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Post by CoolJohnson on May 24, 2023 3:51:26 GMT
Which animals would be the jack of all trades?
I guess the American Black Bear is a good example.
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Post by Bolushi on May 24, 2023 4:02:56 GMT
Gray wolf coyote jackal spitz herders humans
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Post by ophio on May 24, 2023 4:13:49 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2023 14:27:44 GMT
Gray wolf coyote jackal spitz herders humans I wouldn't call the human a jack of all trades imo. Insane intelligence, mediocre power, mediocre health, shitty durability, good stamina and mobility and shitty stealth. Sent from my SM-A105FN using Tapatalk
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Post by Bolushi on May 24, 2023 15:30:18 GMT
Gray wolf coyote jackal spitz herders humans I wouldn't call the human a jack of all trades imo. Insane intelligence, mediocre power, mediocre health, shitty durability, good stamina and mobility and shitty stealth. Sent from my SM-A105FN using Tapatalk Well a jack of all trades generally needs to be decent at living with humans. I think humans are the best at that...
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2023 15:31:19 GMT
I wouldn't call the human a jack of all trades imo. Insane intelligence, mediocre power, mediocre health, shitty durability, good stamina and mobility and shitty stealth. Sent from my SM-A105FN using Tapatalk Well a jack of all trades generally needs to be decent at living with humans. I think humans are the best at that... Why...? Why would an animal needs to be decent at living with humans to be pretty general across the board. Makes no sense. Sent from my SM-A105FN using Tapatalk
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Post by Bolushi on May 24, 2023 15:31:23 GMT
Maybe the leopard is kind of up there? For team cat the leopard in its endless varieties takes the cake definitely. How they stack up with the others... not well but they are ok.
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Post by Bolushi on May 24, 2023 15:32:29 GMT
Well a jack of all trades generally needs to be decent at living with humans. I think humans are the best at that... Why...? Why would an animal needs to be decent at living with humans to be pretty general across the board. Makes no sense. Sent from my SM-A105FN using Tapatalk A jack of all trades can't also be used as target practice and get a 5 star wanted level on sight.
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Post by Hardcastle on May 24, 2023 16:45:26 GMT
Gray wolf coyote jackal spitz herders humans Herders being listed as jack of all trades i’d disagree with because herders have specialization of herding, but wolves also use herding when hunting bison so thats why its so close. Spitz are “jack of all trades” because they don’t have specialization. Well I think it's telling that herders DO retain a "jack of all trades" versatility. Logically you would be right, they are specialised for herding, but it turns out being specialised for herding is closer to the wolf original than being specialised for hunting, and herding dogs are actually changed the least from wolves out of all the specialised variants of dog. It illuminates the fact that wolves are actually more like wild herding dogs than wild hunting dogs. Their "jack of all trades" lifestyle actually all revolves around herding and herd management, so it was a small step for herding dogs to come into existence. The other types of dog are actually making a bigger leap to specialise in their areas of expertise.
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Post by CoolJohnson on May 24, 2023 19:32:35 GMT
Maybe the leopard is kind of up there? For team cat the leopard in its endless varieties takes the cake definitely. How they stack up with the others... not well but they are ok. I guess the leopard is the jack of all trades since they are adaptable towards different environments.
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Post by Hardcastle on May 24, 2023 20:33:53 GMT
All cats are such specialised assassins I wouldn't be compelled to say any are "jacks of all trades", but if I had to pick one it would be the Jaguar due to the fact it regularly kills a diverse range of unusual prey species which it uses different tactics for. Like luring fish to the surface by drooling in the water, cracking turtle shells, diving for caiman... then you have the anteaters, armadillos, deer, peccary, tapir, sloth, monkeys, rhea, iguanas, anaconda, other birds... and sometimes they even get high on caapi vine. They fact they swim a lot, eat lots of weird creatures, can kill really big game but then also dig for turtle eggs and kind of "wade" into some predatory situations rather than ALWAYS use a calculated stealth attack, makes me feel like they are more versatile than most cats. Almost like they are evolving into a problem-solving bear-like creature, ever so slightly, in some ways.
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Post by Bolushi on May 24, 2023 22:05:56 GMT
All cats are such specialised assassins I wouldn't be compelled to say any are "jacks of all trades", but if I had to pick one it would be the Jaguar due to the fact it regularly kills a diverse range of unusual prey species which it uses different tactics for. Like luring fish to the surface by drooling in the water, cracking turtle shells, diving for caiman... then you have the anteaters, armadillos, deer, peccary, tapir, sloth, monkeys, rhea, iguanas, anaconda, other birds... and sometimes they even get high on caapi vine. They fact they swim a lot, eat lots of weird creatures, can kill really big game but then also dig for turtle eggs and kind of "wade" into some predatory situations rather than ALWAYS use a calculated stealth attack, makes me feel like they are more versatile than most cats. Almost like they are evolving into a problem-solving bear-like creature, ever so slightly, in some ways. I think ability to coexist with humans is important here and the jaguar just gets 5 stars on sight... however that probably has more to do with the humans than the animals themselves so I'd be compelled to agree.
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Post by CoolJohnson on May 25, 2023 5:52:07 GMT
All cats are such specialised assassins I wouldn't be compelled to say any are "jacks of all trades", but if I had to pick one it would be the Jaguar due to the fact it regularly kills a diverse range of unusual prey species which it uses different tactics for. Like luring fish to the surface by drooling in the water, cracking turtle shells, diving for caiman... then you have the anteaters, armadillos, deer, peccary, tapir, sloth, monkeys, rhea, iguanas, anaconda, other birds... and sometimes they even get high on caapi vine. They fact they swim a lot, eat lots of weird creatures, can kill really big game but then also dig for turtle eggs and kind of "wade" into some predatory situations rather than ALWAYS use a calculated stealth attack, makes me feel like they are more versatile than most cats. Almost like they are evolving into a problem-solving bear-like creature, ever so slightly, in some ways. Would you say the American Black Bear is the jack of all trades for the bear family?
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Post by Hardcastle on May 25, 2023 6:11:28 GMT
Bears generally lean towards a jack of all trades utilitarian design. Only the polar bear exhibits a certain amount of specialisation, and I guess the giant panda. But yes black bears are almost especially jack-of-all-trades-y.
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