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Post by Hardcastle on Feb 9, 2023 22:48:27 GMT
I don't know if I'd call that "fighting". It's tactical warfare I guess at best. Starts with an ambush, and then waiting while the whale bleeds out. If that's fighting then venomous snakes are fighting when they kill prey too. And Komodo dragons beat buffalos in "fights". To me a fight is actually a direct engaged close-quarter struggle with both participants ... well... fighting.
"This isn't a parity fight" is a good argument. I was just pointing out that for me I would favour a crocodile at parity. In this scenario the SW croc is stopped at great white.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2023 22:51:04 GMT
I don't know if I'd call that "fighting". It's tactical warfare I guess at best. Starts with an ambush, and then waiting while the whale bleeds out. If that's fighting then venomous snakes are fighting when they kill prey too. And Komodo dragons beat buffalos in "fights". To me a fight is actually a direct engaged close-quarter struggle with both participants ... well... fighting. "This isn't a parity fight" is a good argument. I was just pointing out that for me I would favour a crocodile at parity. In this scenario the SW croc is stopped at great white. Well how would you define "fighting"? Why do other marine creatures fight any better than sharks? Don't they all just bite eachother and that's kinda it? Also the great white in that image pulled the humpback whale underwater to drown it. I at least think that's impressive for a fish. |
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Post by Hardcastle on Feb 9, 2023 23:08:31 GMT
You're right, the last part is fighting and impressive.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2023 14:08:48 GMT
A gripping controlling bite is simply a superior fighting tool than a specialised damaging bite. In some cases, yes, I agree - but in this case? No. The bite of a great white shark is miles ahead of a saltie. In fact I'd go as far as to say that the great white has the most devastating bite out of any animal living today. Anyways serrated teeth > gripping teeth (in this scenario).  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2023 20:01:45 GMT
I'm not being sarcastic when I say this but I generally believe that a Mako shark could take a Nile crocodile.
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Post by Bolushi on Jun 10, 2023 21:23:59 GMT
I'm not being sarcastic when I say this but I generally believe that a Mako shark could take a Nile crocodile. Mako sharks are the smartest most complex shark in its brain and ability to fight and comprehend things. They can swim around something and pick it apart. A new world shark for sure. This puts it in a good position to lose agaisnt a big nile croc tbh but maybe a big mako could make something happen. Doubt it though. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2023 21:31:47 GMT
I'm not being sarcastic when I say this but I generally believe that a Mako shark could take a Nile crocodile. Mako sharks are the smartest most complex shark in its brain and ability to fight and comprehend things. This is true. One of the largest brain-body size ratios of any shark. Not to mention the strongest recorded bite force of any shark - 13,000N (3,000lbf), same figures as the Nile crocodile. Plus they commonly prey on dolphins. Like it's not even rare it's just a normal thing for large Makos. One even bit off the back of an orca's tail once. Easily the most impressive shark p4p imo. I'm picturing the shark harassing the crocodile to death from below. |
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Post by Hardcastle on Jun 10, 2023 22:46:50 GMT
Can someone do a size comparison? At the moment I'm thinking it's a silly mismatch in favour of the croc.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2023 23:02:07 GMT
Can someone do a size comparison? At the moment I'm thinking it's a silly mismatch in favour of the croc. 6.45m vs 4.45m. A 4m Mako shark reportedly weighed 1,000kg but I can't find the photo of said specimen.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2023 23:07:12 GMT
Can someone do a size comparison? At the moment I'm thinking it's a silly mismatch in favour of the croc. Why do you think it's a mismatch? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2023 18:01:05 GMT
Pretty cool:  |
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Post by Hardcastle on Jun 11, 2023 18:19:35 GMT
Can someone do a size comparison? At the moment I'm thinking it's a silly mismatch in favour of the croc. 6.45m vs 4.45m. A 4m Mako shark reportedly weighed 1,000kg but I can't find the photo of said specimen. Guess that's a reasonable matchup. Still favour the croc due to the inherit advantage of gripping and controlling, but they seem to be pretty "even" animals generally in regards to their "true" size. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2023 18:33:31 GMT
6.45m vs 4.45m. A 4m Mako shark reportedly weighed 1,000kg but I can't find the photo of said specimen. Guess that's a reasonable matchup. Still favour the croc due to the inherit advantage of gripping and controlling, but they seem to be pretty "even" animals generally in regards to their "true" size. The crocodile will literally never catch the shark. |
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Post by Hardcastle on Jun 11, 2023 18:34:14 GMT
Maybe, unless the shark tries to come near the croc.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2023 18:45:28 GMT
Pretty cool: Mako sharks look like smaller great whites. |
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