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Post by Hardcastle on Oct 17, 2023 14:21:52 GMT
No, jaguars have short blunt teeth. They need to crack the osteoderms, its impossible to pierce them. ![Leopard teeth are much longer, for piercing flesh.]() Understood, thanks for correcting Is that true though? Can we get some 2nd and third opinions? I don't recall ever hearing this assertion (leopards longer teeth than jaguars), even though I think the logic is reasonable. Jaguars look like they have pretty long teeth when I glance at a quick google image search. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2023 16:12:22 GMT
Understood, thanks for correcting Is that true though? Can we get some 2nd and third opinions? I don't recall ever hearing this assertion (leopards longer teeth than jaguars), even though I think the logic is reasonable. Jaguars look like they have pretty long teeth when I glance at a quick google image search. Didn't I post this Image? ![Do images even work here?]() |
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Post by Hardcastle on Oct 17, 2023 16:18:44 GMT
Is that true though? Can we get some 2nd and third opinions? I don't recall ever hearing this assertion (leopards longer teeth than jaguars), even though I think the logic is reasonable. Jaguars look like they have pretty long teeth when I glance at a quick google image search. Didn't I post this Image? ![Do images even work here?]() That one isn't. How are you posting it? I can't see an image url address in your quote? Did you try to upload it? If so did you click "add attachment"? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2023 16:24:40 GMT
Didn't I post this Image? ![Do images even work here?]() That one isn't. How are you posting it? I can't see an image url address in your quote? Did you try to upload it? If so did you click "add attachment"? I clicked the "insert image" option up there.  Can you see it now? |
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Post by Hardcastle on Oct 17, 2023 16:51:35 GMT
Yes, can see that.
For "insert image" you need the url address of the image, for a file you have on your phone or computer you need to "add attachment".
And yeah, the leopards teeth look longer in that example, but it is hard to know for sure if it is a species vs species trend or just individual variation.
I notice tigers do seem to have longer teeth than lions as well, and some sources (less than ideal tbh, still looking for more reliable data) actually mention that tigers have canine teeth about half an inch longer than lions on average.
It would be good to get real data for all 4. Actual sample results of measurements done by field researchers.
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Post by s on Oct 17, 2023 17:13:12 GMT
Not a great matchup for the dogs. Bull terriers can beat large monitor lizards like the asian water monitor at parity, but I think the terrier influence is being tapped into for that fight quite a bit. With the komodo reaching 90 kgs, working bull terriers maxing out around 35 kgs, you'd have to look towards bigger dogs and then you are I think losing quickness and proportional killing ability. Big bulldogs are too happy to get bitten, they don't think there's any need to avoid it, aren't compelled or inclined to try and avoid being bitten, and then also are bad at it. They will be sliced badly, lose a lot of blood and also get envenomated. Boarhounds are better, and would be the best option to try, but still are giving up too much size to cause much damage to the dragon IMO. I could see something like a big bull arab or bully grey doing a good job of harassing and beating up the sluggish lizard as it airswings tail swipes and can't land a bite, but it is difficult to see them finishing it off, and if they do slip up they could be badly hurt very fast. Probably favour the komodo at the end of the day over all dogs. Ideally you'd want something that uses hit and run cur tactics, and has the quickness, agility and stamina for that, but also is big enough with enough damage output to get results. Funnily enough a timberwolf might be the best candidate from canidae. Is Komodo Dragon Venom powerful enough to "one-shot" Dogs that aren't careful when approaching them? I have seen videos of them paralyzing adult Hog with a single bite. Small and medium Dogs im sure, large ones im waiting for your opinion, i don't know how much Venom can they take, or how exactly powerful Komodo venom is. |
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Post by Hardcastle on Oct 17, 2023 17:19:05 GMT
Komodo venom takes a good while to incapacitate victims. Hours for small animals, days for big ones. They stealth nip distracted animals and let them run off, then slowly stalk them and maybe harass them a bit until they are too weak to keep running or fighting. What looks like a "one shot", probably wasn't. It is probably the final scene of a long drawn out saga.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2023 17:27:54 GMT
The venom isn't the problem, it's the crazy blood loss and lacerations that come with the komodo's deadly bite.
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Post by Hardcastle on Oct 17, 2023 17:34:30 GMT
Yes, that is the problem if they can land it on a dog that is aware of their presence and infinitely more mobile and agile. One they snuck a nip on... eventually it isn't infinitely more mobile and agile, and then yes the death will likely come from crazy blood loss and lacerations rather than actually dying of venom.
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