Anything I need to know elsewhere about Kelpies?

[Wyatt]

I may be getting a Kelpie in a long while, as thats the dog that seems to be right for me. I’ve dug deep in the depths of research, but anything I may need to know about the general breed i’d love to have. 

Hardcastle Bolushi Musth @ling

[Hardcastle]

One thing that springs to mind is it will spend it's first year destroying everything you have. Stripping sofas down to the frame, chewing the legs off tables and chairs, gnawing the walls off its own dog house. They are extremely destructive when they are young, which seems to be a smart dog thing, and the more energy/stamina they have the more relentless it is. The Kelpie would be one of the worst for this.

They are pretty similar to collies and Aussie shepherds etc generally. They do a lot of "staring" and "stalking" for fun.

[Wyatt]

Jun 18, 2023 2:53:15 GMT Hardcastle said:

One thing that springs to mind is it will spend it's first year destroying everything you have. Stripping sofas down to the frame, chewing the legs off tables and chairs, gnawing the walls off its own dog house. They are extremely destructive when they are young, which seems to be a smart dog thing, and the more energy/stamina they have the more relentless it is. The Kelpie would be one of the worst for this.

They are pretty similar to collies and Aussie shepherds etc generally. They do a lot of "staring" and "stalking" for fun.

Would you need to kennel them? Im gone out of the house sometimes but when I come back I can basically allow whatever. And im active all day. I just mean when you’re not watching them or you’re busy.

Obviously when im at college I can’t supervise them but I actually have the luxury of someone to supervise them, I have a parent.

[Hardcastle]

Jun 18, 2023 3:09:47 GMT Wyatt said:

Jun 18, 2023 2:53:15 GMT Hardcastle said:

One thing that springs to mind is it will spend it's first year destroying everything you have. Stripping sofas down to the frame, chewing the legs off tables and chairs, gnawing the walls off its own dog house. They are extremely destructive when they are young, which seems to be a smart dog thing, and the more energy/stamina they have the more relentless it is. The Kelpie would be one of the worst for this.

They are pretty similar to collies and Aussie shepherds etc generally. They do a lot of "staring" and "stalking" for fun.

Would you need to kennel them? Im gone out of the house sometimes but when I come back I can basically allow whatever. And im active all day. I just mean when you’re not watching them or you’re busy.

Obviously when im at college I can’t supervise them but I actually have the luxury of someone to supervise them, I have a parent.

Yeah just do your best to provide as much exercise as possible, as many toys as possible, limited access to important stuff. Be on top of them and consistent with correcting the destruction of inappropriate stuff. It's fine, but just something to remember with a young kelpie. Get bored easily, lots of energy, wreck stuff.

[Wyatt]

Jun 18, 2023 3:33:42 GMT Hardcastle said:

Jun 18, 2023 3:09:47 GMT Wyatt said:

Would you need to kennel them? Im gone out of the house sometimes but when I come back I can basically allow whatever. And im active all day. I just mean when you’re not watching them or you’re busy.

Obviously when im at college I can’t supervise them but I actually have the luxury of someone to supervise them, I have a parent.

Yeah just do your best to provide as much exercise as possible, as many toys as possible, limited access to important stuff. Be on top of them and consistent with correcting the destruction of inappropriate stuff. It's fine, but just something to remember with a young kelpie. Get bored easily, lots of energy, wreck stuff.

Yeah im not worried about how much stimulatilon im gonna give the dog because I am active myself for the entire day. You see me tired only at night. But through the day I can do everything like that. The issue just comes whether kennel training will be fine for a Kelpie. All my dogs are kenneled, even Ross who is very high-strung.

So its not unusual. I figured for a dog like a Kelpie kennel training would be very weird based off my research. Surprisingly though from what i’ve read a Heelers are actually way worse with kennel training.

[Hardcastle]

Yeah dogs like that respond better to being your "right hand man", rather than locked away somewhere. If you have other dogs that is good. That will alleviate a lot of their boredom if they have dogs to annoy and play with.

[Wyatt]

Jun 18, 2023 3:42:56 GMT Hardcastle said:

Yeah dogs like that respond better to being your "right hand man", rather than locked away somewhere. If you have other dogs that is good. That will alleviate a lot of their boredom if they have dogs to annoy and play with.

Surprisingly our kennel is usually near the living room.

Many times you hear of people having kennels in their rooms or whatever, mine is straight dab in the living room. Also, its a pretty damn big spacey kennel. I don’t have it right now but when my uncle gets done borrowing it I will use it.

Oh btw its not now im getting the dog, def not. But its in the next 2 years or so. 

[Bolushi]

Jun 18, 2023 2:04:15 GMT Wyatt said:

I may be getting a Kelpie in a long while, as thats the dog that seems to be right for me. I’ve dug deep in the depths of research, but anything I may need to know about the general breed i’d love to have. 

Hardcastle Bolushi Musth @ling

I think you're jumping in the deep end but you learn as you go.
Just... don't let the dog eat check registers, coins, and gnaw on WII controllers, and keep it occupied with toys or another dog. Good to go. Kelpie can teach you the rest. 

[Wyatt]

Jun 18, 2023 4:01:59 GMT Bolushi said:

Jun 18, 2023 2:04:15 GMT Wyatt said:

I may be getting a Kelpie in a long while, as thats the dog that seems to be right for me. I’ve dug deep in the depths of research, but anything I may need to know about the general breed i’d love to have. 

Hardcastle Bolushi Musth @ling

I think you're jumping in the deep end but you learn as you go.
Just... don't let the dog eat check registers, coins, and gnaw on WII controllers, and keep it occupied with toys or another dog. Good to go. Kelpie can teach you the rest. 

Maybe so. But its either that or get something that won’t match my activity levels nor what I need in a dog.

I definitely won’t let the dog eat my cash, thats something you don’t fuck with.

[Hardcastle]

By "kennel" you must mean like a cage or "crate" you have inside? That isn't how we use that word.
Kennel usually means some kind of "compound" to house multiple dogs like this-



But occasionally some people might use it just to describe a normal dog house like this-



Those dog "crates" people have inside I never really understood what they were, think it's an american thing mostly.

[Wyatt]

Jun 18, 2023 4:35:04 GMT Hardcastle said:

By "kennel" you must mean like a cage or "crate" you have inside? That isn't how we use that word.
Kennel usually means some kind of "compound" to house multiple dogs like this-



But occasionally some people might use it just to describe a normal dog house like this-



Those dog "crates" people have inside I never really understood what they were, think it's an american thing mostly.

Thats the size of it but you’re thinking one of those kennels primarily guys who own hunting dogs (scent or sight hounds) use.

Always outside and big enough to keep the dog inside.

We keep crates inside here. Both inside and sometimes outside. Dual purpose basically.

[Hardcastle]

Jun 18, 2023 5:26:03 GMT Wyatt said:

Jun 18, 2023 4:35:04 GMT Hardcastle said:

By "kennel" you must mean like a cage or "crate" you have inside? That isn't how we use that word.
Kennel usually means some kind of "compound" to house multiple dogs like this-



But occasionally some people might use it just to describe a normal dog house like this-



Those dog "crates" people have inside I never really understood what they were, think it's an american thing mostly.

Thats the size of it but you’re thinking one of those kennels primarily guys who own hunting dogs (scent or sight hounds) use.

Always outside and big enough to keep the dog inside.

We keep crates inside here. Both inside and sometimes outside. Dual purpose basically.

The only purpose I would understand for them I guess is to stop your inside dog from eating the couch while you are at work. That kinda does make sense, but otherwise I wouldn't be using them after you get that sorted it out. Seems weird to me. Like treating a dog like a hamster.

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I have a Kelpie (well technically my uncle does). She's cool. Had her since she was like, what, maybe a week old? She's pretty chill, she can get bored quickly if she isn't outside. We got her and and a Collie on the same day. They hated each other. From birth until the death of that Collie, which, in fairness, wasn't very long. Maybe they would've grown each other? I'm not sure. I doubt it. I had three dogs at that time; Kelpie, two Collies. Gayle - the Kelpie, was often the one to initiate the conflicts. She just hates other dogs. Literally hates them. One time I was sitting in a car with her, waiting for my uncle (he was talking to a friend), and a tan Labrador walked up towards the car. It was hell, to say the least. Also, my uncle also once tried to get her to breed with another Kelpie - yeah that went like shit too. I don't know if all Kelpies are like that, maybe its just mine. I'm not sure. But other than her strong-hatred for other dogs she's great. Fast, athletic, kind to people, likes to be pet etc. etc.

[Hardcastle]

I wouldn't say that's a thing with Kelpies, necessarily. My uncle has a kelpie on a farm where we (all the extended family) are specifically not allowed to bring our dogs because it is dog aggressive, BUT again I think that's just an individual dog thing.
If you said blue heeler, then yeah. They really are a-holes.

[Wyatt]

Jun 18, 2023 12:27:16 GMT Hardcastle said:

I wouldn't say that's a thing with Kelpies, necessarily. My uncle has a kelpie on a farm where we (all the extended family) are specifically not allowed to bring our dogs because it is dog aggressive, BUT again I think that's just an individual dog thing.
If you said blue heeler, then yeah. They really are a-holes.

I mean many herders are prone to dog aggression but Kelpies are not the top of the list even.

We have Continental Herders and Heelers which top the list of dog aggression usually.