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Post by Bolushi on Oct 9, 2023 13:23:24 GMT
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Post by Bolushi on Oct 9, 2023 13:23:29 GMT
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Post by grampa on Oct 10, 2023 18:09:11 GMT
This is probably as close as we could possibly get to a King Kong vs T-rex face-off, like in the 1933 classic movie (still the best movie version).
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Post by grampa on Oct 10, 2023 19:01:11 GMT
Alioramus dinopedia.fandom.com/wiki/Alioramus Alioramus (/ˌælioʊˈreɪməs/; meaning 'different branch') is a genus of tyrannosaurid theropod dinosaurs from the Late Cretaceous period of Asia. The type species, A. remotus, is known from a partial skull and three foot bones recovered from Mongolian sediments which were deposited in a humid floodplain about 70 million years ago. These remains were named and described by Soviet paleontologist Sergei Kurzanov in 1976. A second species, A. altai, known from a much more complete skeleton, was named and described by Stephen L. Brusatte and colleagues in 2009. Its relationships to other tyrannosaurid genera are unclear, with some evidence supporting a hypothesis that Alioramus is closely related to the contemporary species Tarbosaurus bataar. The jaws were lined with about 78 daggerlike teeth. More than any other tyrannosaur. ___________________________________________ Characteristics Alioramus were bipedal like all known theropods, and their sharp teeth indicate that they were carnivores. Known specimens were smaller than other tyrannosaurids like Tarbosaurus bataar and Tyrannosaurus rex, but their adult size is difficult to estimate since both species are known only from juvenile or sub-adult remains. The recent discovery of Qianzhousaurus indicates that it belongs to a distinct branch of tyrannosaur. The genus Alioramus is characterized by a row of five bony crests along the top of the snout, a greater number of teeth than any other genus of tyrannosaurid, and a lower skull than other tyrannosaurids. ___________________________________________ Alioramus altai Paleontologists have long classified Alioramus within the superfamily Tyrannosauroidea, but because its remains were for many years poorly known, a more precise classification had remained elusive until the discovery of A. altai. A cladistic analysis published in 2003 found Alioramus could be further classified into the family Tyrannosauridae and the subfamily Tyrannosaurinae, alongside Tyrannosaurus, Tarbosaurus and Daspletosaurus. A 2004 study supported this result but suggested it was equally probable that Alioramus belonged outside the family Tyrannosauridae entirely, with its supposed juvenile characters actually reflecting a more basal position within Tyrannosauroidea. Another study omitted Alioramus altogether due to the only specimen's fragmentary nature. The discovery of A. altai in 2009 confirmed the placement of the genus within the Tyrannosaurinae. Tarbosaurus and Alioramus shared several skull features, including a locking mechanism in the lower jaw between the dentary and angular bones, and both lacked the prong of the nasal bones which connected to the lacrimal bones in all other tyrannosaurids except adult Daspletosaurus. The two genera may be closely related, representing an Asian branch of the Tyrannosauridae. Some specimens of Tarbosaurus have a row of bumps on the nasal bones like those of Alioramus, although much lower. The long and low shape of the only known Alioramus remotus skull indicated that it was immature when it died and might even have been a juvenile Tarbosaurus, which lived in the same time and place. The more prominent nasal crests and much higher tooth count of Alioramus, however, suggested it was a separate taxon, even if it is known only from juvenile remains, confirmed by the discovery of A. altai. Specimens identified as immature Tarbosaurus have the same tooth count as adults.
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Post by grampa on Oct 10, 2023 19:08:12 GMT
According to Carnivora: A. altai at 5 m (16 ft) and 385 kg (849 lb).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2023 19:44:37 GMT
If it's 385 kg then I favour it strongly. Eastern gorillas average 169 kg.
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Post by grampa on Oct 11, 2023 4:47:58 GMT
According to this site: abcdino.com/en/dinosaur/alioramus/ Alioramus stood 2 meters or 6 feet 7 inches tall. If these measurements were made correctly, this means from the hip. So yes, this small tyrannosaur was too big for a debatable face-off with a gorilla.
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Post by grampa on Oct 11, 2023 8:16:07 GMT
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