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Post by Bolushi on Jul 14, 2023 5:44:50 GMT
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Post by Bolushi on Jul 14, 2023 5:46:55 GMT
I think the Airedale Lurcher is one of the best dogs to deal with a spotted hyena, so I'd favor it over most spotted hyenas. Airedale Terrier adds the damaging jaws and the sighthound adds height and weight. Not doing damage isn't quite as big of an issue here.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2023 9:52:47 GMT
I agree with Menvidas in that no dog breed has the damage output needed, nor the durability needed, to kill a Spotted Hyena.
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Post by Bolushi on Jul 14, 2023 16:51:00 GMT
I agree with Menvidas in that no dog breed has the damage output needed, nor the durability needed, to kill a Spotted Hyena. Some dog guys think if you wanted to craft a dog to kill a spotted hyena, you start with Airedale. Since the damage they can do is... a lot. Whether sighthound is the correct option afterwards I'm not sure, also not sure how much that would hurt damage output. It does help that IIRC we have a case of an Airedale killing a hyena.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2023 16:56:11 GMT
I agree with Menvidas in that no dog breed has the damage output needed, nor the durability needed, to kill a Spotted Hyena. Since the damage they can do is... a lot. A lot? Maybe. Enough? No. Hyenas can survive attacks by Lions. They are EXTREMELY durable. And not to mention, extremely powerful too. One bite could be all it takes to end the fight. |
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Post by Bolushi on Jul 14, 2023 21:42:45 GMT
Since the damage they can do is... a lot. A lot? Maybe. Enough? No. Hyenas can survive attacks by Lions. They are EXTREMELY durable. And not to mention, extremely powerful too. One bite could be all it takes to end the fight. We know they're extremely durable, but we also know it takes them 8 maulings to kill a jackal. There is no one bite fight ender here. Surviving lion attacks isn't the same. Blunt force trauma to the spine is a different kind of damage. A lion is not attacking with extreme urgency and precision, dog is. Inferior dogs to the Airedale Lurcher have survived grizzly bear attacks. The dog could disembowel the hyena, or maul it to death... one of those 2. A long time for hyena to die, but I think it does sometimes. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2023 21:47:00 GMT
A lot? Maybe. Enough? No. Hyenas can survive attacks by Lions. They are EXTREMELY durable. And not to mention, extremely powerful too. One bite could be all it takes to end the fight. We know they're extremely durable, but we also know it takes them 8 maulings to kill a jackal. There is no one bite fight ender here. Surviving lion attacks isn't the same. Blunt force trauma to the spine is a different kind of damage. A lion is not attacking with extreme urgency and precision, dog is. Inferior dogs to the Airedale Lurcher have survived grizzly bear attacks. The dog could disembowel the hyena, or maul it to death... one of those 2. A long time for hyena to die, but I think it does sometimes. They've survived more than just blunt charges and etc from lions... Like I said, I don't think any dog beats a Spotted hyena. In fact, dogs probably stop around this weight class tbh (60-70kg ish, maybe a bit less, maybe a bit more). I think anything above that realm is a loss (I'm referring to predators and predators only). But I'd like to hear what Hardcastle thinks of this match-up. |
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Post by Hardcastle on Jul 14, 2023 21:56:47 GMT
I agree with Menvidas in that no dog breed has the damage output needed, nor the durability needed, to kill a Spotted Hyena. Some dog guys think if you wanted to craft a dog to kill a spotted hyena, you start with Airedale. Since the damage they can do is... a lot. Whether sighthound is the correct option afterwards I'm not sure, also not sure how much that would hurt damage output. It does help that IIRC we have a case of an Airedale killing a hyena. "Delayed its flight so that it was killed" probably means "lugged" more than "killed". The airedale beat it up and stopped it from escaping, but I think "It was killed" by a dude/dudes. That's how I would read that. But it did beat up the hyena and the hyena couldn't do anything about it, which is something I think a lot of people don't appreciate with dog vs hyena in general. Hyenas have a very hard time "landing fang" on dogs, being so incredibly out-paced in footwork and agility. They typically don't even try and just kind of hunker down their butt and open their mouth threateningly and basically just "weather the storm". Which, to be fair, they are very good at doing. Makes for an awkward match up to discuss, because there basically is no outcome. A lot of people assume the hyena just easily chomps the dog, but it's not reality and it more so just kind of gets beaten up indefinitely. The spotted hyena in particular I think won't be killed. Brown or striped I think could potentially be eventually killed by an Airedale lurcher which is an unusually lethal killer for a dog. But spotted is too much. Even though I think no result is the most likely outcome, IF there was to be an outcome it would most likely be the spotted hyena eventually getting a hold of the dog during the melee and killing it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2023 17:43:10 GMT
What distinguishes an Airedale Lurcher from an Airedale Terrier?
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Post by Bolushi on Jul 20, 2023 17:49:43 GMT
What distinguishes an Airedale Lurcher from an Airedale Terrier? Bigger, faster, but a little diminished in other senses. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2023 17:51:27 GMT
What distinguishes an Airedale Lurcher from an Airedale Terrier? Bigger, faster, but a little diminished in other senses. But it’s the same breed genetically? The one in the OP looks less shaggy than the Schnauzer-like Airedale Terriers I’ve seen in the past. |
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Post by Bolushi on Jul 20, 2023 19:37:14 GMT
Bigger, faster, but a little diminished in other senses. But it’s the same breed genetically? The one in the OP looks less shaggy than the Schnauzer-like Airedale Terriers I’ve seen in the past. No, an Airedale Lurcher is Airedale x Sighthound. |
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