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Post by Hardcastle on Oct 1, 2023 19:12:06 GMT
Ussuri boar infusion can make feral pigs huge, but so can recent tame bacon pig infusion. "Hogzilla" weighed over 1000 lbs but obviously was recently infused with tame pig or even a stray pig itself-  Domestic pigs bred for meat production reach 800-1000 lbs habitually. So that can confuse matters size wise. It seems 80-150 kgs is the normal range for most populations, then you have shrunken populations like meditteranian boars and indonesian boars where adult males are often 50 kgs, and then you have these rare monster populations which range from 200-350 kgs. Usually "feral pig" populations will ultimately revert to their "wild boar" origins, so that is why aussie feral pigs are 80-150 kgs. That is indicative of the wild boars they descend from. Argentinian feral pigs do tend to be larger and do probably descend at least in part from Ussuri boars. Maybe californian hogs are the same, I haven't heard much about them. Overall it is important to understand that being "genuine wild boars" or "feral pigs" isn't a big distinction, some wild boar populations are wusses, and some feral pig populations are hardcore. Size also is all over the place. I'm inclined to believe that the pigs in coastal california are descended from russian boars because they were all introduced by one guy. www.mchsmuseum.com/boar.html especially because that area in California is currently famous for their large boars but never for pig hunting. Buying Russian boar and introducing them into America doesn't seem an uncommon practice and I wouldn't doubt it happened in Australia too. In Australia the speculation is more about wild boars possibly being introduced before European colonisation from south east asia, maybe even thousands of years ago, perhaps along with dingoes. That is a somewhat "alternate" theory, but I think possibly has some legs. Russian boar infusion... doesn't make much sense for us really. We don't even have russian humans and don't really have any cultural connection, also our boars just aren't that big. They can easily be explained without ussuri boars. |
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Post by grippingwhiteness on Oct 1, 2023 19:15:01 GMT
Guys leopards have been able to take on and successfully prey on Bantengs. A bull arab pack definitely takes this
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Post by ophio on Oct 1, 2023 19:21:46 GMT
I'm inclined to believe that the pigs in coastal california are descended from russian boars because they were all introduced by one guy. www.mchsmuseum.com/boar.html especially because that area in California is currently famous for their large boars but never for pig hunting. Buying Russian boar and introducing them into America doesn't seem an uncommon practice and I wouldn't doubt it happened in Australia too. In Australia the speculation is more about wild boars possibly being introduced before European colonisation from south east asia, maybe even thousands of years ago, perhaps along with dingoes. That is a somewhat "alternate" theory, but I think possibly has some legs. Russian boar infusion... doesn't make much sense for us really. We don't even have russian humans and don't really have any cultural connection, also our boars just aren't that big. They can easily be explained without ussuri boars. Yea in california, there's historical documents that prove where the hogs come from. Might be different in Australia but what struck me were that the hogs were bought in Germany but said to come from Russia. Again the guy could have been scammed but it does seem commonplace from that letter that Europeans would catch some of the biggest baddest pigs which were from Russia and introduce them to hunt. |
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Post by Hardcastle on Oct 1, 2023 19:27:33 GMT
Its plausible, I don't doubt it, I believe in Argentina the Russian boar theory has some pretty solid support as well. I should look into it more one day.
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Post by grippingwhiteness on Oct 1, 2023 19:33:17 GMT
There are no Boars in Australia, Wild Hogs are quite different, they are mixed with domestic Pigs and are a tier below actual Boars in strenght.  That was my honest reaction as well lmfaooo |
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Post by s on Oct 11, 2023 12:07:12 GMT
Its plausible, I don't doubt it, I believe in Argentina the Russian boar theory has some pretty solid support as well. I should look into it more one day. Spain actually has both Boars and a few Wild Hogs, the latter are Boars mixed with Vietnamese Pigs, and are quite noticeably a tier below Boars in strenght. |
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Post by s on Oct 11, 2023 12:08:51 GMT
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Post by Hardcastle on Oct 11, 2023 12:38:41 GMT
Some feral hogs are indeed nerfed and mediocre. Some lack nothing compared to wild boars at all, and in fact can be notoriously nasty and lethal, shocking international hunters with wild boar experience. Some individual genuine wild boars can be incidentally mid as well. Wusses who just scream and give up immediately. It's a mixed bag on both sides. It's even a mixed bag with tame farm pigs. |
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