Gray Wolf vs Spotted Hyena

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Dec 27, 2022 23:41:14 GMT @ling said:

Dec 27, 2022 23:35:38 GMT Bolushi said:

2 Kangals holding a hyena in place is sort of irrelevant, both dogs had a poor hold. Multiple dogs can prolong things. A little pitbull folded a striped hyena:



Also greyhounds kill brown hyenas in Africa:

The latter 2 hyena species aren't as durable or sturdy as a spotted hyena and are overall poor combatants.
Spotted hyenas are different but still suffer from ''giant inflexible torso syndrome''. They also nip things, they don't seem to do much damage.
The wolf could crush the hyena's muzzle.
The wolf would indeed evade the hyena's attacks. Then it'd chomp on the hyena's face and neck. Not sure what would happen if the hyena bit the wolf, but hyenas haven't demonstrated their ability to do damage quickly. The hyena could win but I find it hard to envision.

A gray wolf would not stand for that bullshit. Look at how close the wild dog can get, it even nipped the hyena's leg and the hyena couldn't do anything about it. A wolf doesn't nip, it bites. Very hard at that. Being slightly less agile than a wild dog is neither here nor there because it's just a hyena. Same game being played by 2 similar enough players.
Also yes, the forum is quite dog heavy because it originates from me, Hardcastle and Lincoln who are all dog people... that'll change soon. Just need some more wild animal guys.

The hyena is still a lot more durable than the wolf.

It's larger and the wolf would struggle to cause detrimental damage to the hyena due to its thick neck.

I also can't be bothered to debate about this since this match-up is so common.

Wolves are as large as a hyena, just lighter due to being much weaker. Thin hide, thin bones. But the wolf's damage output and agility can potentially circumvent that. I am unsure either way.

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Dec 27, 2022 23:46:03 GMT Bolushi said:

Dec 27, 2022 23:41:14 GMT @ling said:

The hyena is still a lot more durable than the wolf.

It's larger and the wolf would struggle to cause detrimental damage to the hyena due to its thick neck.

I also can't be bothered to debate about this since this match-up is so common.

Wolves are as large as a hyena, just lighter due to being much weaker. Thin hide, thin bones. But the wolf's damage output and agility can potentially circumvent that. I am unsure either way.

The hyena has a more devastating bite.

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Dec 27, 2022 23:48:44 GMT @ling said:

Dec 27, 2022 23:46:03 GMT Bolushi said:

Wolves are as large as a hyena, just lighter due to being much weaker. Thin hide, thin bones. But the wolf's damage output and agility can potentially circumvent that. I am unsure either way.

The hyena has a more devastating bite.

There's no video to support that. This hyena took a few maulings to kill this jackal: https://www.reddit.com/r/natureismetal/comments/qh5unz/spotted_hyena_mauls_jackal_in_front_of_its_entire/
Is there anything on hyenas using their supposedly devastating bite on other carnivores?

[Hardcastle]

Hyenas having absolutely terrible movement is a very real problem for them against any canine. AWDs can harass them at will with almost no fear of being caught. A wolf could do the same. Canines have exceptional lateral movement. I basically agree with Ling that if the two become actually engaged in a close quarter melee where they are attached in combat, it's over for the wolf, it's far too weak and flimsy for a spotted hyena. But you still have to acknowledge the disparity in movement and understand a wolf can evade a hyena easily. Realistically the hyena bullies the wolf but the wolf has to be pretty stupid to get caught. These "to the death" fights have no real world application most of the time. If we're talking a hypothetical actual fight where the wolf is dumb and fully commits like a pitbull (btw it's not dumb for a pitbull, because it has the robusticity and fighting nouse to back it up), then yes, it loses.