sloth bear, the leopard also died.When you said the leopard has a more impressive performance, do you mean they paw swipe at the sloth bear before running off or is there something more. Been busy lately. The leopard did not die to that 3/4 grown sloth bear. Could you post that account just to refresh my memory? Much appreciated. |
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Post by CoolJohnson on Nov 9, 2023 0:18:55 GMT
The leopard did not die to that 3/4 grown sloth bear. Could you post that account just to refresh my memory? Much appreciated. Leopard kills and eats sloth bear. Leopard runs away when spotted by the researchers.  Kurt, F. and Jayasuriya, A. (1968). Notes on a dead bear. Loris, 11: 182-183. |
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Post by grampa on Nov 14, 2023 8:56:50 GMT
One December morning a few years ago, I witnessed the unusual sight of a sloth bear feeding on a buffalo calf. I came upon a fresh leopard kill about 5 metres off the Talgasmankade road in Yala National Park. The leopard had obviously been disturbed by our approach and had not consumed any part of the kill; it had, however, made an incision about 10 cm wide in the skin of the stomach. As the leopard was not in evidence, we left the area, but returned at around 2.30 that same afternoon. We spotted the leopard, a young male, on a tamarind tree about 50 metres into the jungle. I parked the jeep about 30 metres from the kill, and whiled away the time taking photographs of the leopard on the tree. Suddenly, I heard rustling sound coming from behind the jeep. A sloth bear was approaching the kill, downwind, and therefore oblivious of my presence. The leopard, seeing the bear, slipped down the tree and went towards the dead calf, obviously anxious to protect its spoils. The bear took no notice of him, but kept sniffing the air and following the drag-mark made by the leopard earlier on, which meant he was not taking the most direct path to kill. The leopard sped towards the bear, belly to the ground, making low snarling, hissing sounds. The bear did not relent however, even as the big cat sprang at him thus three more times. Outdone, and in no mood for a fight, the leopard retreated to a small hollow in the thorny scrub. The bear did not bother to pursue him. The confrontation had been a noisy one, but with absolutely no physical contact. The bear then opened up the calf's stomach and began sucking on the gory juices. Then, using his paw, he tore out the intestines and ate them. Next, while holding down the carcass with one paw, he opened out the young buffalo's chest with a single sweep of the other paw and fed on the heart and lungs, sucking up all the blood in the cavity. It was interesting to note that he did not eat any of the 'flesh' (muscle). After feeding for about an hour and a half, the bear sat down patiently, cleaned his paws and face, rolled on the sandy road, and then ambled off in the same direction from whence he had come. Some minutes after his departure, the leopard came out of the thicket and started feeding. We left him to his meal. shaggygod.proboards.com/thread/686/sloth-bear-robbing-leopard  |
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Post by grampa on Nov 14, 2023 9:05:11 GMT
This is the reason that I believe that more adult male tigers are displaced from their kills by brown bears than is known about. Most often, nearly every event, when a sloth bear displaces a leopard, or either a black bear or a grizzly displaces a cougar, there is no physical contact. The big cat simply relinquishes his kill . This is simply natural cat behavior. I have no reason to think that a tiger would behave any differently.
Also note, when the big cat simply walks away from the carcass when he sees the bear coming, there is left behind no physical evidence that the cat ever saw the bear. The biologist who blunders upon the kill site simply notes that there were both a bear and a tiger feeding, but no interaction between the two. He - the expert - has no clue that the tiger was displaced by the brown bear.
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