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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2023 22:26:12 GMT
If you believe that a Bulldog or Pitbull could kill a lion, you are a fucking delusional idiot.  But who said that though? Why do you kind of consistently say jarringly stupid things? Im not. People have genuinely said that a Pitbull could overpower a lion to the point of actual collapsing. Same with the people that believe Rhodesian Ridgebacks actually killed the lion, when it was really more like Plotthounds with Bears. I can post a image/video of all of them if you’d like. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2023 22:27:21 GMT
That's what we've been saying though... A bay dog really plays into the cats hands. Very similar testimony to an 1800s account I posted recently, George P Sanderson talking about "panthers" (leopards) and bears (pressumably sloth) in India and how if bulldogs just rush them and get a good hold they often can't seem to do much about it. Not that they kill these big animals like they would a bobcat, but as a strategy it really overwhelms and neutralises a lot of dangerous wild animals. If you believe that a Bulldog or Pitbull could kill a lion, you are a fucking delusional idiot. Leopard, well that depends on the leopard and the dog. But the overpowering strategy I see doesn’t work sometimes. Snow leopards are surprisingly combatively great against dogs. There are cases of them taking on the feral or free-roaming Tibetan Mastiff packs, which most of these dog packs are just what I call “farmers dogs” that belong to a farmer that doesn’t do anything except pet his dogs and give them water. Otherwise, they fend for themselves in countryside. The overpowering strategy is similar to that of bears though, not of dogs. Bears don’t really have any strategy, and just use their strength and thick fur and claws to overpower large prey. Bulldog OR? Pits are bulldogs and if you think a bulldog couldn't turn a TM into a bloody furry bag of mush you're the idiot. SLs cannot do that face to face BTW. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2023 22:29:43 GMT
If you believe that a Bulldog or Pitbull could kill a lion, you are a fucking delusional idiot. Leopard, well that depends on the leopard and the dog. But the overpowering strategy I see doesn’t work sometimes. Snow leopards are surprisingly combatively great against dogs. There are cases of them taking on the feral or free-roaming Tibetan Mastiff packs, which most of these dog packs are just what I call “farmers dogs” that belong to a farmer that doesn’t do anything except pet his dogs and give them water. Otherwise, they fend for themselves in countryside. The overpowering strategy is similar to that of bears though, not of dogs. Bears don’t really have any strategy, and just use their strength and thick fur and claws to overpower large prey. Bulldog OR? Pits are bulldogs and if you think a bulldog couldn't turn a TM into a bloody furry bag of mush you're the idiot. SLs cannot do that face to face BTW. I agree. Pitbulls are Bulldogs, but im talking other different types of Bulldog, like the American and Renaissance Bulldog. I don’t believe TM can beat a Pitbull, thats utter bullshit. I was trying to demonstrate the snow leopards combative abilities against the TM. |
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Post by Hardcastle on Feb 4, 2023 22:30:47 GMT
But the overpowering strategy I see doesn’t work sometimes. Snow leopards are surprisingly combatively great against dogs. There are cases of them taking on the feral or free-roaming Tibetan Mastiff packs, which most of these dog packs are just what I call “farmers dogs” that belong to a farmer that doesn’t do anything except pet his dogs and give them water. Otherwise, they fend for themselves in countryside. What those tibetan mastiff/snow leopard videos all have in common is dogs standing back and barking, which is precisely what this hunter and the 1800s hunter were describing as how NOT to deal with a cat. That's where dogs put themselves at risk. Standing back bobbing and weaving... gives the cat time to compose it's thoughts and lash out with some kind of damaging (even if not lethal) attack. Time to breathe and think and calculate and then initiate an assault. That's where cat's thrive, as it replicates an ambush scenario to an extent. Blast into them without hesitation and acquire a solid grip early and the cat is just totally out of it's comfort zone and in a world of trouble. That's what hounds don't do, that's what wolves don't do, that's what tibetan mastiffs don't do. It's what most dogs and most animals don't do. But it's what bulldogs and boarhounds DO do. It's "grabbing the bull by the horns" and taking control of the conflict from the outset and it is a remarkably effective strategy for punching above your weight. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2023 22:31:31 GMT
But the overpowering strategy I see doesn’t work sometimes. Snow leopards are surprisingly combatively great against dogs. There are cases of them taking on the feral or free-roaming Tibetan Mastiff packs, which most of these dog packs are just what I call “farmers dogs” that belong to a farmer that doesn’t do anything except pet his dogs and give them water. Otherwise, they fend for themselves in countryside. What those tibetan mastiff/snow leopard videos all have in common is dogs standing back and barking, which is precisely what this hunter and the 1800s hunter were describing as how NOT to deal with a cat. That's where dogs put themselves at risk. Standing back bobbing and weaving... gives the cat time to compose it's thoughts and lash out with some kind of damaging (even if not lethal) attack. Time to breathe and think and calculate and then initiate an assault. That's where cat's thrive, as it replicates an ambush scenario to an extent. Blast into them without hesitation and acquire a solid grip early and the cat is just totally out of it's comfort zone and in a world of trouble. That's what hounds don't do, that's what wolves don't do, that's what tibetan mastiffs don't do. It's what most dogs and most animals don't do. But it's what bulldogs and boarhounds DO do. It's "grabbing the bull by the horns" and taking control of the conflict from the outset and it is a remarkably effective strategy for punching above your weight. Hyenas do it pretty well, they just rush in against leopards and lionesses. Male lions are a bit above their weight class thoguh. But again they have the durability that a wolf wouldn't have |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2023 22:33:00 GMT
Bulldog OR? Pits are bulldogs and if you think a bulldog couldn't turn a TM into a bloody furry bag of mush you're the idiot. SLs cannot do that face to face BTW. I agree. Pitbulls are Bulldogs, but im talking other different types of Bulldog, like the American and Renaissance Bulldog. I don’t believe TM can beat a Pitbull, thats utter bullshit. I was trying to demonstrate the snow leopards combative abilities against the TM. TMs just bark and harass, they aren't interested in any sort of offense which is why they look pathetic. A collie would do better. It is outright annoying seeing 5 dogs stand back from a measly snow leopard. It is not the leopard being good it is the dogs being cowards. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2023 22:35:11 GMT
What those tibetan mastiff/snow leopard videos all have in common is dogs standing back and barking, which is precisely what this hunter and the 1800s hunter were describing as how NOT to deal with a cat. That's where dogs put themselves at risk. Standing back bobbing and weaving... gives the cat time to compose it's thoughts and lash out with some kind of damaging (even if not lethal) attack. Time to breathe and think and calculate and then initiate an assault. That's where cat's thrive, as it replicates an ambush scenario to an extent. Blast into them without hesitation and acquire a solid grip early and the cat is just totally out of it's comfort zone and in a world of trouble. That's what hounds don't do, that's what wolves don't do, that's what tibetan mastiffs don't do. It's what most dogs and most animals don't do. But it's what bulldogs and boarhounds DO do. It's "grabbing the bull by the horns" and taking control of the conflict from the outset and it is a remarkably effective strategy for punching above your weight. Hyenas do it pretty well, they just rush in against leopards and lionesses. Male lions are a bit above their weight class thoguh. But again they have the durability that a wolf wouldn't have Yes but hyenas do not put any offense behind their strategy. While the bulldog wants to kill the target the hyena wants to bully the target. Push comes to shove a hyena's anti leopard strategy would give it the win in a real fight though. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2023 22:35:38 GMT
But the overpowering strategy I see doesn’t work sometimes. Snow leopards are surprisingly combatively great against dogs. There are cases of them taking on the feral or free-roaming Tibetan Mastiff packs, which most of these dog packs are just what I call “farmers dogs” that belong to a farmer that doesn’t do anything except pet his dogs and give them water. Otherwise, they fend for themselves in countryside. What those tibetan mastiff/snow leopard videos all have in common is dogs standing back and barking, which is precisely what this hunter and the 1800s hunter were describing as how NOT to deal with a cat. That's where dogs put themselves at risk. Standing back bobbing and weaving... gives the cat time to compose it's thoughts and lash out with some kind of damaging (even if not lethal) attack. Time to breathe and think and calculate and then initiate an assault. That's where cat's thrive, as it replicates an ambush scenario to an extent. Blast into them without hesitation and acquire a solid grip early and the cat is just totally out of it's comfort zone and in a world of trouble. That's what hounds don't do, that's what wolves don't do, that's what tibetan mastiffs don't do. It's what most dogs and most animals don't do. But it's what bulldogs and boarhounds DO do. It's "grabbing the bull by the horns" and taking control of the conflict from the outset and it is a remarkably effective strategy for punching above your weight. From what i’ve seen; I contradict my previous belief. You are right. Most videos of TM’s with Snow Leopards are them just barking at the Snow Leopard trying to dissuade it from its carcass. I’ve seen TM’s shitty kleptoparasiting a lot. Most of the time the Snow Leopard gives way to dogs and wolves, but sometimes they don’t. With Bulldogs and Boarhounds, they have to attack, ask questions later. So yes. |
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Post by Hardcastle on Feb 4, 2023 22:40:08 GMT
What those tibetan mastiff/snow leopard videos all have in common is dogs standing back and barking, which is precisely what this hunter and the 1800s hunter were describing as how NOT to deal with a cat. That's where dogs put themselves at risk. Standing back bobbing and weaving... gives the cat time to compose it's thoughts and lash out with some kind of damaging (even if not lethal) attack. Time to breathe and think and calculate and then initiate an assault. That's where cat's thrive, as it replicates an ambush scenario to an extent. Blast into them without hesitation and acquire a solid grip early and the cat is just totally out of it's comfort zone and in a world of trouble. That's what hounds don't do, that's what wolves don't do, that's what tibetan mastiffs don't do. It's what most dogs and most animals don't do. But it's what bulldogs and boarhounds DO do. It's "grabbing the bull by the horns" and taking control of the conflict from the outset and it is a remarkably effective strategy for punching above your weight. Hyenas do it pretty well, they just rush in against leopards and lionesses. Male lions are a bit above their weight class thoguh. But again they have the durability that a wolf wouldn't have Yeah... a little different. Because those hyenas have their eye on the carcass more so than the leopard or lioness. Psychologically for the cat it's similar in that it totally throws them off and they flee the altercation, they don't cope with being persecuted and bullied and the hyena is exploiting that psychological weakness to bluff the cat away. But it's not exactly the same as torpedoing straight into the cat and latching onto it with a holding bite and full intent to prevent it from going anywhere and trap it into a close-quarter engagement that they will grind out to the bitter end. Hyenas usually allow the cat to escape, at least in one on one altercations. It is technically a different thing even if in some ways the same weakness of the cat is being exploited. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2023 22:44:12 GMT
Hyenas do it pretty well, they just rush in against leopards and lionesses. Male lions are a bit above their weight class thoguh. But again they have the durability that a wolf wouldn't have Yeah... a little different. Because those hyenas have their eye on the carcass more so than the leopard or lioness. Psychologically for the cat it's similar in that it totally throws them off and they flee the altercation, they don't cope with being persecuted and bullied and the hyena is exploiting that psychological weakness to bluff the cat away. But it's not exactly the same as torpedoing straight into the cat and latching onto it with a holding bite and full intent to prevent it from going anywhere and trap it into a close-quarter engagement that they will grind out to the bitter end. Hyenas usually allow the cat to escape, at least in one on one altercations. It is technically a different thing even if in some ways the same weakness of the cat is being exploited. From what i’ve seen, Spotted Hyenas use numbers to persuade cats. With solitary cat species, they put up more of a fight, due to having to already deal with not having a pride/pack to back it up. Lions, when they are alone may put up a little fight but they typically know that they are outnumbered and cannot fathom to try to beat the Spotted Hyena clan. |
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Post by Hardcastle on Feb 4, 2023 22:47:42 GMT
Single hyenas do bully leopards more often than the other way. Only big male leopards occassionally stand up to them somewhat.
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