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Post by ophio on May 26, 2023 5:59:11 GMT
Islam makhacehev is fighting at 180 pounds
Wolf is at 148 pounds
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Post by Musth on May 26, 2023 8:19:44 GMT
Islam chokes the wolf out. Honestly a dog that has some live bites and training in bite work would be much better than a wolf imo. Like a cao who has trained in bite/security work and possibly had some real altercations with a man, is probably the best dog to fight a man. Or of course a big gripping dog etc. And just because it is a fighting cas or kangal or whatever doesn’t mean it would do good against a man. Honestly quite the contrary. A lot of fighting dogs are human friendly, don’t have natural human aggression, vs more of a line or breed of a dog that has actually been bred for that work.
With that said the dog is more suited and would do better and have better chances but even then Islam most likely wins imo. Even if the dog is of equal size.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2023 8:21:20 GMT
No dog would beat a world-class fighter. Simple.
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Post by ophio on May 26, 2023 14:56:19 GMT
Islam chokes the wolf out. Honestly a dog that has some live bites and training in bite work would be much better than a wolf imo. Like a cao who has trained in bite/security work and possibly had some real altercations with a man, is probably the best dog to fight a man. Or of course a big gripping dog etc. And just because it is a fighting cas or kangal or whatever doesn’t mean it would do good against a man. Honestly quite the contrary. A lot of fighting dogs are human friendly, don’t have natural human aggression, vs more of a line or breed of a dog that has actually been bred for that work. With that said the dog is more suited and would do better and have better chances but even then Islam most likely wins imo. Even if the dog is of equal size. I mean how is islam gonna take the wolf down. The wolf has shorter legs than a human so a double/single leg is different and the wolf has more legs so it's harder to get the takedown. Judo throws similarly won't work because the wolf has 4 legs so tripping one leg might not be enough. I guess slams work but good luck getting both hands clasped around the wolf without getting bitten. Ditto for body triangles and human backpacks. It'd be hard to initiate contact without getting bitten but yea if a bjj or mma fighter could initiate contact and get it down, it probably wins I chose the wolf because it's easier to take down than a dog due to higher center of gravity. |
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Post by Hardcastle on May 26, 2023 15:10:48 GMT
Islam chokes the wolf out. Honestly a dog that has some live bites and training in bite work would be much better than a wolf imo. Like a cao who has trained in bite/security work and possibly had some real altercations with a man, is probably the best dog to fight a man. Or of course a big gripping dog etc. And just because it is a fighting cas or kangal or whatever doesn’t mean it would do good against a man. Honestly quite the contrary. A lot of fighting dogs are human friendly, don’t have natural human aggression, vs more of a line or breed of a dog that has actually been bred for that work. With that said the dog is more suited and would do better and have better chances but even then Islam most likely wins imo. Even if the dog is of equal size. I mean how is islam gonna take the wolf down. The wolf has shorter legs than a human so a double/single leg is different and the wolf has more legs so it's harder to get the takedown. Judo throws similarly won't work because the wolf has 4 legs so tripping one leg might not be enough. I guess slams work but good luck getting both hands clasped around the wolf without getting bitten. Ditto for body triangles and human backpacks. It'd be hard to initiate contact without getting bitten but yea if a bjj or mma fighter could initiate contact and get it down, it probably wins I chose the wolf because it's easier to take down than a dog due to higher center of gravity. Just grab it by the fur/skin on the side of the neck, just behind the cheek, and then there's nothing it can do. You just have full control over it and can do what you will at leisure. Humans are a bogey opponent for canids, unfortunately. |
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Post by Musth on May 26, 2023 17:13:32 GMT
I mean how is islam gonna take the wolf down. The wolf has shorter legs than a human so a double/single leg is different and the wolf has more legs so it's harder to get the takedown. Judo throws similarly won't work because the wolf has 4 legs so tripping one leg might not be enough. I guess slams work but good luck getting both hands clasped around the wolf without getting bitten. Ditto for body triangles and human backpacks. It'd be hard to initiate contact without getting bitten but yea if a bjj or mma fighter could initiate contact and get it down, it probably wins I chose the wolf because it's easier to take down than a dog due to higher center of gravity. Just grab it by the fur/skin on the side of the neck, just behind the cheek, and then there's nothing it can do. You just have full control over it and can do what you will at leisure. Humans are a bogey opponent for canids, unfortunately. Just put it in a standing guillotine…. Or possibly rear naked choke. He doesn’t even need to “take the dog down”. And believe me I would like the dog to win, but I don’t see it happening. |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2023 17:58:26 GMT
I mean how is islam gonna take the wolf down. The wolf has shorter legs than a human so a double/single leg is different and the wolf has more legs so it's harder to get the takedown. Judo throws similarly won't work because the wolf has 4 legs so tripping one leg might not be enough. I guess slams work but good luck getting both hands clasped around the wolf without getting bitten. Ditto for body triangles and human backpacks. It'd be hard to initiate contact without getting bitten but yea if a bjj or mma fighter could initiate contact and get it down, it probably wins I chose the wolf because it's easier to take down than a dog due to higher center of gravity. Just grab it by the fur/skin on the side of the neck, just behind the cheek, and then there's nothing it can do. You just have full control over it and can do what you will at leisure. Humans are a bogey opponent for canids, unfortunately. Unfortunately?  |
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Post by Musth on May 26, 2023 19:30:20 GMT
With that said I do beleive elite dogs for man can kill the average man. That’s just my opinion. The average man is pathetic.
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Post by Hardcastle on May 26, 2023 20:41:06 GMT
Yes, if you don't do the right thing you are screwed. A lot of people will panic and try to hit and kick at the attacking dog, which is pointless. Most people I would say don't know what to do, but if you do it becomes incredibly simple and easy.
2 dogs changes everything on even a very capable man. 2 x 50 lbs pitbulls on a 220 lbs man, he's probably screwed.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2023 20:45:56 GMT
Yes, if you don't do the right thing you are screwed. A lot of people will panic and try to hit and kick at the attacking dog, which is pointless. Most people I would say don't know what to do, but if you do it becomes incredibly simple and easy. 2 dogs changes everything on even a very capable man. 2 x 50 lbs pitbulls on a 220 lbs man, he's probably screwed. No one gives a shit about 2. That's scummy. Sent from my SM-A105FN using Tapatalk |
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Post by Musth on May 26, 2023 21:03:22 GMT
Yes, if you don't do the right thing you are screwed. A lot of people will panic and try to hit and kick at the attacking dog, which is pointless. Most people I would say don't know what to do, but if you do it becomes incredibly simple and easy. 2 dogs changes everything on even a very capable man. 2 x 50 lbs pitbulls on a 220 lbs man, he's probably screwed. Or even worse 2 trained and real Belgain malinois. Or two 100lbs bandogs etc. |
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