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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2023 20:44:38 GMT
Mako shark AND great white shark at 30 intelligence  . The mako should be at 40. |
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Post by s on Oct 4, 2023 20:45:27 GMT
HP is just how much damage it can take before dying. Having thick skin that reduces damage taken, for example would count as defense. Not HP. That is very interesting and strange. So durability is defense. And HP is ... what? I think animals are basically equal in how much damage they can take before dying. How much damage they can take without giving up differs. APBT would be 99 HP in that case, but how much damage without dying is just universally equal? Or do you mean it takes more, let's say swings of a hatchet, to kill an orca than a preying mantis? See that would actually be durability, like thick skin... I don't think this distinction really makes sense. How hard they are to kill basically, an Elephant is 100 HP for instance. Turtles are low HP but half Defense since their Shell helps a lot in blocking or reducing damage |
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Post by s on Oct 4, 2023 20:46:11 GMT
Mako shark AND great white shark at 30 intelligence . The mako should be at 40. He also made a Tier List for Holocene/Pleistocene, homever i disagree with some placements. Megaloceros in F-tier is far too harsh. C or B is better i think. |
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Post by bombsonyourmom on Oct 4, 2023 21:16:37 GMT
Tier zoos rankings are all over the place. Sometimes he bases viability on an animals fighting ability and other times he bases it on their survivability in the current age.
For instance, he gave rhinos a low rating because they are endangered but then gave the gorillas a really high rating for being strong even though they are also doing pretty poorly and are way weaker than rhinos.
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Post by Hardcastle on Oct 4, 2023 21:19:22 GMT
Tier zoos rankings are all over the place. Sometimes he bases viability on an animals fighting ability and other times he bases it on their survivability in the current age. For instance, he gave rhinos a low rating because they are endangered but then gave the gorillas a really high rating for being strong even though they are also doing pretty poorly and are way weaker than rhinos. I can basically guarantee this guy doesn't take the topic half as seriously as we do. You can tell by the tone of his videos this is a joke to him, he'd never dream people like us exist to scrutinise his silly shenanigans so. Given that reality, it would be foolish to look up to him as an authority in any way. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2023 21:51:13 GMT
I like how he presents wildlife as some sort of a video game though. That's pretty cool. I'm still mad that makos and great whites are at the same intelligence level btw.
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Post by Bolushi on Oct 5, 2023 1:26:35 GMT
"TierZoo" "Casual Geographic" and stuff like that is pretty much for laymen only. Cool content, fun to watch, BUT not something "Bolushis" "Hardcastles" "Lings" or even "Hammerheads" should be going to for animal information.
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Post by Bolushi on Oct 5, 2023 6:04:43 GMT
For fun, lets try to give different domestic Dog breeds the stats TierZoo uses in his videos, for reference these are the stats he gave several wild Canines. Far from perfect but it's ok for reference
Maned Wolf
Intelligence: 65 Power: 45 Defense: 45 Movility: 85 HP: 40 Stealth: 60
Coyote
Intelligence: 70 Power: 45 Defense: 25 Movility: 75 HP: 30 Stealth: 35
Red Fox
Intelligence: 75 Power: 40 Defense: 30 Movility: 70 HP: 30 Stealth: 35
Wolf
Intelligence: 80 Power: 80 Defense: 30 Movility: 65 HP: 25 Stealth: 50
African Wild Dog
Intelligence: 80 Power: 85 Defense: 25 Movility: 75 HP: 25 Stealth: 65
What scores would you guys give to:
- Bulldog-type Dogs
- Boarhound-type Dogs
- Greyhound-type Dogs
- LGD dogs
Bulldog - Intelligence: 40 Power: 95 Defense: 70 Mobility: 65 HP: 100 Stealth: 20 Bandog version of bulldog - Intelligence: 40 Power: 98 Defense: 100 Mobility: 50 HP: 120 Stealth: 10 Bull Terrier version of bulldog - Intelligence: 75 Power: 88 Defense: 90 Mobility: 80 HP: 80 Stealth: 45 Boarhound - Intelligence: 65 Power: 90 Defense: 55 Mobility: 88 HP: 95 Stealth: 45 Bloodhound version of boarhound - Intelligence: 65 Power: 99 Defense: 80 Mobility: 75 HP: 120 Stealth: 35 Greyhound - Intelligence: 35 Power: 55 Defense: 30 Mobility: 95 HP: 55 Stealth: 75 Lurcher variety of "greyhound" - Intelligence: 80 Power: 50 Defense: 30 Mobility: 100 HP: 55 Stealth: 95 LGD - Intelligence: 90 Power: 100 Defense: 100 Mobility: 55 HP: 150 Stealth: 65 |
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Post by s on Oct 5, 2023 7:33:41 GMT
Power is determined as both robustness/muscularity and damage output, Bulldog's quite high power score would come mostly from the former. With the latter being quite unremarkable
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2023 10:55:29 GMT
Cave bear higher than elephant?
Fox higher than raccoon?
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Post by bombsonyourmom on Nov 4, 2023 21:29:38 GMT
What dogs are the top candidates for sheer strength? Not even talking about jaw power, but core strength the ability to move heavy loads?
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Post by Bolushi on Nov 5, 2023 2:16:18 GMT
What dogs are the top candidates for sheer strength? Not even talking about jaw power, but core strength the ability to move heavy loads? Pound for pound you'd be looking at Staffbulls, overall Central Asian Shepherd. Those 2 families (and families related to them) are the strongest dogs in core strength. Runner-ups that are "strong dogs" but not ridiculous crazy hyperstrong would be Malamutes and Rotts. |
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Post by bombsonyourmom on Nov 5, 2023 2:40:04 GMT
What dogs are the top candidates for sheer strength? Not even talking about jaw power, but core strength the ability to move heavy loads? Pound for pound you'd be looking at Staffbulls, overall Central Asian Shepherd. Those 2 families (and families related to them) are the strongest dogs in core strength. Runner-ups that are "strong dogs" but not ridiculous crazy hyperstrong would be Malamutes and Rotts. I thought some type of draft dog would have the strongest torsos but I can't really find any modern working examples, probably because the role is no longer needed. |
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Post by Hardcastle on Nov 5, 2023 6:01:47 GMT
Pound for pound you'd be looking at Staffbulls, overall Central Asian Shepherd. Those 2 families (and families related to them) are the strongest dogs in core strength. Runner-ups that are "strong dogs" but not ridiculous crazy hyperstrong would be Malamutes and Rotts. I thought some type of draft dog would have the strongest torsos but I can't really find any modern working examples, probably because the role is no longer needed. Malamutes and greater Swiss mountain dogs are (admittedly quite different and unrelated) draught dogs. Even the st Bernard, has the nifty little rescuing people from avalanches story but realistically it's day to day was pulling carts. Rottweilers did a fair bit of it in their history as well. But this job was never high-performance cutthroat competitive stuff, so they are just biggish and strongish. Strength was much more crucial with much higher demands for Bulldogs. Still, size matters and the most powerful dogs overall (as opposed to lbs for lbs) are probably things like central Asian shepherds, st Bernard's, english mastiffs, etc. |
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. The mako should be at 40.
