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Post by Hardcastle on Oct 20, 2023 18:55:47 GMT
Yeah she is confused. She is not Meryl Streep and is not acting, she really does want to mate with that male lion. Possibly young and dumb/prone to mistakes of that nature.
The lion is just thrown off by the body language, it is not the kind of body language that usually motivates aggressive behaviour, so it isn't sure what to do. Can't stress enough how much body language dictates the behaviour of wild animals. It is like when people get attacked by animals, you can practically always trace it back to bad body language on their part. Freaking out and acting like prey to trigger predators, or sneaking up on a herbivore and acting like a predator triggering its aggression. Body language is usually at the root of all animal interactions.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2023 1:51:54 GMT
As people already said him, Leopard is probably the most multirole Feline (with the possible exception of Jaguar, who is better than Leopard on areas with high humidity and high water level, and has better amphibious movement, but i believe it's not nearly as good in Arid lands) Leopards are heavy enough to pack a very decent punch but not too heavy to the point of sacrificing in stealth and agility Leopards have a good adaptation to a lot of climates, hot temperature or middle temperature, humid or arid, inland or coastal And it's now like they badly need that extra power, aside from Lions they are already the 2rd strongest land (didn't include crocodriles because they are amphibious Predators, not land Predators) predator of Africa, with Spotted Hyena a close 3rd. Jaguars are actually extremely good in arid lands, just as good as leopards in my opinion. We have jaguars all the way up to the Sonoran desert and Arizona which can achieve temperatures of 80-97°C on daytime.   |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2023 1:55:35 GMT
Alright I'm curious what you guys are thinking about this: http://instagram.com/p/CyiT2z3Lhnf Two times (in August and this month) a female leopard joins a male lion to mate. You can see she's collared but in the video she isn't. I have no clue what's going on. My first guess is she's obviously trying to mate and perhaps there are simply no male leopards but why didn't the male lion chase or kill her? This... Just doesn't make sense. LOL THIS IS NUTS |
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Post by Shortridge on Oct 22, 2023 19:47:38 GMT
Yeah she is confused. She is not Meryl Streep and is not acting, she really does want to mate with that male lion. Possibly young and dumb/prone to mistakes of that nature. The lion is just thrown off by the body language, it is not the kind of body language that usually motivates aggressive behaviour, so it isn't sure what to do. Can't stress enough how much body language dictates the behaviour of wild animals. It is like when people get attacked by animals, you can practically always trace it back to bad body language on their part. Freaking out and acting like prey to trigger predators, or sneaking up on a herbivore and acting like a predator triggering its aggression. Body language is usually at the root of all animal interactions. Got more info from someone who knows more about the population:  It's very likely a young female in heat for the first time and the absence of male leopards is the result of this extraordinary event. I guess this shows how animals go to the extreme to ensure the survival of their species. Not that it's their goal but it's in their nature. Mothers go beyond their limits like fear e.g. female leopards with cub(s) dare to confront a lion(ess) head-on which even the most badass male leopard wouldn't dare to do. It's not much different from a parent who would do everything for its child. It's a behaviour that is among animals including the evolved human. |
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Post by Bolushi on Oct 22, 2023 20:01:28 GMT
Yeah she is confused. She is not Meryl Streep and is not acting, she really does want to mate with that male lion. Possibly young and dumb/prone to mistakes of that nature. The lion is just thrown off by the body language, it is not the kind of body language that usually motivates aggressive behaviour, so it isn't sure what to do. Can't stress enough how much body language dictates the behaviour of wild animals. It is like when people get attacked by animals, you can practically always trace it back to bad body language on their part. Freaking out and acting like prey to trigger predators, or sneaking up on a herbivore and acting like a predator triggering its aggression. Body language is usually at the root of all animal interactions. Got more info from someone who knows more about the population: It's very likely a young female in heat for the first time and the absence of male leopards is the result of this extraordinary event. I guess this shows how animals go to the extreme to ensure the survival of their species. Not that it's their goal but it's in their nature. Mothers go beyond their limits like fear e.g. female leopards with cub(s) dare to confront a lion(ess) head-on which even the most badass male leopard wouldn't dare to do. It's not much different from a parent who would do everything for its child. It's a behaviour that is among animals including the evolved human. Some leopardesses are really horrible mothers though - Their innate cowardice just gets the better of them in that moment. |
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Post by Shortridge on Oct 22, 2023 20:47:25 GMT
Got more info from someone who knows more about the population: It's very likely a young female in heat for the first time and the absence of male leopards is the result of this extraordinary event. I guess this shows how animals go to the extreme to ensure the survival of their species. Not that it's their goal but it's in their nature. Mothers go beyond their limits like fear e.g. female leopards with cub(s) dare to confront a lion(ess) head-on which even the most badass male leopard wouldn't dare to do. It's not much different from a parent who would do everything for its child. It's a behaviour that is among animals including the evolved human. Some leopardesses are really horrible mothers though - Their innate cowardice just gets the better of them in that moment. She had more than one cub. She could've tried to fight or chase off the hyena but that would put the other cub(s) in danger if she end up injured or dead. There's a video of a mother black bear running along with a cub after a grizzly bear entered their den, killing at least one cub in the process. Is she a coward too? No, she decided it wasn't worth fighting the bigger grizzly bear and sacrificed at least one cub to ensure another may reach it to adulthood. |
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Post by Hardcastle on Dec 7, 2023 18:57:56 GMT
South African hunter describing leopards and specifically comparing them to mountain lions (have linked to right time stamp)-
Despite the title of the thread it's just generally about this idea the leopard is "special", and this is another testimony along those lines.
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Post by CoolJohnson on Dec 7, 2023 21:06:09 GMT
As people already said him, Leopard is probably the most multirole Feline (with the possible exception of Jaguar, who is better than Leopard on areas with high humidity and high water level, and has better amphibious movement, but i believe it's not nearly as good in Arid lands) Leopards are heavy enough to pack a very decent punch but not too heavy to the point of sacrificing in stealth and agility Leopards have a good adaptation to a lot of climates, hot temperature or middle temperature, humid or arid, inland or coastal And it's now like they badly need that extra power, aside from Lions they are already the 2rd strongest land (didn't include crocodriles because they are amphibious Predators, not land Predators) predator of Africa, with Spotted Hyena a close 3rd. Jaguars are actually extremely good in arid lands, just as good as leopards in my opinion. We have jaguars all the way up to the Sonoran desert and Arizona which can achieve temperatures of 80-97°C on daytime. Can jaguars live in snow areas of slopes like leopards? |
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