Different types of “Curs”

[Hardcastle]

Jul 14, 2023 22:16:30 GMT Wyatt said:

Well i’ve been looking hard into Curs now for some reason, generally hard dogs who will lug a lot, particularly something that doesn’t put them in danger.

Lets start with the main two Curs, always heard about: that is the Black Mouth Cur and the Catahoula. 

The Black Mouth Cur is the largest, known for having a stubborn, pushy and aggressive temperament (towards hogs). On top of that many Black Mouth Curs will lug small hogs, may sometimes do big hogs but that depends. Although they do this they are smart enough to not be gored. 
Used for deer, hogs, coons, bobcats, and squirrels. Some may use them for big cats on occasion.

Catahoulas are way smaller, and are less consistent in lines than BMC. The true Catahoula, the one that was supposed to be bred into consistency usually will lug small hogs.
Used for deer, hogs, and coons as far as im aware.

Now to some of the less known Curs.

The Blue Lacy is a dog used by the large majority by Texans, which is a hunting dog with a hardy temperament towards most things that move. Very gritty but its hard to find a good one. Very versatile, which has led the breed to success in Texas.
Used for deer, hogs, coons, and squirrels.

Now we get to the Mountain Cur. A dog that varies dramatically in height, some being medium-sized and some being large. This is a originally and still is mongrel breed which is known for its versatility and grit. Due to this, many different lines with different looks have been made.
Used on deer, hogs, coons, bobcats, squirrels, and some may actually use their dogs to tree big cats.

An offset of the Mountain Cur is the Kemmer Stock Mountain Cur, which is basically like a mini Black Mouth Cur. This offset is very small compared to other lines, and is actually a breed recongized by fanciers. They show many traits of Black Mouth Curs, like lugging hogs when needed and standing back and baying when needed. I’ve actually heard of a man talking about his Kemmer Stock Mountain Cur fighting bobcats on Tiktok, on a podcast called Tree Talkin Time.

Used on deer, hogs, coons, bobcats, and squirrels. Only 1 owner I know of has used a Kemmer in assistance to mountain lions.

Hardcastle Bolushi

Hmmm...
My understanding is Catahoulas are larger than BMCs and are indeed the biggest cur, often weighing over 100 lbs and being a few inches taller than BMCs.

Some sources seem to say BMCs can be "up to 100 lbs", but most I have seen are way smaller. Even more like 50-60 lbs.

That said I just looked around trying to find a video or pic with both together, and found this where the BMC looks similar or slightly bigger-


These are more like the BMCs I am used to seeing around the internet-

[Wyatt]

Jul 14, 2023 22:52:54 GMT Hardcastle said:

Jul 14, 2023 22:16:30 GMT Wyatt said:

Well i’ve been looking hard into Curs now for some reason, generally hard dogs who will lug a lot, particularly something that doesn’t put them in danger.

Lets start with the main two Curs, always heard about: that is the Black Mouth Cur and the Catahoula. 

The Black Mouth Cur is the largest, known for having a stubborn, pushy and aggressive temperament (towards hogs). On top of that many Black Mouth Curs will lug small hogs, may sometimes do big hogs but that depends. Although they do this they are smart enough to not be gored. 
Used for deer, hogs, coons, bobcats, and squirrels. Some may use them for big cats on occasion.

Catahoulas are way smaller, and are less consistent in lines than BMC. The true Catahoula, the one that was supposed to be bred into consistency usually will lug small hogs.
Used for deer, hogs, and coons as far as im aware.

Now to some of the less known Curs.

The Blue Lacy is a dog used by the large majority by Texans, which is a hunting dog with a hardy temperament towards most things that move. Very gritty but its hard to find a good one. Very versatile, which has led the breed to success in Texas.
Used for deer, hogs, coons, and squirrels.

Now we get to the Mountain Cur. A dog that varies dramatically in height, some being medium-sized and some being large. This is a originally and still is mongrel breed which is known for its versatility and grit. Due to this, many different lines with different looks have been made.
Used on deer, hogs, coons, bobcats, squirrels, and some may actually use their dogs to tree big cats.

An offset of the Mountain Cur is the Kemmer Stock Mountain Cur, which is basically like a mini Black Mouth Cur. This offset is very small compared to other lines, and is actually a breed recongized by fanciers. They show many traits of Black Mouth Curs, like lugging hogs when needed and standing back and baying when needed. I’ve actually heard of a man talking about his Kemmer Stock Mountain Cur fighting bobcats on Tiktok, on a podcast called Tree Talkin Time.

Used on deer, hogs, coons, bobcats, and squirrels. Only 1 owner I know of has used a Kemmer in assistance to mountain lions.

Hardcastle Bolushi

Hmmm...
My understanding is Catahoulas are larger than BMCs and are indeed the biggest cur, often weighing over 100 lbs and being a few inches taller than BMCs.

Some sources seem to say BMCs can be "up to 100 lbs", but most I have seen are way smaller. Even more like 50-60 lbs.

That said I just looked around trying to find a video or pic with both together, and found this where the BMC looks similar or slightly bigger-


These are more like the BMCs I am used to seeing around the internet-

At their biggest they are probably about the same weight range.

[Bolushi]

Jul 14, 2023 22:16:30 GMT Wyatt said:

Well i’ve been looking hard into Curs now for some reason, generally hard dogs who will lug a lot, particularly something that doesn’t put them in danger.

Lets start with the main two Curs, always heard about: that is the Black Mouth Cur and the Catahoula. 

The Black Mouth Cur is the largest, known for having a stubborn, pushy and aggressive temperament (towards hogs). On top of that many Black Mouth Curs will lug small hogs, may sometimes do big hogs but that depends. Although they do this they are smart enough to not be gored. 
Used for deer, hogs, coons, bobcats, and squirrels. Some may use them for big cats on occasion.

Catahoulas are way smaller, and are less consistent in lines than BMC. The true Catahoula, the one that was supposed to be bred into consistency usually will lug small hogs.
Used for deer, hogs, and coons as far as im aware.

Now to some of the less known Curs.

The Blue Lacy is a dog used by the large majority by Texans, which is a hunting dog with a hardy temperament towards most things that move. Very gritty but its hard to find a good one. Very versatile, which has led the breed to success in Texas.
Used for deer, hogs, coons, and squirrels.

Now we get to the Mountain Cur. A dog that varies dramatically in height, some being medium-sized and some being large. This is a originally and still is mongrel breed which is known for its versatility and grit. Due to this, many different lines with different looks have been made.
Used on deer, hogs, coons, bobcats, squirrels, and some may actually use their dogs to tree big cats.

An offset of the Mountain Cur is the Kemmer Stock Mountain Cur, which is basically like a mini Black Mouth Cur. This offset is very small compared to other lines, and is actually a breed recongized by fanciers. They show many traits of Black Mouth Curs, like lugging hogs when needed and standing back and baying when needed. I’ve actually heard of a man talking about his Kemmer Stock Mountain Cur fighting bobcats on Tiktok, on a podcast called Tree Talkin Time.

Used on deer, hogs, coons, bobcats, and squirrels. Only 1 owner I know of has used a Kemmer in assistance to mountain lions.

Hardcastle Bolushi

Can you send the stuff with the guy talking about BMCs on bobcats? I know they've killed them, not uncommonly talked about on forums.

[Hardcastle]

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