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Post by Bolushi on May 15, 2023 6:54:27 GMT
Assuming everybody is 25 pounds (except the eagle as it's more effective at 20 pounds)
Harpy eagle
Jagdterrier
Basenji
Ocelot
Tasmanian devil
Boa Constrictor
Honey badger
Crocodile Monitor
1. Harpy eagle vs 8. Crocodile monitor
2. Jagdterrier vs 7 honey badger
3. Basenji vs 6. Boa
4. Ocelot vs 5. Tasmanian devil
Don't need a poll for this IMO.
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Post by Bolushi on May 15, 2023 6:58:43 GMT
Where's the Staffbull at? Did it lose earlier? I'm confused. It would totally make it here if it was included. Then again maybe it's a bit cheesy.
Anyways the Jagd, basenji or honey badger beats all of them, do 25lb boas even exist outside of juveniles?
Honey badgers have a limited offense but are very durable. Could outlast everybody and just accumulate clawings and bites. The relentless hell of a Jagd's attack would make me favor the Jagd, and the basenji is up there too so... but it's not as crazy in a fight with a badger so it might just fall short.
The ocelot beats the Taz devil IMO. So the ocelot is also in, and loses.
The croc monitor gets its skull caved in by the eagle and can't really beat anyone else besides maybe the eagle if it's lucky.
I think all of them beat the 20lb boa... but that doesn't even really count. It's just so so so bad a mismatch with all of these besides maybe the devil.
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Post by ophio on May 15, 2023 7:00:15 GMT
1. Monitor is fast and unless eagle can pin the head down it's getting shanked by a monitor that specialises in birds
2. Jagd is tough and has more offence than badger.
3. Basenji can probably keep it's distance from the boa and fight smart to tire boa out.
4. Ocelot by skull bite. Tassy is too slow
Monitor vs ocelot. Ocelot is likely stronger and has a nifty skull bite. Monitor has a good cutting bite though so it might have the stamina advantage especially if it weakens the ocelot by bloodloss. Monitor is hard on the ground making it difficult to take down. Considering ocelots don't take full grown tegus in the wild, i might have to go with the monitor here.
Jagd vs basenji is interesting at parity. Jagd and basenji are both relentless but jagd seems more relentless while the basenji fights more cautiously? Jagd seems to have a bigger head but basenji has longer legs so more speed?. Will prolly go with basenji but damm bolushi and hardcastle gave me conflicting answers.
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Basenji vs croc monitor. Basenji will need the mobility advantage to avoid the teeth and outcardio the monitor. The monitor will likely try to clinch up with the claws while the dog harrasses it, but the dog should be able to avoid that and tire the monitor out in a long battle of attrition
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Post by ophio on May 15, 2023 7:01:23 GMT
Where's the Staffbull at? Did it lose earlier? I'm confused. It would totally make it here if it was included. Then again maybe it's a bit cheesy. Anyways the Jagd, basenji or honey badger beats all of them, do 20lb boas even exist outside of juveniles? Honey badgers have a limited offense but are very durable. Could outlast everybody and just accumulate clawings and bites. The relentless hell of a Jagd's attack would make me favor the Jagd, and the basenji is up there too so... but it's not as crazy in a fight with a badger so it might just fall short. The ocelot beats the Taz devil IMO. So the ocelot is also in, and loses. The croc monitor gets its skull caved in by the eagle and can't really beat anyone else besides maybe the eagle if it's lucky. I think all of them beat the 20lb boa... but that doesn't even really count. It's just so so so bad a mismatch with all of these besides maybe the devil. Staffy get over 30ish pounds no? A bit too big for this division |
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Post by Bolushi on May 15, 2023 7:06:16 GMT
Where's the Staffbull at? Did it lose earlier? I'm confused. It would totally make it here if it was included. Then again maybe it's a bit cheesy. Anyways the Jagd, basenji or honey badger beats all of them, do 20lb boas even exist outside of juveniles? Honey badgers have a limited offense but are very durable. Could outlast everybody and just accumulate clawings and bites. The relentless hell of a Jagd's attack would make me favor the Jagd, and the basenji is up there too so... but it's not as crazy in a fight with a badger so it might just fall short. The ocelot beats the Taz devil IMO. So the ocelot is also in, and loses. The croc monitor gets its skull caved in by the eagle and can't really beat anyone else besides maybe the eagle if it's lucky. I think all of them beat the 20lb boa... but that doesn't even really count. It's just so so so bad a mismatch with all of these besides maybe the devil. Staffy get over 30ish pounds no? A bit too big for this division Evidently they can be 24lbs, for females. They average 35-55lbs but can get small enough to be in this weight range. Now, it might become a little boring if we include it since nothing else will ever win. This is not a good place for a wild predator to be and a superb place for a bulldog to be. Wolverines can also be in this weight class. If the boa has made it here I question why the above haven't. |
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Post by ophio on May 15, 2023 7:10:42 GMT
Staffy get over 30ish pounds no? A bit too big for this division Evidently they can be 24lbs, for females. They average 35-55lbs but can get small enough to be in this weight range. Now, it might become a little boring if we include it since nothing else will ever win. This is not a good place for a wild predator to be and a superb place for a bulldog to be. Wolverines can also be in this weight class. If the boa has made it here I question why the above haven't. Eh needed a snake and 55 lbs would be a monster boa. Boas vary in size quite a lot accross south america and 25 lbs would be a big female in most areas. Out of the wild animals, the ocelot, monitor, and harpy eagle are definetlely the most dangerous as they can all end a fight quick. Ditto for the boa although they'd be a horrible matchup for any animal dumb enough to rush in . As for why the boa made it, it is recorded to have a win over the ocelot who many consider a favorite in this tournament |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2023 12:24:13 GMT
Evidently they can be 24lbs, for females. They average 35-55lbs but can get small enough to be in this weight range. Now, it might become a little boring if we include it since nothing else will ever win. This is not a good place for a wild predator to be and a superb place for a bulldog to be. Wolverines can also be in this weight class. If the boa has made it here I question why the above haven't. Eh needed a snake and 55 lbs would be a monster boa. Boas vary in size quite a lot accross south america and 25 lbs would be a big female in most areas. Out of the wild animals, the ocelot, monitor, and harpy eagle are definetlely the most dangerous as they can all end a fight quick. Ditto for the boa although they'd be a horrible matchup for any animal dumb enough to rush in . As for why the boa made it, it is recorded to have a win over the ocelot who many consider a favorite in this tournament Some boa specimens have exceeded 100lbs. Sent from my SM-A105FN using Tapatalk |
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Post by ophio on May 16, 2023 7:02:51 GMT
@hardcastle. Thoughts on these matchups.
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Post by Hardcastle on May 16, 2023 9:31:12 GMT
Assuming everybody is 25 pounds (except the eagle as it's more effective at 20 pounds) Harpy eagle Jagdterrier Basenji Ocelot Tasmanian devil Boa Constrictor Honey badger Crocodile Monitor 1. Harpy eagle vs 8. Crocodile monitor 2. Jagdterrier vs 7 honey badger 3. Basenji vs 6. Boa 4. Ocelot vs 5. Tasmanian devil Don't need a poll for this IMO. 1. Harpy eagle palms lizards head 2. Jagd worries badger to death 3. Basenji outmaneuvers and picks apart boa (staffy would have lost ftr) 4. Ocelot too advanced for stupid devil, wraps it up and severs it's vertebra. |
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Post by Bolushi on May 16, 2023 13:34:16 GMT
Assuming everybody is 25 pounds (except the eagle as it's more effective at 20 pounds) Harpy eagle Jagdterrier Basenji Ocelot Tasmanian devil Boa Constrictor Honey badger Crocodile Monitor 1. Harpy eagle vs 8. Crocodile monitor 2. Jagdterrier vs 7 honey badger 3. Basenji vs 6. Boa 4. Ocelot vs 5. Tasmanian devil Don't need a poll for this IMO. 1. Harpy eagle palms lizards head 2. Jagd worries badger to death 3. Basenji outmaneuvers and picks apart boa (staffy would have lost ftr) 4. Ocelot too advanced for stupid devil, wraps it up and severs it's vertebra. Unrelated-ish but do you think a big badass farm cat weighing 15lbs or so could beat a Taz devil? |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2023 14:53:36 GMT
Is there going to be a middleweight tournament? And will the animals be similar? Like would the Boa Constrictor be replaced with a (e.g.) Reticulated Python for instance?
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Post by ophio on May 16, 2023 15:24:06 GMT
Is there going to be a middleweight tournament? And will the animals be similar? Like would the Boa Constrictor be replaced with a (e.g.) Reticulated Python for instance? Sent from my SM-A105FN using Tapatalk That's the plan  well see how this one turns out |
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Post by Hardcastle on May 16, 2023 15:27:33 GMT
1. Harpy eagle palms lizards head 2. Jagd worries badger to death 3. Basenji outmaneuvers and picks apart boa (staffy would have lost ftr) 4. Ocelot too advanced for stupid devil, wraps it up and severs it's vertebra. Unrelated-ish but do you think a big badass farm cat weighing 15lbs or so could beat a Taz devil? Interesting question, but no. The reason tasmanian devils still exist is basically because cats aren't shit. I've seen a lot of evidence that tasmanian devils are too rugged for cats and foxes, but ocelots are a fair amount of extra above that. I consider ocelots a little underrated tbh. Below clouded leopards but not by that much. |
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Post by ophio on May 17, 2023 2:04:09 GMT
1. Harpy eagle palms lizards head 2. Jagd worries badger to death 3. Basenji outmaneuvers and picks apart boa (staffy would have lost ftr) 4. Ocelot too advanced for stupid devil, wraps it up and severs it's vertebra. Unrelated-ish but do you think a big badass farm cat weighing 15lbs or so could beat a Taz devil? Agree on you for 2 3 and 4 but 1 can really go either way. If the harpy eagle gets the head, that's an instant kill. However if it misses, this lizard is known for killing birds. And it's long body gives it more room to swing around. That being said, it also hurts durability |
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well see how this one turns out