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Post by s on Sept 23, 2023 15:41:40 GMT
Mine (Spain):
Currently residing:
Large Predators:
Brown Bear
Gray Wolf
Verdict: good at it is
Small Predators:
Iberian Lynx
Red Fox
European Wildcat
Verdict: there is a bit of lack on the medium predator niche
Cervids:
Red Deer
Fallow Deer
Roe Deer
Verdict: good at it is, with large, medium and small Deer species. I once thought about introducing Moose but they barely had a presence in the Pyrinees in the first place, and i doubt they would be able to adapt to the climate
Large Herbivore:
None
Verdict: Yeah, this niche doesn't really exist here, i would support reintroducing the European Bison to fill it
Medium Herbivore:
Wild Horse
Wild Boar
Mountain Goat
European Muflon
Pyrinnean Chamois
Verdict: Very solid and with good variation overall, homever i think we lack a tree-dwelling medium-sized animal. Which would be filled by the Barbary Machaque, that formally resided here
Birds of Prey:
Golden Eagle
Iberian Imperial Eagle
Osprey
Griffon Vulture
Peregrine Falcon
Royal Ow
Verdict: This list is not exhaustive and there are a couple more, anyways. Good as it is.
Support reintroduction:
When i mention Northern or Southern regions, i mean that i support specifically introducing it there. Spain's climate is pretty varied, i can't imagine an Eurasian Lynx thriving as well in Andalusia as in Catalonia
Small Predators:
Eurasian Lynx (in Northern regions)
Golden Jackal
Large Herbivore:
European Bison (in Northern regions)
Medium Herbivore:
Barbary Macaque (in Southern Regions)
Overall, a good compromise between not radically altering the existing Wildlife and conserving current species, while at the same time creating some missing niches
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Post by Hardcastle on Oct 7, 2023 15:50:12 GMT
sMine (Australia): Currently residing: Large Predators: Saltwater crocodile Verdict: Insufficient Medium Predators: Dingo Pythons (Olive, Scrub, Carpet) Verdict: Insufficient Small Predators: Red Fox Feral cat Quolls (eastern, Northern, Western, Spotted tailed) Tasmanian Devil Many monitor lizards and snakes Verdict: Reasonable, but more snake killers would be welcomed. Cervids: Red Deer Fallow Deer Rusa Deer Sambar Deer Axis Deer Hog deer Verdict: Adequate Large Herbivore: Asiatic Buffalo Scrub Cattle Banteng Dromedary Camel Brumby Verdict: Adequate, but the more the merrier. Medium Herbivore: Feral pig Feral Goat Numerous macropods (eastern Grey, Red, wallaroos, tree kangaroos, countless wallabies) Wombat Verdict: Adequate, but the more the merrier. Small herbivore: European Rabbit European Brown Hare Bandicoots (numerous) Numbats Possums and gliders (numerous) Cuscus Rakali potaroo Echidna Marsupial Mole Various rodents and other small marsupials Verdict: Adequate Birds of Prey: Wedge tailed eagle White bellied Sea Eagle Little eagle Black breasted Buzzard Swamp Harrier Spotted Harrier Collared Sparrowhawk Brown goshawk Grey Goshawk Red Goshawk Whistling kite Black Kite Brahminy Kite Black shouldered kite Letterwing Kite Square tailed kite Nankeen Kestrel Peregrine Falcon Black Falcon Brown Falcon Grey Falcon Hobby Falcon Osprey Pacific Baza Powerful Own Barking Owl Masked Owl Tawny Frogmouth Verdict: Actually pretty good. Can't justify need for additions. Support reintroduction: Small Predators: Yellow Mongoose (snakes need to be reigned in, way too comfortable and too abundant) Medium Predators: leopard or puma (stage seems set for them) Cheetah (if addition of blackbuck was successful, see below) Sloth bear (potentially? lots of ants and termites) Large predator: Sumatran tiger or jaguar? (Reluctant on this one, would probably prefer not to, but the north could support them) Large Herbivore: White Rhinocerus (potential sanctuary for endangered species) Pygmy Hippo (one was mysteriously discovered in northern territory and sadly shot due to mistaken identity - could potentially flourish in tropical waters of the north). Alternative to Pygmy Hippo - possibly a tapir? Malayan may be most logical, though my favourite is the mohawked Brazilian Tapir. Medium Herbivore: Black Buck Antelope (have been attempted in the past and existed here briefly before being eradicated, should be given another chance IMO, nice conditions for them) Oryx (Arabian or East African or Scimitar or Gemsbok... because why not, plenty of desert for them) These additions would be welcomed IMO. But also I would like to support and nurture the current invasive inhabitants rather than trying to eradicate them. Just allowing the current invasives to flourish would go a long way in helping to rebuild the trophic levels back to the healthy state they were in 60 000 years ago. Trying to preserve the broken system as it was in the 1600s is a mistake.
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Post by s on Oct 11, 2023 12:02:10 GMT
s Mine (Australia): Currently residing: Large Predators: Saltwater crocodile Verdict: Insufficient Medium Predators: Dingo Pythons (Olive, Scrub, Carpet) Verdict: Insufficient Small Predators: Red Fox Feral cat Quolls (eastern, Northern, Western, Spotted tailed) Tasmanian Devil Many monitor lizards and snakes Verdict: Reasonable, but more snake killers would be welcomed. Cervids: Red Deer Fallow Deer Rusa Deer Sambar Deer Axis Deer Hog deer Verdict: Adequate Large Herbivore: Asiatic Buffalo Scrub Cattle Banteng Dromedary Camel Brumby Verdict: Adequate, but the more the merrier. Medium Herbivore: Feral pig Feral Goat Numerous macropods (eastern Grey, Red, wallaroos, tree kangaroos, countless wallabies) Wombat Verdict: Adequate, but the more the merrier. Small herbivore: European Rabbit European Brown Hare Bandicoots (numerous) Numbats Possums and gliders (numerous) Cuscus Rakali potaroo Echidna Marsupial Mole Various rodents and other small marsupials Verdict: Adequate Birds of Prey: Wedge tailed eagle White bellied Sea Eagle Little eagle Black breasted Buzzard Swamp Harrier Spotted Harrier Collared Sparrowhawk Brown goshawk Grey Goshawk Red Goshawk Whistling kite Black Kite Brahminy Kite Black shouldered kite Letterwing Kite Square tailed kite Nankeen Kestrel Peregrine Falcon Black Falcon Brown Falcon Grey Falcon Hobby Falcon Osprey Pacific Baza Powerful Own Barking Owl Masked Owl Tawny Frogmouth Verdict: Actually pretty good. Can't justify need for additions. Support reintroduction: Small Predators: Yellow Mongoose (snakes need to be reigned in, way too comfortable and too abundant) Medium Predators: leopard or puma (stage seems set for them) Cheetah (if addition of blackbuck was successful, see below) Sloth bear (potentially? lots of ants and termites) Large predator: Sumatran tiger or jaguar? (Reluctant on this one, would probably prefer not to, but the north could support them) Large Herbivore: White Rhinocerus (potential sanctuary for endangered species) Pygmy Hippo (one was mysteriously discovered in northern territory and sadly shot due to mistaken identity - could potentially flourish in tropical waters of the north). Alternative to Pygmy Hippo - possibly a tapir? Malayan may be most logical, though my favourite is the mohawked Brazilian Tapir. Medium Herbivore: Black Buck Antelope (have been attempted in the past and existed here briefly before being eradicated, should be given another chance IMO, nice conditions for them) Oryx (Arabian or East African or Scimitar or Gemsbok... because why not, plenty of desert for them) These additions would be welcomed IMO. But also I would like to support and nurture the current invasive inhabitants rather than trying to eradicate them. Just allowing the current invasives to flourish would go a long way in helping to rebuild the trophic levels back to the healthy state they were in 60 000 years ago. Trying to preserve the broken system as it was in the 1600s is a mistake. A few Golden Jackals have crossed here from France. I support introducing them IMO. Helps create a medium predator niche, and a medium-sized canine in between fox and wolf |
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Post by s on Oct 11, 2023 12:11:02 GMT
The most striking thing is that according to one of the news reports, the jackal had recently eaten wild boar, for which I imagine it would do so in the company of other jackals, since even for a pack of wolves, killing a wild boar is a task that requires some effort, which in a smaller animal is surprising.
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Post by Hardcastle on Oct 11, 2023 12:52:31 GMT
"eating wild boar" might be an impressive feat, and might not. The individual variation among wild boars, especially when you are talking piglets up through shoats and gilts and sows and boars is extreme, then even the variation in boars is not insignificant.
When a predator you know can't seriously threaten a real boar is listed as "preying on wild boar", whether it's a jackal or a lynx or a dingo or whatever, just know it didn't. Assume it was some harmless little hog, which btw makes up most of the population of wild suids regardless of whether you are talking about wild boar or feral hogs or whatever. Predators of all kinds, even the big formidable predators, are mostly picking off the lesser hogs, whether young juveniles (majority), or females or even old deteriorating males.
Hearing that a jackal or lynx killed a "boar" with no other info, and then imagining some big prime adult male with a big hump and shoulder shield and big tusks and etc, that's just quite laughably insane. No. That's definitely not what they killed. If it's a Siberian tiger? MAYBE.
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Post by ophio on Oct 11, 2023 16:25:50 GMT
Ocelots
They were in much of southeastern us. There still are some but we could always use more.
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Post by Hafstanni on Oct 14, 2023 17:56:02 GMT
The highlands of Iceland which make up half of the land, are almost completely uninhabited by humans and megafauna. It's high altitude, cold and wet. What makes it harsh is that it often freezes after raining, so any wet animal's coat will freeze. There are introduced reindeer, but they aren't widespread. There were also attempts at introducing muskox in the 1900's, but they all got sick and died. Can anyone here list a few animals they think can survive here?  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2023 20:12:56 GMT
The highlands of Iceland which make up half of the land, are almost completely uninhabited by humans and megafauna. It's high altitude, cold and wet. What makes it harsh is that it often freezes after raining, so any wet animal's coat will freeze. There are introduced reindeer, but they aren't widespread. There were also attempts at introducing muskox in the 1900's, but they all got sick and died. Can anyone here list a few animals they think can survive here? If the european jaguar still existed, it would be a perfect match. |
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Post by bongoeurycerus on Dec 9, 2023 22:06:47 GMT
In the north, in Peneda Gerês National Park, I think Ussuri moose (Alces alces cameloides) would fit in nicely as there are abundant numbers of red deer, roe deer, wild horses, boar (technically omnivore), and chamois (?) and also predators like wolves and also Cantabria brown bears sometimes wander in from Spain. Some summers might be a tad bit to hot but the habitat seems very good for that moose subspecies (because it is the most southerly subspecies and also the smallest, and Portugal isn’t a very big country).
Also in the Greater Côa Valley they are reintroducing wild horses and chamois, and also the first aurochs have been introduced (if you’re wondering, there are projects of breeding back the most genetically and physically similar cattle breeds into a near-wild, Auroch-like animal, which has been introduced throughout Europe. These are known as Taurus or Tauros cattle).
In the south, such as in the Alentejo or Algarve, I think imported North African species such as fennecs and Dorca’s / Cuvier gazelles could do well but the winters can be chilly sometimes so idk. The best is probably the aoudad, them living in the Barbary Mountains means that southern Portugal is perfect, but there are already mouflon, so competition may arise. Important in the Algarve are predators, because there are only Iberian lynx and wolves are virtually extinct, but this summer a lone, huge wolf was seen in a Golf Resort but was killed the next morning. So reintroduction of wolves and introducing maybe leopards may be useful (since there are numerous boar and red deer), but this would probably result in human retaliation.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2023 23:45:08 GMT
United KingdomCurrently residing: Large Predators: None Verdict: very sad Medium Predators: None Verdict: very sad Medium-ish(?) predators: Eurasian Badger Verdict: very sad Small Predators: Red Fox Scottish Wildcat European Otter American Mink Pine Marten European Polecat Stoat Weasel European Adder Barred Grass Snake Smooth Snake Slow Worm Viviparous Lizard Sand Lizard Common Wall Lizard Red-eared Slider Aesculapian Snake Grass Snake Verdict: Okay - I like the numerous amounts of mustelids. Cervids: Red deer Roe deer Fallow deer Sika deer Reeves' muntjac deer Chinese water deer Père David's deer Verdict: Too many, actually. Large Herbivore: European Bison Verdict: Just waiting for bison to become more widespread in the next 100 years or so (lol). Medium Herbivore: Wild Boar Verdict: Need more. Small herbivore: Various rodents and other "rodent-esque" creatures; hedgehogs, moles etc. Hare, rabbits... Verdict: Fine, don't really care ngl. Birds of Prey: Montagu's Harrier Long-eared Owl Rough-legged Buzzard Barn Owl Eurasian Sparrowhawk Common Buzzard Golden Eagle European Honey-buzzard Common Kestrel Hen Harrier Tawny Owl Hobby Little Owl Osprey Merlin White-tailed Eagle Northern Goshawk Red Kite Western Marsh Herrier Peregrine Falcon Short-eared Owl Eagle Owl Verdict: Pretty good. Support reintroduction: Small Predators: None, they aren't needed. Medium Predators: Eurasian Lynx (will deal with deer population) Golden Jackal (fodder) POSSIBLY Eurasian wolf Large predator: East-central Alaskan Black Bear (why not?) Large Herbivore: None - too many deer right now, more bison would be nice, and boar. Medium Herbivore: There are too many, so I don't want any, that's why I want lynx. Conclusion: Too many deer, I want carnivores, and not herbivores. Favourite native animal:European pine marten. It's not even close. I love them.      Honourable mention (runner up): European polecat. 
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Post by bongoeurycerus on Dec 29, 2023 18:52:02 GMT
The highlands of Iceland which make up half of the land, are almost completely uninhabited by humans and megafauna. It's high altitude, cold and wet. What makes it harsh is that it often freezes after raining, so any wet animal's coat will freeze. There are introduced reindeer, but they aren't widespread. There were also attempts at introducing muskox in the 1900's, but they all got sick and died. Can anyone here list a few animals they think can survive here? Few animals could live there, but as you said muskox and reindeer are probably the only ungulates that can inhabit such hostile place. Wolves are probably the only carnivores too. I don’t know about European jaguar because AFAIK they were not adapted for that cold a habitat and the apparent lack of cover for ambushing prey is also why I don’t think any large felid could exist there. |
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Post by Bolushi on Dec 29, 2023 21:52:40 GMT
The highlands of Iceland which make up half of the land, are almost completely uninhabited by humans and megafauna. It's high altitude, cold and wet. What makes it harsh is that it often freezes after raining, so any wet animal's coat will freeze. There are introduced reindeer, but they aren't widespread. There were also attempts at introducing muskox in the 1900's, but they all got sick and died. Can anyone here list a few animals they think can survive here? Few animals could live there, but as you said muskox and reindeer are probably the only ungulates that can inhabit such hostile place. Wolves are probably the only carnivores too. I don’t know about European jaguar because AFAIK they were not adapted for that cold a habitat and the apparent lack of cover for ambushing prey is also why I don’t think any large felid could exist there. The feral dog and dhole might be viable contenders for such habitat. They're perfectly suited to those conditions. |
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Post by Hardcastle on Dec 30, 2023 2:22:25 GMT
Few animals could live there, but as you said muskox and reindeer are probably the only ungulates that can inhabit such hostile place. Wolves are probably the only carnivores too. I don’t know about European jaguar because AFAIK they were not adapted for that cold a habitat and the apparent lack of cover for ambushing prey is also why I don’t think any large felid could exist there. The feral dog and dhole might be viable contenders for such habitat. They're perfectly suited to those conditions. Why the very much tropics adapted dhole? Feral dogs or wolves would survive as long as food populations could be established for them. Musk ox failing is alarming... I wonder why? They seem to exist in even colder places just completely caked in deep snow. Maybe the wetness is the issue? Scottish Highland cattle and Saiga Antelope might be worth a try. But the wetness might trouble the Saiga as well. Highland cattle are well adapted to very close by locations with similar conditions, I'd have a fair amount of confidence in them. |
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Post by Bolushi on Dec 30, 2023 2:46:25 GMT
The feral dog and dhole might be viable contenders for such habitat. They're perfectly suited to those conditions. Why the very much tropics adapted dhole? Feral dogs or wolves would survive as long as food populations could be established for them. Musk ox failing is alarming... I wonder why? They seem to exist in even colder places just completely caked in deep snow. Maybe the wetness is the issue? Scottish Highland cattle and Saiga Antelope might be worth a try. But the wetness might trouble the Saiga as well. Highland cattle are well adapted to very close by locations with similar conditions, I'd have a fair amount of confidence in them. I think dholes do better in the cold than AWDs. They were kicking around in the ice age and in the cold they develop a winter coat.   |
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Post by bongoeurycerus on Dec 30, 2023 22:24:08 GMT
The feral dog and dhole might be viable contenders for such habitat. They're perfectly suited to those conditions. Why the very much tropics adapted dhole? Feral dogs or wolves would survive as long as food populations could be established for them. Musk ox failing is alarming... I wonder why? They seem to exist in even colder places just completely caked in deep snow. Maybe the wetness is the issue? Scottish Highland cattle and Saiga Antelope might be worth a try. But the wetness might trouble the Saiga as well. Highland cattle are well adapted to very close by locations with similar conditions, I'd have a fair amount of confidence in them. Hadn’t thought about the saiga, but yeah their native habitat of the open Central Asian steppe being grassy, dusty and semi-arid probably doesn’t favour them well here. |
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