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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2023 18:23:39 GMT
IMO yes.
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Post by lincoln on Feb 14, 2023 18:35:51 GMT
Either him, Mike Tyson or Roy Jones Jr
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Post by Hardcastle on Feb 14, 2023 21:45:22 GMT
He may have the GOAT story in all of sports. When we start talking about whether he'd actually beat every other HW, I lose confidence somewhat. He struggled so much with Frazier despite towering over him and Frazier otherwise not being SO amazing. I don't know. Eye test I believe he's the best boxer I've ever seen move. His career was incredibly perfectly monumental. But I just don't know if he's really the best, as in would beat everyone. But maybe he would.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2023 21:50:41 GMT
He may have the GOAT story in all of sports. When we start talking about whether he'd actually beat every other HW, I lose confidence somewhat. He struggled so much with Frazier despite towering over him and Frazier otherwise not being SO amazing. I don't know. Eye test I believe he's the best boxer I've ever seen move. His career was incredibly perfectly monumental. But I just don't know if he's really the best, as in would beat everyone. But maybe he would. I agree. He's definitely the GOAT when it comes to how much he left a mark on sports and shit. But in the ring? That's up for debate.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2023 2:19:30 GMT
Muhammed Ali vs Roy Jones Jr. who wins?
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Post by Hardcastle on Feb 16, 2023 5:24:50 GMT
RJJ in his prime (which was the 90s) was actually unbelievable and unbeatable. One of the most perfect boxers and may be the closest contender to Ali for "eye test" as well. The other contender would be Sugar Ray Robinson. That would actually probably be my top 3 "boxers" of all weight divisions. Just talking about the "sweet science" of boxing I'd say they were the greatest maestros of the artform. Floyd Mayweather Jr could arguably make a case but he has a very boring defense-heavy style.
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Post by lincoln on Feb 16, 2023 8:30:24 GMT
RJJ in his prime (which was the 90s) was actually unbelievable and unbeatable. One of the most perfect boxers and may be the closest contender to Ali for "eye test" as well. The other contender would be Sugar Ray Robinson. That would actually probably be my top 3 "boxers" of all weight divisions. Just talking about the "sweet science" of boxing I'd say they were the greatest maestros of the artform. Floyd Mayweather Jr could arguably make a case but he has a very boring defense-heavy style. RJJ was also a beast, he’s also up there for my GOAT Whoever don’t agree, I guess y’all must’ve forgot! not sure how many will get that
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Post by ar7pr on Apr 3, 2023 18:50:19 GMT
Sonny Liston:
A man who grew up as an illegally kept slave on a plantation, A man who was a homeless child who went onto become a juvenile felon just to survive while sleeping on park benches, A man who had no formal education, A man who had to fight and claw his way through over 5,000 men boxing to the death as a teenager just to have a chance to have a second chance at life, A man went through life with devote faith inside of the Catholic religion, A man who dedicated his remaining portion of his life to make a positive example for troubled youths through philanthropy, A man who was employed by the mob as a legbreaker, A man who was once thought of invincible, A man who's life cam crashing down with realization of defeat, A man who turned back to crime with it being his own undoing, A man who was in the end left broken and alone, A man who's life and legacy is largely unknown and forgotten,
Sonny Liston,
"A man"
The greatest boxer of all-time in my opinion
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